Is the story of Noah literal?

[RLT63]

Is the flood of Genesis story literal? I have always thought that it was because Jesus referred to the days of Noah and AIG and YECs do a good job of presenting it as literal, what do y’all think? Are Noah’s ark and flood literal scientific facts? « SMR blog

1. A large percentage of the world’s fauna, including, for example, dodos, sloths, penguins, kangaroos, koalas and many other species, are not native to the Middle East (assuming that was the location of Noah’s ark). How did they travel there to board the ark?
2. Island species are particularly vulnerable to predators — when predators have been introduced to an island, they often drive indigenous species to extinction (as has happened in Australia, Hawaii, the Galapagos and numerous other islands). Thus such species would not have been able to survive in the Middle East, away from their naturally protected habitats.
3. The total mass of on-board animals would have been some 400,000 kg, if only yearlings were taken, or some 5 million kg, if adults were taken. Either figure is far more than could be accommodated in the ark as described in the Bible and reconstructed in Kentucky.
4. The figures in the previous item do not include food and water for a one-year sojourn, which would multiply the weight by at least 10 times if not more. Further, many animals require special diets — silkworms require mulberry leaves, Pandas require bamboo, and snakes, for example, require fresh food. How could fresh food be provided for a full year?
5. How could large numbers of animals be protected from the many on-board predators, such as lions and tigers?

 

[RLT63]

Is the flood of Genesis story literal? I have always thought that it was because Jesus referred to the days of Noah and AIG and YECs do a good job of presenting it as literal, what do y’all think? Are Noah’s ark and flood literal scientific facts? « SMR blog

1. A large percentage of the world’s fauna, including, for example, dodos, sloths, penguins, kangaroos, koalas and many other species, are not native to the Middle East (assuming that was the location of Noah’s ark). How did they travel there to board the ark?
2. Island species are particularly vulnerable to predators — when predators have been introduced to an island, they often drive indigenous species to extinction (as has happened in Australia, Hawaii, the Galapagos and numerous other islands). Thus such species would not have been able to survive in the Middle East, away from their naturally protected habitats.
3. The total mass of on-board animals would have been some 400,000 kg, if only yearlings were taken, or some 5 million kg, if adults were taken. Either figure is far more than could be accommodated in the ark as described in the Bible and reconstructed in Kentucky.
4. The figures in the previous item do not include food and water for a one-year sojourn, which would multiply the weight by at least 10 times if not more. Further, many animals require special diets — silkworms require mulberry leaves, Pandas require bamboo, and snakes, for example, require fresh food. How could fresh food be provided for a full year?

The Impossible Voyage of Noah's Ark | National Center for Science Education

Building the Ark Accommodating All Those Animals Leaving Some Things Behind Sizing Up the Load

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[Jack]

Jesus clearly confirmed that it is literal.

 

[RLT63]

Jesus clearly confirmed that it is literal.

That’s what I have always thought but I’m not sure anymore

 

[Jack]

That’s what I have always thought but I’m not sure anymore

Jesus is the God of miracles. Don't doubt Him. The Bible is about miracles. Many depart from the Faith because they reject the literal miracles from the Bible. I'm a literalist because the Bible demands believing in the Miracles in the Bible.

 

[Gottservant]

As I heard it said by one of our brothers:

Jesus didn't say "as it was in the days of the Easter Bunny..."

 

[Waiting on him]

That’s what I have always thought but I’m not sure anymore

Maybe Moses just penned a story giving his understanding of what God spoke to him. You know, he was an Egyptian. Being raised in the house of Pharaoh Moses would have been taught all the stories of the ancient Mesopotamians and all of the other ancient cultures of the area?

 

[RLT63]

Maybe Moses just penned a story giving his understanding of what God spoke to him. You know, he was an Egyptian. Being raised in the house of Pharaoh Moses would have been taught all the stories of the ancient Mesopotamians and all of the other ancient cultures of the area?

I don’t know about that, the story is very specific

 

[RLT63]

Building the Ark​

The requirements of the story.​

To make this point clear, let's start at the beginning of the biblical narrative and follow the story step by step. From the moment the impending storm is announced (Genesis 6:7, 13, 17) and Jehovah sets forth the design and dimensions of the ark (Genesis 6:14-16), problems start appearing.

