Christian "gay Bashing"

[Foreigner]

"Are you kidding? You are actually defending drunk driving as an accident? Wow - the lengths you are willing to go....." - Aspen

-- Of course it wasn't an accident. They got into their cars drunk in order to INTENTIONALLY kill people. Wow, the lenths you are willing to go to try to cover up your "drunk drivers are flaunting their behavior on parade every morning" statement to describe drunks driving home hoping not to be noticed or caught by the cops.

Pssssst.......look up the word "flaunting" and you will see how ridiculous your statement is.

You really aren't very good at this...






"Right....I keep forgetting... your the real victim of homosexual sin...." - Aspen

-- According to you and your previous statements, NO ONE is a victim of homosexual sin.
Should be an interesting conversation for you when you are standing before Jesus...






"Incredible. Blessed are the slave owners, for they will be persecuted by their property.....Blessed are the wife beaters, they will have to endure protest from their spouse..........your understanding of the gospel is dangerous. You cannot be a victim of the natural consequences of your actions." - Aspen

-- This is your response to my pointing out that Christians are being attacked for not backing down on what the Gospel says.
THIS is your reply? You have definitely built your position upon the sand my friend and now you are just embarassing yourself. :lol:






"Your contempt for being told to curtail your harsh and condemning language is making you mad. Deal with it." - Aspen

-- No one here has told me to curtail "harsh or condemning language" except you, a person who himself uses harsh and condemning language.....and then whines about others using it in another thread. Just like you have bemoaned what you call the condescending statement, "Deal with it" in the past but you yourself just used it.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Aspen.






"Clever! Except one again, you refuse to acknowledge that I believe both practices are sinful and I have no problem have a civil discussion about it with rich people or homosexuals." - Aspen

-- Of course you do. You tell rich people how evil they are and you tell homosexuals how evil people are for not sanctioning their lifestyle behaviors.






" I can see why this is more of a problem for you than I first realized because we, two Christians - both agree that homosexuality is a sin can barely talk about the issue." - Aspen

-- And why can we "barely talk" about it?
Because you accuse every single solitary Christian (except yourself of course) who disagrees with homosexual lifestyles of being arrogant, bigoted, narrow and judgemental. An accusation you throw around freely whenever someone won't agree with you.

But why should we expect anything different from a person who would say, "it is bad enough they are going to Hell, at least let them eat, drink, and be merry."

Very Christian of you. Just think if Jesus had said the same thing about sinners. Should be interesting when you try to explain that statement to him.






"Now the really sad part is I can can predict what you are going to say -'the true gospel is offensive'. Ok, so I guess it is your job to go out into the world and offend as many people as possible - sounds like a sad life too me. Jesus was loved by sinners and hated by the religiously proud - yet he never condoned sin. This is how I want to live my life. " - Aspen

-- And now we touch on one of your biggest problems....

You again make the accusation that all Christians do is hunt down homosexuals and yell, "Sinner, burn in hell!" to their faces.

I have had multiple conversations with homosexuals and 95% of them were initiated by homosexuals coming up to me and demanding to know why I think homosexuality is wrong.

I calmly explain, using specific scripture and then pointing out that Jesus loves them very much, and they start yelling, swearing, and making a scene.

Someone makes a demand to know something and when they don't like the answer, they get angry.

Your blanket statement that Christians that don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle and agenda are out to "offend as many people as possible" is dishonest and makes you look small.

Please grow up.






"Jesus was loved by sinners and hated by the religiously proud - yet he never condoned sin. This is how I want to live my life." - Aspen

-- You leave out the fact that Jesus said, "Go and sin no more" to the sinners and spoke more about the dangers of hell than the blessings of heaven. And he did it because it was important and their eternal salvation was at stake.

You OBVIOUSLY are not chosing to live THAT life. Especially when you can say something like, "it is bad enough they are going to Hell, at least let them eat, drink, and be merry."

Let them burn in hell rather than possibly making them upset with the truth, giving them a chance to turn away from sin and spend an eternity in paradise. Veeeeeery Christlike.






"No. Politicians are liars. We know that. We expect it. We vote for them anyway. Yet we condemn homosexuals." - Aspen

-- Who is 'we' White Man lol.

If you or I wanted homosexuals condemned, we would simply not share the Gospel with them.

We would not tell them that Jesus loves them as much as He loves us, died for their sins like He died for ours, and will welcome them into heaven if they turn towards Him.

With your "it is bad enough they are going to Hell, at least let them eat, drink, and be merry" statement it appears that it is YOU that are the one content to condemn homosexuals...for all eternity.

 

[aspen]

I'll leave you to your cake so you can eat it too, Foreigner.

A person who is both piously condescending and intolerant of a specific group of American citizens AND a victim of the feedback he receives from his own intolerance and the intolerance of like-minded people.

 

[marksman]

A person who is both piously condescending and intolerant of a specific group of American citizens AND a victim of the feedback he receives from his own intolerance and the intolerance of like-minded people.

Just curious. Is it all the "oblating" you do that makes you so smug and self righteous?

Yes I know Lord. Please forgive me.

 

[aspen]

Just curious. Is it all the "oblating" you do that makes you so smug and self righteous?

Yes I know Lord. Please forgive me.

Did you want to talk about becoming a Benedictine Oblate? I am more than happy to share information with you about it - the program is quite inclusive - you do not even need to be Catholic.

As far as me being smug and self-righteous - how are you determining this?

 

[marksman]

Did you want to talk about becoming a Benedictine Oblate? I am more than happy to share information with you about it - the program is quite inclusive - you do not even need to be Catholic.

I know this is going to be a waste of time because it is beneath you to answer the question, but I made no mention whatsoever about becoming oblated. I asked if all your oblating has made you smug and self righteous? Care to answer the question.

As far as me being smug and self-righteous - how are you determining this?

Having studied psychology, it doesn't take much to read between the lines.

If you or I wanted homosexuals condemned, we would simply not share the Gospel with them.

Quite correct Foreigner.

 

[aspen]

I know this is going to be a waste of time because it is beneath you to answer the question, but I made no mention whatsoever about becoming oblated. I asked if all your oblating has made you smug and self righteous? Care to answer the question.


Having studied psychology, it doesn't take much to read between the lines.


Quite correct Foreigner.

I figured the question was rhetorical because it is so rude. But if you are serious. No.

Of course, it really is an unanswerable question - it would be like me asking you if your lack of insight into human nature comes from your studies in psychology.

Actually I was asking you to point out where I have been smug and self-righteous. If it is true I need to know it because I certainly do not want to have either of those character flaws.

Your agreement with Foreigner tells me that you plan to continue to preach the gospel to homosexuals in the same manner that you have always done, despite the information presented on the youtube clip at the beginning of this thread about traditional methods no longer being effective and fourteen pages of dialog suggesting that homosexuals have already heard the message and have rejected it based on the arrogance and narrow-minded messengers who have presented it. This suggests that you already believe you are right and all attempts to inform you otherwise is an attack on your understanding of the gospel......you have made it clear that the presentation of the gospel has nothing to do with how a person may receive it and that sharing truth = love, despite 1 Corinthian 13 explicitly contradiction of this idea.

So, considered yourselves informed of the information, go ahead and reject it, and move on. I am not sure why you guys are putting in so much effort to mis-characterize those of us who agree that homosexuality is a sin and approach the issue differently.

 

[marksman]

I figured the question was rhetorical because it is so rude. But if you are serious. No.

Wrong as usual

Of course, it really is an unanswerable question - it would be like me asking you if your lack of insight into human nature comes from your studies in psychology.

A very smug and self righteous response.

Actually I was asking you to point out where I have been smug and self-righteous. If it is true I need to know it because I certainly do not want to have either of those character flaws.

Of course you are joking.

Your agreement with Foreigner tells me that you plan to continue to preach the gospel to homosexuals in the same manner that you have always done,

Please tell me which way I have always preached the gospel to homosexuals.

despite the information presented on the youtube clip at the beginning of this thread about traditional methods no longer being effective

How do you preach the gospel to homosexuals?

