Drunk drivers flaunt their behavior on parade every morning at 2 PM, all across the country and people die because of it." - Aspen
-- Really? Drunk drivers drive around honking, calling attention to themselves and their behavior, demanding that people accept them for driving drunk and calling people "haters" "judgemental" "vile" etc. etc. etc. because people don't accept the drunk driving lifestyle?
Oh please LOL
No.......they just kill people - Aspen
-- So, accidentally killing people while drunk driving is "flaunting your behavior on parade every morning?" Is English really that big a challenge for you?
"Really? Did Jesus point out the same sin, to the same people, over and over again? It is interesting that Jesus was quite popular with the sinners of His day and quite unpopular with the religiously haughty. People who run around pointing out their disapproval of personal sinner in marginalized groups are not normally endeared to them. " - Aspen
-- Jesus didn't have the same people coming up to him over and over again telling Him he was "wrong" "hateful" "divisive" "evil" etc. etc. etc. because when asked He let it be know that something was a sin. He did however tell people in every single place that he visited that their eternal salvation rested on them turning away from sin.
To say that Christians who will not say that the gay sexual lifestyle is okay are being "religiously haughty" is comical at best.
You continue to deny the fact that the Christians are the ones being attacked. They are asked their opinion and why they feel that way - give the answer, supported by scripture - and are told that they the evil ones causing the spread of hate and division. I guess that is because you are one of the people doing the attacking.
You being an apologist for the behavior of those who do not want to admit they are sinners or change their ways suits you. It really does.
"There is nothing inflammatory about this statement. I have certainly thanked God that I do not have the terrible burden of dealing with being a homosexual and all the "breaking news" from His followers about how detestable I am in His sight. It is truly a blessing not to have to be tortured in this way." - Aspen
-- So there is "nothng inflammatory about saying someone is "TOO BUSY thanking God for not being homosexual..." Uh huh.
"Has nothing to do with offending homosexuals - and yes they do have their rights - one of those rights is the pursuit of happiness." - Aspen
-- But you seem to think that just because it is what would make them happy, it should automatically be made the law of the land and people should never speak negatively of it, even if it goes against scriptures and the person is asked point blank. Your position needs work.
"I have no illusion that I am in the place of God and called to judge my neighbor as myself. " - Aspen
-- But if your brother who is sinning demands to know why you think it is a sin, you are responsible to tell him why. If not, you will have to answer for that later.
"It is interesting that Jesus never condemned homosexuality - yet He did condemn religious arrogance. Makes you think, I hope." - Aspen
-- Jesus also never condemned selling your children into slavery or forcing your wife into prostitution.
Your opinion is the same tired 'explanation' used by churches that allow openly gay non-celibate homosexuals into their clergy - if Jesus didn't specifically speak about something being wrong then how could it possibly not be accepted.
As dangerous as it is dishonest. Makes you think, I hope.
"Who needs a parade when you can get million dollar bonuses after sending the American economy into the deepest financial pit since the depression?" - Aspen
-- You make a poor argument LOL. You will notice that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Americans - yourself included - are saying outloud, in public, and on public forums that those practices are wrong and they are openly criticizing those that support it. So according to your practices, who are you to criticize when Christians point out that sin is sin?
"Yet we glorify adultery in the media everyday. Millions of church going people, proclaiming to be Christians are living together without being married and I haven't heard a peep about it from you or anyone else on this board." - Aspen
-- The reason you "haven't heard a peep about it" is because no one here has started a thread claiming that a Christian committing adultery is not sinning or that no one has a right to question them or tell them the lifestyle is wrong. Simple stuff, huh?
Feel free to start one, though. I am definitely willing to bet you will get the same lack of support for that idea you get for this topic.
"Yet, our country is embroiled in two wars and showcases violence on TV everyday" - Aspen
-- Please tell me what that has to do with parents being told they have no say as to what is taught to their children in school or what can be stocked in a school's library?
People can and do speak out publically against the two wars and they are celebrated for exercising their rights.
Parents can control what and how much TV their children watch. They are told point blank they have little control over what their children will be taught in school.
You have made a very poor comparison, mi amigo.
"Do you make it a practice to ignore our political system?" - Aspen
-- No, but apparently you do. Americans have the right to vote on what they see fit and support candidates who share their values.
But if those views go against gay marraige, etc. that political system is suddenly criticized and those who use it are "haters" and "dividers."
It is disappointing that you want it both ways.
"Um - yes they do. They have even formed a group to try to make it more accepted in our society." - Aspen
-- And according to your standards, if we oppose what NAMBLA wants we are intruding on their rights - God made them that way and since they had no choice they have every right to pursue happiness via that avenue and we have no right to speak out against them, etc. etc. etc. I don't think so.
"And as we all know, every murderer in prison wants you to believe they are innocent." - Aspen
-- Just as every gay person in America wants you to believe that there is nothing wrong with their lifestyle, God would not condemn them, and those that are claiming it is a sin are the true villains. Honestly, are arguments like this what you are reduced to?
"I do understand your need to justify your intolerance; " - Aspen
-- When a homosexual or a homosexual rights supporter approaches me demanding to know why Christians won't sanction the gay lifestyle and gay sexual activity and I show them using scripture that it is GOD who opposes it.....I am "justifying my intolerance."
Riiiiiiiiiiiight. :lol: