Was Noah's flood global?

Peterlag said:

"The one thing we know for sure from geology is that a global flood never happened," said David Montgomery, a professor of geomorphology at the University of Washington in Seattle and author of "The Rocks Don't Lie: A Geologist Investigates Noah's Flood" (W. W. Norton & Company, 2012). "If you look at it as literally a global flood that covered the world's highest mountains, I'm sorry, there's just not enough water on Earth to do that."

If the "heavens" opened and all of the water in the atmosphere came down at once as rain, the planet would be submerged — but only to a depth of about 1 inch (2.5 centimeters), according to the U.S. Geological Survey. That's not enough water to justify a canoe, let alone a massive ark.

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WEATHER NEWS​

Why Are There Fish Fossils High Up In The Himalayas?​

By Mishana Khot​

29 June, 2018​

How Did Seashells Get On Top Of Mount Everest?​

Back when a huge fossilized whale was found on a California mountaintop (1899)​

Fossilized whale found in Monterey County, California​

NewYorkTimes​

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA​

• March 12, 1987

The Fossils On Katahdin In Maine That Still Spark Debate With Geologists To This Day​

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Reuters​

Fossils of giant marine reptiles found high in the Swiss Alps​

Truth7t7 said:

I don't care what man states (David Montgomery)or the US Geological survey

God's words before your eyes state the mountains were covered by 15 cubits, it states every living substance was destroyed on the earth, read it again, will you call the words of God below a lie?

Genesis 7:4 & 19-24KJV
4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

(Noah's Global Flood)

Genesis 7:20KJV
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

WEATHER NEWS​

Why Are There Fish Fossils High Up In The Himalayas?​

By Mishana Khot​

29 June, 2018​

Representative image (skeeze/Pixabay)

The mighty Himalayas, also known as ‘The Roof of the World’, rise up to an incredible height, disappearing into the clouds on some days. Some of the world’s highest peaks are in the Himalayas, including Mount Everest, which at 29,029 feet is the highest mountain in the world. At these altitudes, the air is thin, and the temperatures are extreme. The land is arid and brown, and it looks like it’s been this way since the beginning of time. These mighty mountains are hundreds of miles away from the closest sea. So how is it possible that marine fossils have been found in multiple locations in the Himalayas?

How Did Seashells Get On Top Of Mount Everest?​

March 29, 2023 by Allen Watkins

Some of the most unlikely places on Earth are home to seashells. Mount Everest, the tallest mountain in the world, is one of them. But how did they get there?

The discovery of fossils of ancient underwater creatures with shells at the summit of Mount Everest provides evidence that the mountain was once under an ocean. The fossils, including those of crinoids, are embedded in limestone at the summit of Everest. Crinoids are ancient underwater animals with tentacles and cone-shaped shells. The discovery of their fossils at the summit of Everest provides evidence that the mountain was once under an ocean.

Back when a huge fossilized whale was found on a California mountaintop (1899)​

May 21, 2019

Fossilized whale found in Monterey County, California​

A fossil whale’s head, the remains of oysters and other things of the sea have just been unearthed in Monterey County, at a place 2300 feet above the sea level and eighteen miles inland from the present coastline.

NewYorkTimes​

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA​

By Malcolm W. Browne

• March 12, 1987

The Fossils On Katahdin In Maine That Still Spark Debate With Geologists To This Day​

By Chris Dodge|Published August 08, 2022

Way up the mountain where the trees start to thin out fossils can be found.
Not your typical dinosaur bones but sea life. Muscles, coral, and sea shells have been found pressed hard into the rock.

Questions arise with this interesting find. How did sea life get fossilized way up high on Mount Katahdin?

The Geology of Baxter State Park and Mount Katahdin
It’s an interesting question that beckons us to examine it closer. Speculation has been presented that Katahdin was once a volcano or the effects of Tectonioc Plates shifting. Most scientists will agree that much of Maine’s beautiful landscape was shaped by massive glacier runoff. What or how did that happen is a spark of debate.

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Reuters​

Fossils of giant marine reptiles found high in the Swiss Alps​

Will Dunham
April 28, 2022

(Reuters) - Fossils from some of the largest creatures ever to swim Earth's oceans - whale-sized marine reptiles called ichthyosaurs - have been found in a counterintuitive place: atop three mountains in the Swiss Alps up to 8,990 feet (2,740 meters) above sea level.