The ark is to be made out of gopher wood according to a plan that calls for the ark to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide, and thirty cubits tall (450x75x45 feet, according to most creationists. See Segraves, p. 11). It is to contain three floors, a large door in the side, and a one cubit square window at the top. The floors are to be divided into rooms, and all the walls, inside and out, are to be pitched with pitch. Since the purpose of the ark is to hold animals and plants, particularly two of "every living thing of all flesh . . . to keep them alive with thee" (Genesis 6:19), it will have to be constructed accordingly.

Most creationists simply breeze through this description of the size and requirements of the ark without a second glance ("It is hard to believe that intelligent people see a problem here" — LaHaye and Morris, The Ark on Ararat, p. 248), often with a passing comment about the architectural skill of ancient peoples as manifested in the Seven Wonders of the World. But Noah's boatbuilding accomplishments have not been fully appreciated by his fans.

Ancient shipbuilding.​

In the first place, the analogy with the Seven Wonders does not hold. Only one, the Great Pyramid of Cheops, comes within two thousand years of Noah's day, and it is really the only one whose construction could conceivably approach the level of sophistication of the ark. But the Great Pyramid did not spring de novo from the desert sands; rather, it was the culmination of over a century of architectural evolution, beginning when the "experimenting genius," Imhotep, inspired by the ziggurats of Babylon, built the Step Pyramid around 2680 BC, passing through some intermediate step pyramids to the Bent Pyramid of Snofru, then the first true pyramid, and finally the masterpiece at Cheop (Stewart, pp. 35-39).

On the other hand, in an era when hollowed-out logs and reed rafts were the extent of marine transport, a vessel so massive appeared that the likes of it would not be seen again until the mid-nineteenth century AD. Before he could even contemplate such a project, Noah would have needed a thorough education in naval architecture and in fields that would not arise for thousands of years such as physics, calculus, mechanics, and structural analysis. There was no shipbuilding tradition behind him, no experienced craftspeople to offer advice. Where did he learn the framing procedure for such a Brobdingnagian structure? How could he anticipate the effects of roll, pitch, yaw, and slamming in a rough sea? How did he solve the differential equations for bending moment, torque, and shear stress?

Ancient shipbuilding did achieve a considerable level of technological sophistication, so much so that marine archaeologists are divided over its history (Basch, p. 52). But this was for vessels that were dinghies compared to the ark, and this skill emerged slowly over many centuries: nearly a millennium passed while Egyptian boat lengths increase from 150 to 200 feet (Casson, p. 17). Despite this, the craft remained a prescientific art, acquired through long years of apprenticeship and experience, and disasters at sea due to faulty design were so persistent that the impetus was strong for a more scientific approach (Rawson and Tupper, p. 2). Obviously, the astronomical leap in size, safety, and skill required by Noah is far too vast for any naturalistic explanation.

Not only was the ark without pedigree, it was without descendants also. Creationists Kofahl and Segraves tell us that civilization quickly redeveloped after the flood because the survivors carried over the prediluvian culture: Noah lived 350 years afterwards, Shem 502 (The Creation Explanation, p. 227). During this time, people were fanning out and "replenishing the earth," carrying with them reminiscences of the deluge that would someday excite American missionaries from Sumatra to Spitzbergen. Yet Noah's primary contribution to humanity, his incredible knowledge of naval engineering, vanished without a trace, and the seafarers returned to their hollow logs and reed rafts. Like a passing mirage, the ark was here one day and gone the next, leaving not a ripple in the long saga of shipbuilding.

 

[RLT63]

Accommodating All Those Animals​

The requirements of the story.​

With the huge freighter near completion, the time was drawing near when its colorful cargo would clamber aboard. We now turn to this subject to see if we can learn who and how many made the fateful trip.

Genesis 6:19-20 declares that two of each kind of animal were to be collected and brought on board. This is repeated in Genesis 7:8-9, and it is explicitly stated that this applied to clean and unclean beasts as well as to birds. But Genesis 7:2-3 specifies that clean beasts and birds were to be taken by sevens. Whatever the numbers, it is clear that no animals could be left out. Genesis 7:4 states that "every living substance" that God made was to be destroyed "from off the face of the earth" by the impending flood. Genesis 7:23 repeats the point and adds that only those things with Noah in the ark could survive.