This suggests that you already believe you are right and all attempts to inform you otherwise is an attack on your understanding of the gospel......you have made it clear that the presentation of the gospel has nothing to do with how a person may receive it and that sharing truth = love, despite 1 Corinthian 13 explicitly contradiction of this idea.

A classic comment from someone who is smug and arrogant.

So, considered yourselves informed of the information, go ahead and reject it, and move on. I am not sure why you guys are putting in so much effort to mis-characterize those of us who agree that homosexuality is a sin and approach the issue differently.

There is only one way to sum up this comment. Smug and arrogant.

 

[aspen]

Wrong as usual


A very smug and self righteous response.


Of course you are joking.


Please tell me which way I have always preached the gospel to homosexuals.


How do you preach the gospel to homosexuals?


A classic comment from someone who is smug and arrogant.


There is only one way to sum up this comment. Smug and arrogant.

I guess we will have to leave it up to the readers to decide who is arrogant and who is not. In the meantime, I will continue to speak up for marginalized groups

blessings

 

[mjrhealth]

I wonder how Jesus would handle it if a bunch of Pharisees dragged out a homosexual that was caught in the act of being gay and said that it was commanded in that Law that He should be stoned or something? Would He say you who are without sin be the first to cast a stone and then tell the homosexual that He didn't condemn them either as their accusers walked away? Or would Jesus be like, "Gays are different... kill him!!!"

Good on ya robbie, yes there would be a lot of people posting on this topic standing with the pharisees with boulders in there hands ready to kill. Its a pity they dont teach love in church,

in His Love

 

[Duckybill]

Siding with the NT is not bashing anyone. It clearly condemns homosexuals, etc. "The unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God".

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
[sup]9 [/sup]Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [sup]10 [/sup]nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[HammerStone]

I struggle with the best approach to this issue. I've never turned anyone away or treated them any different for declaring their homosexuality.

However, I have to consider I Corinthians 5 when this subject is discussed. I read it last night in my Bible study and immediately thought about this forum topic. Here we have a member of the Corinthian church committing an arguably "less egregious" sin (sleeping with his step mother) yet it was one even the pagans of the time thought sinful. Paul essentially said throw the bum out and hopefully it will save him in eternity.

(This clearly is speaking to someone who is a believer and continues to flaunt a sin...)

Is maybe there a middle ground where we are called to witness to the person yet not condone what they do? I've heard all the arguments (Leviticus was only for the Levitical priesthood, etc. and that just wasn't what Paul was talking about in the NT, etc.) but the Bible is pretty clear about homosexuality. (So much so, that its labeled as hate speech in some areas.)

Christ did say go and sin no more. We all know this doesn't mean we'll be sinless, but at the same time, he never stated "Go and keep on doing what you're doing."

Is there a fine line in between love and condoning sin regardless of it being alcoholism, homosexuality, racism, etc? I think so.

 

[Foreigner]

I'll leave you to your cake so you can eat it too, Foreigner.

A person who is both piously condescending and intolerant of a specific group of American citizens AND a victim of the feedback he receives from his own intolerance and the intolerance of like-minded people.

--Oh, so close.


I am actually intolerant of sin, not of a person or group.

If a person or people practicing a specific sin approach me (as is almost always the case) and:

- demands to know why I think their lifestyle is sinful.
- don't like me using scripture to show why their lifestyle is not approved by God.
- don't like to hear that Jesus wants them to turn away from that lifestyle.
- Jesus loves them as much as He loves me, but can't welcome them into heaven unless they change.
- become furious and start swearing and calling me names because I won't sanction what God calls a sin.

...that is hardly intolerance on my part.


Glad I could clear that up for you.

 

[Foreigner]

According to Aspen, Chicago's Cardinal George is JUST as intolerant:


Cardinal George on gay marriage

BOSTON—The Catholic spiritual leader of Chicago visited Boston College recently, where a doctoral student pressed Cardinal Francis George about the Church's recent opposition to civil-unions legislation recently passed by the Illinois General Assembly.



