Was Noah's flood global?

[TonyChanYT]

Genesis 6:

20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

Was Noah's flood global?

No, according to Barnes:

For the sake of Noah, the animal species also shall be preserved, "two of each, male and female." They are to come in pairs for propagation. The fowl, the cattle, the creeping thing or smaller animals, are to come. From this it appears that the wild animals are not included among the inmates of the ark. ... As the deluge was universal only in respect to the human race, it was not necessary to include any animals but those that were near man, and within the range of the overwhelming waters. Fodder and other provisions for a year have to be laid in.

Did Noah have marsupial kangaroos in the ark?

No, according to Barnes, it was not a worldwide flood but it looked like one to Noah. As far as Noah could tell, his world died. For all intents and purposes of the redemption story, it was a catastrophic/global event: all humans died except Noah's family. That's the point.

National Center for Science Education gives more detailed calculations:

Because of the curvature of the earth, the horizon drops from where the viewer is standing. However, the drop is proportional to the square of the distance between the viewer and an object on the horizon (Young nd). From these relationships, it can be seen that a tribal chief (or Noah) standing on the deck of a large boat (Ark), perhaps 7.8 meters above the water, would not be able to see the tops of any hills as high as 15 m from as little as 24 km away across flood plains covered with water because the curvature of the earth prevents it (See the Appendix for examples of calculations). Most hills in this region that are as much as 15 m high are more than 95 km away from the river levees. Therefore, the survivors of the Flood could see only water in all directions while they were floating down the Tigris River and over the flood plains. Many of these hills would also be partly covered with water which would make their tops project less above the water level, and therefore, the curvature of the earth would make them disappear from the line of sight in even a shorter distance than 24 km.

There is also a parallel Babylonian Story of the Flood written in about 1750 BC. Both stories called for a world-wide flood to destroy mankind.

 

[quietthinker]

Was Noah's flood global?​

It must have been. Didn't you hear the dinosaurs missed the bus!

 

[Jericho]

Genesis 6:


Was Noah's flood global?

No, according to Barnes:


Did Noah have marsupial kangaroos in the ark?

No, according to Barnes, it was not a worldwide flood but it looked like one to Noah. As far as Noah could tell, his world died. For all intents and purposes of the redemption story, it was a catastrophic/global event: all humans died except Noah's family. That's the point.

National Center for Science Education gives more detailed calculations:


There is also a parallel Babylonian Story of the Flood written in about 1750 BC. Both stories called for a world-wide flood to destroy mankind.

I would say yes for a several reasons:

-Why did God tell Moses to build an ark and preserve the animals if it was a local flood? It would have been much easier to tell them to relocate to higher ground.

-ark rested on the mountains of Ararat. Water flows down, not up. The only way the ark would have ended up in the mountains was if it was a global flood. Plus, a local flood would not have raised flood water that high.

-God made a promise that he would never flood the earth again (Gen 9:8–17), but there have been many local floods since that time.

-Nearly every ancient civilization on earth has a flood tradition. Many details are similar to Noah's Flood, which would make sense if they had a common origin. This to me is circumstantial proof of a global flood as only something as catastrophic as a global flood would leave such an impression on humanity.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Was Noah's flood global

Basic answer if the bible say, that's what happened.
More complicated answer Worldwide Flood Legends

 

[Jim C]

I would say yes for a several reasons:


Why did God tell Moses to build an ark and preserve the animals if it was a local flood? It would have been much easier to tell them to relocate to higher ground.

The ark rested on the mountains of Ararat. Water flows down, not up. The only way the ark would have ended up in the mountains was if it was a global flood. Plus, a local flood would not have raised flood water that high.

God made a promise that he would never flood the earth again (Gen 9:8–17), but there have been many local floods since that time.

A similar story doesn't just appear in Babylon, either. Nearly every ancient civilization on earth has a flood tradition. Some are very similar to Noah's Flood. That would make sense if they had a common origin. Details of the story might change over time, but elements would remain. Only something as catastrophic as a global flood would leave such an impression on humanity.

Excellent point about Ararat.
The question then becomes, "Where did all that water come from and where did it all go?"
(Interestingly, I just finished reading an article about the following 20 minutes ago)
Well, a recent scientific discovery may just answer that. Scientists have discovered a type of rock in the Earth's mantle known as ringwoodite. This rock layer has an interesting property in that it can store water.