Limiting the cargo to "kinds."​

Creationists realize that the ark had a limited amount of room and they are aware of the large number of species in the animal kingdom. Therefore, they have employed various tactics to reduce the population needed on board. Probably the most important tactic is to restrict the command to "kinds" rather than species and to argue that the former are much fewer in number than the latter.

A kind (or "baramin" in creationist jargon) is the unit of life originally made by God. Within each kind is an enormous potential for variation, resulting, during the past six thousand years or so, in a large number of similar animals that scientists classify into species. Meyer contends that "He created into the reproductive apparatus of genes and chromosomes the possibility of endless hereditary combinations producing the possibility of endless variety within each `kind' " (p. 37). By juggling the number of kinds, LaHaye and Morris reduce the total population aboard the ark to 50,000 (p. 247), Whitcomb and Morris reduce it to 35,000 (p. 69), while Dr. Arthur Jones squeezes it down to a bare bones total of 1,544 (quoted in Balsiger and Sellier, p. 130).

Genetic problems.​

Is this a valid argument? Without going into the details of genetics, it can be stated that every inherited trait, however small, is coded for by one or more genes, and each gene locus may have a substantial number of variants (alleles), which accounts for the great variety observed in a given population. Any specific individual, however, has at most only two alleles per locus—one from each parent. As James C. King writes:

There is good evidence for concluding that every message coded in the DNA exists in any sizeable population in numerous versions, forming a spectrum grading from grossly defective alleles—such as the one for albinism—at one end, through the slightly deviant, to the normal at the other end. And the normal is probably not a single version of the message but a collection of slightly different alleles. (p. 55)

Hence, for a trait such as human pigmentation, "we can visualize not merely a few dozen interacting loci but an array of perhaps a dozen or so alleles at each locus" (p. 60).

From this we can see that the original canine baramin in Eden would have needed a fantastic set of giant chromosomes with alleles for every trait that would someday be manifest in coyotes, wolves, foxes, jackals, dingos, fennecs, and the myriad of minute variations in hair color (twenty-four genes at nine loci), height, face shape, and so forth that are seen in the domestic dog (cf. Hutt). So, too, for the feline kind, within which creationists Byron Nelson (p. 157) and Alfred Rehwinkel (p. 70) both place lions, tigers, leopards, and ocelots as well as housecats. Similar giant chromosomes would be required for the bovine kind, equine kind, and so on.

In the centuries before the deluge, these strange progenitors must have rapidly diversified into their potential species, as the fossil record shows. The equine kind developed not only zebras, horses, onagers, asses, and quaggas but Eohippus, Mesohippus, Merychippus, and other now-extinct species that paleontologists have misinterpreted as evidence for evolution. (Remember that creationists hold that the flood is responsible for the burial of most, if not all, fossil species. Therefore they had to already exist prior to the deluge.)

Then one day, many centuries later, the Lord told Noah to take two canines, two felines, two equines, two pinnipedians—one male and one female each—and put them aboard the ark. The trick is, which does our ancient zoologist choose? A male kit fox and a female Great Dane? A female lion and a male alley cat? An Eohippus and a Clydesdale? Which two individuals would possess the tremendous genetic complement that their ancestors in Eden had, to enable the many species to reappear after the flood? How could Noah tell? Creationist Dennis Wagner tells us that the original kinds degenerated through inbreeding so that their offspring would "never again reach the hereditary variability of the parent" (quoted in Awbrey; my emphasis). Yet the unique couple aboard the ark needed the full genetic potential of the original kind, if not more, for a vast new array of climatic and geographic niches was opened up by the flood.

Speaking of a hypothetical group of six or eight animals stranded on an island, King says, "Such a small number could not possibly reflect the actual allelic frequencies found in the large mainland population" (p. 107). What, then, of the single pair on the ark?

 

[Taken]

Noah’s Ark, Literal ?
Yes.

Noah’s Ark, Carried millions of Animals?
No.