George told student John Falcone his "argument was not with Mother Church but with Mother Nature," adding that anyone who advocates same-sex marriage or its equivalent "has lost touch with the common understanding of the human race."

"No one has the right to change marriage," George went on to say, neither "the Church" nor "the state."

While it is one thing "creating laws so that people don't feel persecuted," the cardinal explained, "don't create a law that says apples are oranges." For a lawmaker to do so, George added, he "betrays his vocation to pass good law," especially problematic for a "Catholic lawmaker."

Like many Catholic families with LGBT family members, even his own, George acknowledged his oldest nephew is gay and a "fine man."

The cardinal archbishop came to Boston College at the invitation of the university's School of Theology and Ministry as well as the Church in the 21st Century Center. The school and the center co-sponsored George's lecture Dec. 7. His talk drew upon themes from his recently published book, The Difference God Makes: A Catholic Vision of Faith, Communion, and Culture.

The Church in the 21st Century Center serves as "a catalyst and resource and renewal" for the U.S. Catholic Church. Originally established in 2002 as a two-year initiative at Boston College in the wake of the clerical sex-abuse scandal, the center is now permanent, with a mission to explore "neuralgic issues" facing the Church today.

George spoke for 35 minutes and then took several questions from the audience of more than 125 people. Tape recording was not permitted because, he said, "When I give lecture as a bishop, snippets are put together and taken out of context," becoming "an exercise of manipulation, a game of gotcha."

Falcone and another Boston College graduate student, Ryan Nocito, both wore rainbow sashes, widely regarded as visible indicators of solidarity with LGBT rights and full participation in the Catholic Church. Other students wore rainbow armbands and ribbons.

Falcone said that he attended the lecture after reading a Facebook posting about George's lobbying against civil unions in Illinois. "I was upset about that," Falcone said. "People should not be able to say things with impunity. I want to remind them that they are causing trouble, and they cannot get away with it."

Falcone said that he wrote to the dean of the School of Theology and Ministry ahead of time, informing officials that he would be at the lecture. George appeared not to be taken by surprise with the question.

"What I heard in his response," Falcone said, "is that most important aspect the Church's lobbying against same-sex unions is that marriage is between a man and woman, and homosexuality is unnatural."

George's talk focused on a theme of "Catholic communion in our time and the future." The Church teaches that the human "sense of self is essentially related," he said. "We are born related and spend a lifetime growing into those relationships."

At the same time, the Catholic Church holds up universal truth claims based on faith, George argues in his book.

But contemporary culture privileges individual rights, George said. Downplaying the communal, American culture encourages a self-understanding "defined by personal choices" he said.

At the same time, secular culture is suspicious of faith-based claims about universal truth. "The postmodern mind," George argues in his book, "deconstructs traditional truths."

Nonetheless, George encourages dialogue, or conversation, between faith and culture. But if the Church bumps up against cultural norms it cannot accept, then "We have to change the culture," he said.

A primary vehicle for cultural change, George suggested, is the legal system. In America, there is a near "religious veneration for the Constitution" and the law, he explained. "The law is an arbitrator of what is right or wrong. The law teaches us the rules of the game."

Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of Dignity USA, an organization of gay and lesbian Catholics, attended the lecture. "It crystallized for me very clearly in a way that I hadn't heard before so compellingly, why opposition to same-sex marriage has become such a priority for the bishops and their focus on laws as the only arbitrator of morality in the country," she said.

Duddy-Burke spoke with George briefly after the lecture and said she would write the cardinal to see if he would meet with her for conversation.

Chris Pett, president of the Chicago chapter of Dignity, said he was encouraged by the cardinal's openness to dialogue. "He can be very pastoral, he can listen and be respectful," said Pett who has met with George twice over years but was not in Boston for the lecture.

Still, for Pett, there is a disconnect. "We have a body of knowledge," he said. "We know more about human sexuality than we did 100 years ago. And the Church doesn't acknowledge any of that. They keep coming back to Adam and Eve."