Current estimates are that there is 3x the amount of water that is in all the earth's oceans stored in this layer of rock.

Genesis 7:11 "On the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

Coincidence? I think not.

 

[marks]

Global:

Genesis 7:19 KJV
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Genesis 6:


Was Noah's flood global?

No, according to Barnes:


Did Noah have marsupial kangaroos in the ark?

No, according to Barnes, it was not a worldwide flood but it looked like one to Noah. As far as Noah could tell, his world died. For all intents and purposes of the redemption story, it was a catastrophic/global event: all humans died except Noah's family. That's the point.

National Center for Science Education gives more detailed calculations:


There is also a parallel Babylonian Story of the Flood written in about 1750 BC. Both stories called for a world-wide flood to destroy mankind.

Do not take your cues from other religoins nor men of history .

 

[Jim C]

Global:

Genesis 7:19 KJV
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Much love!

Also:
Genesis 7:20 KJV
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So, basically, the highest mountains were under about 23 feet of water.

 

[amigo de christo]

Also:
Genesis 7:20 KJV
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So, basically, the highest mountains were under about 23 feet of water.

Onwards in the LORD my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

Also:
Genesis 7:20 KJV
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So, basically, the highest mountains were under about 23 feet of water.

Yep . if its in the BIBLE the lambs simply BELIEVE IT as does a child . March on in the LORD my friend .
This lamb dont and wont take my cues from men or other religoins . Those who do so will be decieved .

 

[Truthnightmare]

I don’t think the flood was worldwide. But I see how many do.

 

[TonyChanYT]

Current estimates are that there is 3x the amount of water that is in all the earth's oceans stored in this layer of rock.

reference?

 

[TonyChanYT]

Do not take your cues from other religoins nor men of history .

I take my cues from all sources and weigh them.

 

[Truthnightmare]

I take my cues from all sources and weigh them.

It seems to me that the flood of Noah was concentrated on a particular region and land. The land that Adams family resided in.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Yep . if its in the BIBLE the lambs simply BELIEVE IT as does a child . March on in the LORD my friend .
This lamb dont and wont take my cues from men or other religoins . Those who do so will be decieved .

YES!! If we're not careful, we'll try to explain things away that are in the Bible because it doesn't match up with science falsely so called.

1 Timothy 6:20-21
[20]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
[21]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. (The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.)

 

[Truthnightmare]

YES!! If we're not careful, we'll try to explain things away that are in the Bible because it doesn't match up with science falsely so called.

1 Timothy 6:20-21
[20]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
[21]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. (The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.)

But what happens when people interpret the same word differently? I don’t believe the flood was worldwide, but of course I could be wrong.

 

[TLHKAJ]

But what happens when people interpret the same word differently? I don’t believe the flood was worldwide, but of course I could be wrong.

Enquire of the Lord. He will show you.

 

[TonyChanYT]

It seems to me that the flood of Noah was concentrated on a particular region and land. The land that Adams family resided in.

Right. I even take cues from you and weigh it I try to be as objective as possible and listen to reasons.

 

[Jim C]

reference?

I'm not good at doing links, but if you Google Ringwoodite Oceans 2023 you will find several articles.

 

[amigo de christo]

YES!! If we're not careful, we'll try to explain things away that are in the Bible because it doesn't match up with science falsely so called.

1 Timothy 6:20-21
[20]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
[21]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. (The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.)

And thus they have ERRED from the faith .
Lest ye be converted as little children ye shall in no wise enter into the Kingdom of GOD .
Lil children simply BELIEVE the GOD INSPIRED TRUTH of them words . FOR WHO INSPIRED them words , BUT GOD .
Now lift those hands and praise the KING . This lamb follows not the wisdom of men , their phycologies , their sciences .
GOD is MY GOD , CHRIST our CHRIST , the SPIRIT our GUIDE and the bible OUR BOOK by which to grow wise indeed .
The wisdom of this world is foolishness , the carnal mind of man cannot recieve the things of GOD
GOD INSPIRED the WORDS in that bible , MEN inspired science and science is their way of making things make sense to them .
BUT the WORD and words of GOD are what the lambs GONNA FEAST UPON . YES indeed dear sister .
And you can bet this lamb WONT BE HONORING NO HELLOWEEN either . Just had to add the last part as a friendly reminder to all .