Gen 1:
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
* Cattle KIND (of the earth)
* Creeping KIND (of the earth)
* Beasts KIND (of the earth)

* Flying KIND Birds (of the earth)
* Flying KIND Birds (of the air)
* Water KIND Animals (of the sea)

* Animals, Beasts, Creeping
* Land, Water, Air (primary habitat)

** CLEAN and UNCLEAN…
* suitable for man TO EAT or NOT.
* determined BY CHARACTERISTICS

** CHARACTERISTICS (in brief)
TO EAT:
* Animals: cloven (split) hooves, plant eaters, cud chewers.
* Birds: plant eaters.
* Sea: plant eaters, with Scales.
* Creeping: plant eaters.

TO NOT EAT:
* Animals: smooth hooves, non-plant eaters, non-cud chewers, 4 legged with Paws…
* Animals: Beasts, Fields, Seas, Air, creeping;
Predators: which EAT, Other Animals, Dead Animals, Decaying Animals, Decaying plants.

*** It’s a guideline of KINDS of “Land, Sea, Flying”… “animals, beasts, creeping things” suitable, for ManKIND (for optimal health and nutrition ) to EAT (or NOT….)

*** It is a parallel for ManKIND to EAT “animals, beasts, creeping things”….that which EAT “the same meat and plants” suitable for ManKIND to eat.

*** It is not suitable for ManKIND to eat, rotting, decayed, plants or meat….thus do NOT EAT KINDS of Animals, Beasts, Creeping, which EAT rotting, decayed plants or meat….smooth hooves…four-legged with paws…non-scaled sea animals…birds of prey…
(NOR BTW, clean animals that ARE diseased, sick.)

AND BTW…the primary SAME CLEAN (non-bred ie. Virgin, and non-harnessed ie. Bridled, Animals)….WERE:
The FIRST suitable and acceptable LIFE, (flesh and blood) sacrificed (by ManKind), unto the Lord God…FOR the forgiveness of ManKinds Sins Against God.

** THE CHARACTERISTICS of KINDS OF CLEAN and UNCLEAN ANIMALS, BEASTS, CREEPING THINGS HAS NOT CHANGED.

** THAT WHICH HAS CHANGED……IS
THE (Gods) suitable and acceptable (flesh and blood LIFE SACRIFICE of ManKIND….
**** IS….the flesh LIFE and blood LIFE…
****OF…the MAN himself!!!!!!!!!!

To: Mankind

Don’t worry about WHAT YOU EAT!
Ask Gods BLESSING over WHAT You EAT.
BY your Heartful True Word Agree “as a Living Sacrifice” To GIVE “YOUR” flesh LIFE and blood LIFE, unto DEATH, FOR the Lord God….
AND: By, Through, Of….Gods Grace, Power, Promise….God SHALL forever KEEP YOU, unto Him.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[RLT63]

Is Noah’s Ark a Myth?

Noah’s Ark—bedtime story, myth, allegory, or real history? Was there really a Flood that covered the globe and an Ark filled with animals?

answersingenesis.org

 

[Space_Karen]

To answer the question, I think we should consider how trade and economics were different in the ancient world.

Having roads, freeways and highways in the modern world. Where animals, precious metals and goods can be shipped via 18 wheeler. Makes the concept of shipping animals onboard a large ship (or ark) seem preposterous.

In considering basic logicstics, we know good roads were difficult to come by in the ancient world until the era of the roman empire. Long story short, there weren't good or reliable roads in Noah's era. If you've ever seen a 4 x 4 truck stuck in the mud. Imaging trying to herd a pack of 50 goats through the same terrain. Packing animals onto a raft and sailing them along a river was much easier in that respect. This is part of the reason for many ancient civlizations being founded next to rivers. AFAIK the ancient river was like a freeway of past eras.

Which would mean people of Noah's era were experienced and skilled in housing and transporting animals along waterways on rafts or ships. Transporting cargo and livestock by river was like the amazon dot com of the era. And Noah was like Jeff Bezos in constructing the largest and biggest container ship capable of hauling the most animals.

I think according to the bible, it took Noah decades or even centuries to construct the Ark. Would have to guess Noah endured being the laughing stock of his town for decades or centuries. Everyone would have thought Noah was the village idiot until the flood came.

All of the details and variables are reasonably aligned for the story to have taken place.

 

[Deborah_]

Personally, I think that the stories in the first 11 chapters of Genesis describe real events in the early history of the human race - but they're not "literal" in the sense that if you'd been there you would have seen things happening exactly as described.