There is yet another disconnection for the Church. As The New York Times reported Dec. 15, the Catholic Church has relented in France, citing the National Confederation of Catholic Family Associations, which now says civil unions do not pose "a real threat" to marriage and the family.

A larger issue also remains. "The debate within the church is whether to view innate attraction to the same sex as a deformity of human nature or as an alternative form of human sexual nature," said Lisa Sowle Cahill, a professor of Christian ethics at Boston College, quoted in the Times Dec. 17. Chuck Colbert holds a master of divinity ( 2002 ) and licentiate degree ( 2005 ) from the Weston Jesuit School of Theology, now a part of the Boston College School of Ministry and Theology. He is a Jew by choice ( 2004 ) in the Reform movement.

 

[aspen]

--Oh, so close.


I am actually intolerant of sin, not of a person or group.

If a person or people practicing a specific sin approach me (as is almost always the case) and:

- demands to know why I think their lifestyle is sinful.
- don't like me using scripture to show why their lifestyle is not approved by God.
- don't like to hear that Jesus wants them to turn away from that lifestyle.
- Jesus loves them as much as He loves me, but can't welcome them into heaven unless they change.
- become furious and start swearing and calling me names because I won't sanction what God calls a sin.

...that is hardly intolerance on my part.


Glad I could clear that up for you.

Once again, I have lived a good deal of my life in cities with large populations of homosexuals and I currently have 4 homosexual friends who know I am Catholic - they have never asked my why I believe homosexuality is a sin and two of them went to Midnight Mass with me this last Christmas.


All I can say is - if you are going to take a hardline with homosexuals, at least take responsibility for the fallout. I think it is sad that you believe you are entitled to provided commentary on people's lives and than cry about being persecuted for doing so.

 

[marksman]

I guess we will have to leave it up to the readers to decide who is arrogant and who is not. In the meantime, I will continue to speak up for marginalized groups blessings

Please tell me which way I have always preached the gospel to homosexuals.

As usual. No answer to the question.

How do you preach the gospel to homosexuals?

As usual no answer to the question

 

[aspen]

As usual. No answer to the question.


As usual no answer to the question

I am still waiting for you to answer my question

[font="tahoma][size="2"]"As far as me being smug and self-righteous - how are you determining this?[/size][/font]"

Reading between the lines is not an answer; nor is pointing out posts that you believe are smug - you need to tell me how you determine them to be smug.

 

[Duckybill]

What I find interesting is that so many keep saying Christians are bashing sinners when it is usually not true. They would also accuse the writers of the Bible of being bashers. Anyone who believes the Bible will be accused of bashing. Talking about sin really upsets a lot of folks, especially the homosexual sin for some reason and they will bash Christians for doing so. They have trouble seeing the log in their own eye.

 

[timf]

What I find interesting is that so many keep saying Christians are bashing sinners when it is usually not true. They would also accuse the writers of the Bible of being bashers. Anyone who believes the Bible will be accused of bashing. Talking about sin really upsets a lot of folks, especially the homosexual sin for some reason and they will bash Christians for doing so. They have trouble seeing the log in their own eye.

I heard a priest once mention that a friend of his had quit the priesthood to join the gay scene in California in the 70s. Years later he saw his friend again who was then dying of AIDS. His friend told him that he was grateful that God had given him the gift of repentance.

In Romans we are told that people who worship the creature (I suppose this also includes man) more than the Creator are punished by God by being given a reprobate mind. One of the manifestations of this mind is homosexuality. It is understandable then that many people feel they are born that way.

While I can appreciate the desire to help someone come to a knowledge of the truth, in a society so rapidly repudiating not just Christ but even our Christian heritage, we should expect a proportional increase in reprobate minds. However, after the truth is presented, one should be careful to avoid being sucked into unproductive "strife."

2 Timothy 2:23-26 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

From my reading in this thread, I have observed people being sucked into time wasting and even frustration generating disputes that remind me of the "tar baby" story. It seems to me that from a strategic perspective it would be an advantage to the enemy to have Christians become tied up in useless arguments rather than have them in prayer, seeking to become more like Jesus, or ministering to others.

