CharismaticLady
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God isn't asking you to, you're hearing from satan.
So like the Pharisees you are calling the tests of God from satan? Have you ever heard of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? Be careful.
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God isn't asking you to, you're hearing from satan.
So like the Pharisees you are calling the tests of God from satan?
You are calling the works of satan Godly. I rebuke you in Jesus name.
Christ came in nationally to the Jews first. So it is no shock they were the main ones at Pentecost.How do you interpret 1 Corinthians 14:2. It doesn't mesh with your personal theory.
Also biblically, we see in Acts 2 that the "devout" Jews are the only ones who received the supernatural interpretation. They already belonged to God. The mockers were probably Roman Gentiles, and the Spirit wasn't for them...yet.
You are calling God satan, I'm not. Shame on you.
Judiastic Jews
I dont take that shame and I cast it back on you.
the devout Jews were the first Christians. The Pharisees and Sadducees were the Judiastic clinging to Mosaic law and rejecting Jesus.Hi CI
What do you believe is the difference in zeal between a "Judiastic" Jew and a "devout" Jew at that time? Neither believed in Christ at that time.
"Four Square" Elim! My father was an Elim pastor.I used to go to an Assembly of God church here where I moved to, because there wasn't a Foursquare Gospel in my town. I was from California where I attended The Church On The Way since the 70's. I miss how the Spirit moved there every time the doors were open. Here at the AOG I missed the Spirit. I also noticed some false doctrine regarding sin being preached, so I had to leave.
I believe we must be baptized with the Spirit in order to be born again. And I believe those who believe in Jesus will receive all the authorities of Mark 16:16-18. But I believe the evidence of having been baptized in the Spirit is sinlessness. 1 John 3:9, not the operation of any gift. We have those of Mark 16 whether we know it or not. So us operating them is NOT the evidence. Being free from sin is the evidence.
Speaking in tongues is only one of the gifts and the least imo. Interpretation is another. There are more important gifts that need to be sought. The acceptance of Christ as Saviour and His indwelling in our heart and life is the first step in our Christian life and growth. Some AOG churches have unfortunately been led astray by the false Toronto blessing. I believe this is the work of the imposter.I saw the following post elsewhere.
Any comments?
Speaking in tongues is not necessary for salvation. A simple childlike faith is all that is required for salvation. However speaking in tongues followed by interpretation is evidence the person has been redeemed.Some Pentecostals believe that speaking in tongues is a condition for salvation..
I disagree.
The Toronto blessing where people bark like dogs and fall on the floor reminds me of demon possession. In my opinion it is of the devil.So how come on the day of pentecost some COULD understand the language in their own tongue
and yet many could not understand anything and thought they were babbling drunk .
Tongues is real and it is a heavenly language indeed .
Though do be on guard , i have seen many who claim it , but get up and bark like dogs and walk around on leashes
and play the clown . YEAH that AINT THE SPIRIT at work at all . That is something entirely different . ANOTHER SPIRIT AT WORK .
And not a good one either .
Speaking in tongues is only one of the gifts and the least imo. Interpretation is another. There are more important gifts that need to be sought. The acceptance of Christ as Saviour and His indwelling in our heart and life is the first step in our Christian life and growth. Some AOG churches have unfortunately been led astray by the false Toronto blessing. I believe this is the work of the imposter.
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This is absolutely beautiful...My record is reliable to me. Each and every morning in my prayer time with God as I get involved in my talks with Him, I always lapse into the prayer language which He gave me for that purpose many years ago. Unreliable? For me it is reliable.
My tongues spoken to God daily for a great many years [first time in 1976] now are not intelligible to Him. But... that is as it should be as they are to communicate with Him.
When a natural baby begins to make noises with his mouth it is babble which has no meaning and so no one understands. As the child grows some of the babble begins to have meaning for him and for a select few very close ones, like the ones he calls out to with formed baby words: ma ma, da da, which in time become mama and daddy. A baby whose growth is stunted may never move beyond babble to a language in which he is able to intelligently converse with his parents.
Similarly when a baby Christian first speaks in a "new tongue [language]" it may be no more than unintelligible babble. Some new believers get lazy or are told they need do nothing else and they do not. They do not continue to use their new language practicing it by talking with God... and babble it remains. Too many baby Christians sitting in pews regularly who have never grown up even though they have been around for many years. Babies all of their lives!
My wife received a different set of gifts from God. She receives messages in unknown tongues and she interprets messages given in unknown tongues. Unlike me, my wife speaks no other human languages but English and a special unknown language God has given her. She received her gift in the year I did, 1976. Unreliable? I would not say so. Does every part of the Body of Christ know everything about all the other parts working in the functions given to them by God? There is only one Head of the Body of Christ and that is not you nor me, but Jesus!
"And he is the head of the body, the church..." Col 1:18
Paul is describing his contribution to church meetings. No problem there.
Unreliable? I would not say so. Does every part of the Body of Christ know everything about all the other parts working in the functions given to them by God? There is only one Head of the Body of Christ and that is not you nor me, but Jesus!
the devout Jews were the first Christians. The Pharisees and Sadducees were the Judiastic clinging to Mosaic law and rejecting Jesus.
I had to look up what Elim Pentecostals believed, and yep, that's Foursquare. Do you believe as your father did?"Four Square" Elim! My father was an Elim pastor.
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The Bible is very clear, at the beginning of the church some who came to Christ in faith were baptized in water, some spoke in tongues but all receive the Holy Spirit. That is called being born again.
Baptism by water is a sign of baptism in the Holy Spirit, being born again. Tongues are given at need. What Pentecostalism and its branches teach is not to be found in the Bible.
Yes.I had to look up what Elim Pentecostals believed, and yep, that's Foursquare. Do you believe as your father did?