Many cultures, all over the world, have an ancient "flood" story very similar to the one in the Bible. This suggests that some kind of disaster did affect the human race and almost completely wiped it out. But it wouldn't have to be a worldwide flood to do that, because at the time the human race was confined to a relatively small geographical area. And the expression "all the world" in the Bible doesn't necessarily mean the whole globe as we know it today. Later in Genesis, during the famine, we're told that people came from "all over the world" to buy grain from Egypt - clearly that can't include people from America and Australia because it would have taken them more than 7 years to hear the news about Egypt and then get there and back. "All the world" is a hyperbolic expression meaning the whole world known to the author and his original readers, i.e. the Middle East. That cuts down the number of animal species involved as well.

With regard to shipbuilding technology, it's important to remember that the Ark wasn't a "ship" at all - it was just a large floating box (which is why it's called an "ark", not a "boat"). It didn't have sails, oars or steering gear. It's sole function was to protect its occupants from drowning.

 

[Jack]

The NT clearly tells us that the Flood and burning Sodom alive are literal. To deny this is the terrible sin of unbelief of what God said.

2 Peter 2
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

 

[RLT63]

To answer the question, I think we should consider how trade and economics were different in the ancient world.

Having roads, freeways and highways in the modern world. Where animals, precious metals and goods can be shipped via 18 wheeler. Makes the concept of shipping animals onboard a large ship (or ark) seem preposterous.

In considering basic logicstics, we know good roads were difficult to come by in the ancient world until the era of the roman empire. Long story short, there weren't good or reliable roads in Noah's era. If you've ever seen a 4 x 4 truck stuck in the mud. Imaging trying to herd a pack of 50 goats through the same terrain. Packing animals onto a raft and sailing them along a river was much easier in that respect. This is part of the reason for many ancient civlizations being founded next to rivers. AFAIK the ancient river was like a freeway of past eras.

Which would mean people of Noah's era were experienced and skilled in housing and transporting animals along waterways on rafts or ships. Transporting cargo and livestock by river was like the amazon dot com of the era. And Noah was like Jeff Bezos in constructing the largest and biggest container ship capable of hauling the most animals.

I think according to the bible, it took Noah decades or even centuries to construct the Ark. Would have to guess Noah endured being the laughing stock of his town for decades or centuries. Everyone would have thought Noah was the village idiot until the flood came.

All of the details and variables are reasonably aligned for the story to have taken place.

Thanks for posting

 

[RLT63]

The NT clearly tells us that the Flood and burning Sodom alive are literal. To deny this is the terrible sin of unbelief of what God said.

2 Peter 2
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

Thanks for posting

 

[RLT63]

Personally, I think that the stories in the first 11 chapters of Genesis describe real events in the early history of the human race - but they're not "literal" in the sense that if you'd been there you would have seen things happening exactly as described.

Many cultures, all over the world, have an ancient "flood" story very similar to the one in the Bible. This suggests that some kind of disaster did affect the human race and almost completely wiped it out. But it wouldn't have to be a worldwide flood to do that, because at the time the human race was confined to a relatively small geographical area. And the expression "all the world" in the Bible doesn't necessarily mean the whole globe as we know it today. Later in Genesis, during the famine, we're told that people came from "all over the world" to buy grain from Egypt - clearly that can't include people from America and Australia because it would have taken them more than 7 years to hear the news about Egypt and then get there and back. "All the world" is a hyperbolic expression meaning the whole world known to the author and his original readers, i.e. the Middle East. That cuts down the number of animal species involved as well.

With regard to shipbuilding technology, it's important to remember that the Ark wasn't a "ship" at all - it was just a large floating box (which is why it's called an "ark", not a "boat"). It didn't have sails, oars or steering gear. It's sole function was to protect its occupants from drowning.

Thanks for posting

 

[Taken]

Personally, I think that the stories in the first 11 chapters of Genesis describe real events in the early history of the human race - but they're not "literal" in the sense that if you'd been there you would have seen things happening exactly as described.

Gen 1:
[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen 1:
[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:
[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

The water(S) … multiple “gathered together”
The land………… singular “appear”

Gen 1:
[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 1:
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Heaven and Earth “CREATED”.
Seas gathered.
Land appeared.
God “THEY” “CREATED and then MADE” specifics pertaining to WHAT “THEY” Created.
Animal KINDS that fly in the AIR of Heaven.
Animal KINDS out of the Gathered Water.
Animals KINDS out of the Land.
Man KIND out of the Land.
Man KIND given Dominion OVER, animal kinds.