It should not be surprising that in a society where public education has been instrumental in replacing the religion of Christianity with the religion of secularism that we would find homosexuality as a growth industry. We now observe their progress as they and their fellow travelers in the ministry of propaganda (media) attempt to convince a nation of lemmings that homosexuality is not only normal, but should be advocated.

The Bible doesn't use the word "woe" too often. When it does, we should understand how serious are the consequences.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

I would suggest to those who find themselves ensnared in traps of the enemy that after the truth is presented, if it is not well received, that they shake off the dust from their feet and move on.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[aspen]

What I find interesting is that so many keep saying Christians are bashing sinners when it is usually not true. They would also accuse the writers of the Bible of being bashers. Anyone who believes the Bible will be accused of bashing. Talking about sin really upsets a lot of folks, especially the homosexual sin for some reason and they will bash Christians for doing so. They have trouble seeing the log in their own eye.

Here is what I got from your post:

1. Christians are often unjustly accused of bashing sinners
2. Christians are simply following the Bible
3. Talking about sin, especially homosexuality upsets people
4. People bash Christians because they are upset and they fail to see their own sin

I have no problem calling homosexuality a sin. I have no problem calling myself a sinner. Indeed, the very fact that I am a sinner causes me to put myself in the place of other sinners, ignites empathy within me for them, causes me to love them on a personal level, and therefore brings me to action - advocating for them as people who have a sin problem, rather than a sinner who needs to be straighten out.

The main reason we are allowed to recognize personal sin in our neighbor is to teach us perspective taking skills / empathy / love / forgiveness for our neighbors. Another reason is to help us recognize similar sin in ourselves - I believe we tend to be extra hard on homosexuals because we either do not recognize the sin in ourselves or we are terrified that we might be gay and will do anything to stamp it out.

So if someone's personal sin is not promoting empathy and self reflection, you are missing the point.

As far as Christians being bashed - it comes with the territory - you better tough in up and get used to it.

I heard a priest once mention that a friend of his had quit the priesthood to join the gay scene in California in the 70s. Years later he saw his friend again who was then dying of AIDS. His friend told him that he was grateful that God had given him the gift of repentance.

In Romans we are told that people who worship the creature (I suppose this also includes man) more than the Creator are punished by God by being given a reprobate mind. One of the manifestations of this mind is homosexuality. It is understandable then that many people feel they are born that way.

While I can appreciate the desire to help someone come to a knowledge of the truth, in a society so rapidly repudiating not just Christ but even our Christian heritage, we should expect a proportional increase in reprobate minds. However, after the truth is presented, one should be careful to avoid being sucked into unproductive "strife."

2 Timothy 2:23-26 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

From my reading in this thread, I have observed people being sucked into time wasting and even frustration generating disputes that remind me of the "tar baby" story. It seems to me that from a strategic perspective it would be an advantage to the enemy to have Christians become tied up in useless arguments rather than have them in prayer, seeking to become more like Jesus, or ministering to others.

It should not be surprising that in a society where public education has been instrumental in replacing the religion of Christianity with the religion of secularism that we would find homosexuality as a growth industry. We now observe their progress as they and their fellow travelers in the ministry of propaganda (media) attempt to convince a nation of lemmings that homosexuality is not only normal, but should be advocated.

The Bible doesn't use the word "woe" too often. When it does, we should understand how serious are the consequences.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

I would suggest to those who find themselves ensnared in traps of the enemy that after the truth is presented, if it is not well received, that they shake off the dust from their feet and move on.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I have not seen one Christian involved in this thread who believes that homosexuality is not a sin. I have seen several people who are incorrectly claiming that advocating for people who are gay is the same as agreeing with their behavior.

 

[Duckybill]

As far as Christians being bashed - it comes with the territory - you better tough in up and get used to it.

I am used to it. It works both ways.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
[sup]9 [/sup]Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, [sup]10 [/sup]nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.