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Peterlag said:

Fossils found on mountain tops could be from a number of different floods or when the earth was first formed and covered with water. Probably with enough rain and a little push from God the Mediterranean sea probably flooded the area which was known at that time to be the whole man occupied earth. It's like I said before, the word "all" does not have to mean all the people spread out all over the globe. All could just mean all the people that were in that part of the earth.

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TonyChanYT said:

Right. Are you God?

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Truth7t7 said:

I disagree, I have clearly shown you otherwise in my opinion

"Probably" is a word you use loosely in ignorance

"Probably" there was a global flood, and swimming fish made it to the top of Mount everest and were deposited there, just as was seen in the Andes, Switzerland, Maine, and California as you were shown in your denial of the facts of a "Global Flood"

You deny God's very clear words that have been presented multiple times

Let God be true and every man a liar

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TonyChanYT said:

Please focus if you are able. This is the 2nd time I ask: Are you God?

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Peterlag said:

What would be the profit to flood the whole earth if humans were only in 1 section of the earth? And where would all that water go after the flood? Would it not take a million years to go down? How do you get that much water out of it raining for a little over 5 weeks. It's not ignorance I have but common sense.

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Truthnightmare said:

I can see why you believe the flood was worldwide, however, taking all into account it was probably local.

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TonyChanYT said:

Can you quote my words where I have made such a suggestion? Try not to jump to a kangaroo conclusion in your next reply as you have done in your current one. Try not to conflate a question with a suggestion. It is the wrong way to biblical hermeneutics.

Are you Elon Musk?

Control your ego if you can help it. In case you jump into another kangaroo conclusion, let me make it clear: I am not suggesting you are.

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WEATHER NEWS​

Why Are There Fish Fossils High Up In The Himalayas?​

By Mishana Khot​

29 June, 2018​

How Did Seashells Get On Top Of Mount Everest?​

Back when a huge fossilized whale was found on a California mountaintop (1899)​

Fossilized whale found in Monterey County, California​

NewYorkTimes​

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA​

• March 12, 1987

The Fossils On Katahdin In Maine That Still Spark Debate With Geologists To This Day​

​

Reuters​

Fossils of giant marine reptiles found high in the Swiss Alps​

Mosheli said:

If the Flood was only one section of the earth then how come God didn't just command Noah to move to another section instead of building a boat. And what point would be the rainbow promise never to flood the whole earth again if it was only one section (since it would mean God lied since there have been regional/local floods since then)?

As to where all the waters went note these facts:
The world’s surface is 7/10ths water versus 3/10ths land.
The average depth of the ocean 12451 ft versus average height of land above sealevel is 2300 ft.
If the surface of the earth was flat the water would stand over 7900 ft or 1.5 mi deep/high.
So if the mountains were lower and the oceans were shallower there'd be enough water to flood the earth.

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Jack said:

Genesis 7:19 (ESV)
19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.

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•• That somehow the water necessary to cover the entire globe over the height of Mt. Everest (5½ miles above sea level!) fell upon the earth and then vanished.

•• That Noah's Ark, of which the Bible gives the dimensions of (the Sacred Cubit is approx 25' long; thus, the Ark was 625' long x 104' wide x 62' 5" high), was somehow large enough to house the hundreds of thousands of known species today (not to mention their food supply for a year, or the fact that they were taken by two's {unclean animals} and by sevens {clean animals} each - Gen7:2).

•• That from the eight white people on the Ark, in a matter of less that a thousand years, evolved all the different races (Black, Oriental, Hispanic..), and then they suddenly stopped evolving.

•• That the Kenites (sons of Cain from Gen 4:17-24) made it through the flood (to be found in 1st Chron 2:55, etc.), but were not with Noah's family on the Ark (good swimmers perhaps?).

•• That receding water from a single great flood could carve solid rock to the great depth of the grand canyon. (The Grand Canyon extends 277 miles. It is about 1 mile deep. The canyon varies in width from less than 1 mile to 18 miles).
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•• That the reason for the Flood was solely to kill the Giants in Gen 6:1-8, whom were the abominable to God offspring of Adam's daughters and the fallen angels.

•• That the Flood was restricted to the area were Adam's tribe lived and where this mixing of human and angelic being was taking place (Gen 6:1-7).

•• That the Hebrew will allow for "earth" being rendered "land, region, country" (and is in other places in the Bible), and that also "heaven" can be rendered "the visible arch in the sky"for as far as the eye can see due to earth's curvature.

•• That the other races (Black, Asia, Hispanic, ...) were untouched by the flood as they lived in another part of the earth.

•• That the only animals taken onto the Ark were the animals that were found in the region of the Flood (seven of every clean animal, and two of every unclean animal).

•• That God, while he could, does not create Trillion x Trillionsof metric tons of water and then destroy it again a year later (as 'Young Earth' devotees explain away the amount of water necessary to cover the highest mountain ranges (Mt. Everest - 5½ miles above sea level).

•• That carbon 14 and the other elements of this great, God created earth and universe, act (and degrade) in the same fashion and at the same rate as when the Almighty created them (as 'Young Earth' devotees explain away the ancient dates of fossils).

•• And that solid rock exposed to the agitate action of water running across its face erodes at the same rate today that it did 4349 years ago (back to flood year). (The Grand Canyon is about 1 mile deep. The canyon varies in width from less than 1 mile to 18 miles).​

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Jack said:

Genesis 7:19 (DRV)
19 And the waters prevailed beyond measure upon the earth: and all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (ASV)
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high mountains that were under the whole heaven were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (AMP)
19 And the waters prevailed so exceedingly and were so mighty upon the earth that all the high hills under the whole sky were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (CSBBible)
19 Then the water surged even higher on the earth, and all the high mountains under the whole sky were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (CEB)
19 The waters rose even higher over the earth; they covered all of the highest mountains under the sky.

Genesis 7:19 (CJB)
19 The water overpowered the earth mightily; all the high mountains under the entire sky were covered;

Genesis 7:19 (CEV)
19 Finally, the mighty flood was so deep that even the highest mountain peaks were almost twenty-five feet below the surface of the water.

Genesis 7:19 (Darby)
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth; and all the high mountains that are under all the heavens were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (ETRV)
19 The water rose so much that even the highest mountains were covered by the water.

Genesis 7:19 (ESV)
19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (GW)
19 The water rose very high above the earth. It covered all the high mountains everywhere under the sky.

Genesis 7:19 (HCSB)
19 Then the waters surged even higher on the earth, and all the high mountains under the whole sky were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (ICB)
19 The water rose so much that even the highest mountains under the sky were covered by it.

Genesis 7:19 (KJV)
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (MLB)
19 Higher and higher the waters rose over the earth, gaining the upper hand until all the high mountains under heaven were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NET1)
19 The waters completely inundated[29] the earth so that even[30] all the high mountains under the entire sky were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NASB77)
19 And the water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NASB)
19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NCV)
19 The water rose so much that even the highest mountains under the sky were covered by it.

Genesis 7:19 (NIV)
19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NIV2011)
19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (NJB)
19 The waters rose higher and higher above the ground until all the highest mountains under the whole of heaven were submerged.

Genesis 7:19 (NLT2)
19 Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth,

Genesis 7:19 (NRSV)
19 The waters swelled so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered;

Genesis 7:19 (RSV)
19 And the waters prevailed so mightily upon the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered;

Genesis 7:19 (TLB)
19 until finally the water covered all the high mountains under the whole heaven,

Genesis 7:19 (MSG)
19 The flood got worse until all the highest mountains were covered

Genesis 7:19 (TEV)
19 It became so deep that it covered the highest mountains;

Genesis 7:19 (Webster's Bible)
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills that were under the whole heaven were covered.

Genesis 7:19 (YLT)
19 And the waters have been very very mighty on the earth, and covered are all the high mountains which are under the whole heavens;

Couldn't be any clearer.

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Truthnightmare said:

We are to use reason and logic accompanied by subject and object.

The reason for the flood was to destroy the giants. The fallen angels attacked the blood line of Adam in attempts to destroy the lineage that would lead to Christ. There was no need to flood the the entire earth as Jesus would come through one particular race.

Later, we see the fallen angels attempting to destroy the bloodline of the messiah again as it was noted that Jesus would come through David ,,, thus you see more hybrids like Goliath.

There is a truth within a truth.

I would never put the writings of man over the Bible… however, the Chinese have said there was a flood, long ago, that destroyed a people but did not reach them due to there elevation. I have read and date checked these articles, the timeline matches the dates of Noah’s flood.

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