Habitats….
One Heaven of AIR….multiple birds
One Sea of WATER….multiple animals
One Earth of LAND….multiple animals, man

Doesn’t matter IF man was YET created and made, TO SEE God “creating and making”….
Man-KIND “CAN SEE” the “RESULTS” of God’s “CREATION and MAKING”.

The “GOOD” CREATING and MAKING occurred, BY, THROUGH, OF…….”THEM” = “GOD”…. WHO IS “THEM” “us” “our” = “GOD”?

The “SPIRIT” of God…IS GOD…”US, OUR”.
God “SAID” “WORD of God..IS GOD…THEM”
“Creator AND Maker”.

Creator AND Maker….Created and Made= GOOD

Creator AND Maker…Gave manKIND “authority / dominion” OVER Gods GOOD, “creations and makings”…
Waters, Earth, Air of Heaven….

Later we LEARN of “HEAVEN…(S)”…
Later we LEARN of “WATER…..(S)”…
Later we LEARNS of “LAND……(S)”…

Gen
[4] These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

* Three HEAVENS…a layering, and divisions of sorts.
High Heavens, unseeable, unreachable by man.
Mid Heavens, seeable, but unreachable by man.
Lower Heavens, seeable and reachable by man.
* Three EARTHS….a layering, and divisions of sorts.
Dirt surface Land, Dirt Layers digged, Water under the Land while above Dry Land, unreachable by Man.

God, created and made….GOOD.
God, gave Dominion to manKIND….to KEEP and FOSTER GOOD.
** Man-KIND failed, and in respect of the “majority” of “ANCIENT” : Man-KIND, “continued” to FAIL.
** AND…God RESPONDED with “MAKING MORE” DIVISIONS.

Gen 1:
[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Read the Scriptures….Divisions…
Water Above the Earth, sent down.
Water Under (the deep) sent upon the Earth.
ManKIND upon the Earth killed, being VOID of AIR necessary for man to sustain his Life.

Eight men SAVED. Being Risen UP Above the Earth, Above the Waters, Continuing in the Lower Heavens, Breathing Air.

Gen 7:
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
[18] And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
[19] And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
[20] Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
[21] And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
[22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
[23] And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. <—- (Lifted UP above the Earth).

More Divisions….People…Hebrews/Gentiles.

More Divisions….Land…
Gen 10:
[25] And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

More Divisions….Gentiles & Gentiles…Babel
Gen 11:9

More Divisions…Hebrews; Tribes of Israel/ Gentiles.

More Divisions….Jews / Tribes of Israel

More Divisions…..Men / from God, from Jesus, from Christ, from Salvation, from Earth, from Heaven….TO Hell.

Nothing NEW under the SUN…
Divisions, Gathering/ Scattering….
With and Without….
Firmaments Divisions…Firmaments Opened.
Water gathered/ Water flooding/ destroying.
Gathering the Saved/ Scattering the unSaved.
Fire OF God / Fire sent / upon the NON-Gathered remaining upon the Earth, destroying with FIRE.



Destruction with WATER…
Saving with WATER…
Destruction with FIRE…
Saving with FIRE….

The Spirit of God: POWER
The Word of God: Effects His Power’s Desire.
The TWO EDGED SWORD…
Destroy…or Save….from the SAME “Him”…
Who is THEY….Creator AND Maker.
Destroy…or Save….By, through, of DIVISIONS….then SEPARATIONS.

Luke 12:
[51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

The Land was Clearly “ONE” Land.
The Land(S) Are Clearly “DIVIDED”.
The People were Clearly “ONE” People.
The People(S) Are Clearly “DIVIDED”.

Clearly, God, FIRE, SHALL END the “DIVISION”….”by, through, of….Gods Spirit (Power), Gods Word (Speech) and “SEPARATION” between Heaven AND Earth…
Between Land and Land….between Man and Man….

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Windmillcharge]

This topic has been thoroughly dealt with by both answersingenesis and creation.com.
In fact there is a technically analysis of the Arks sea keeping qualities by Christ Korean naval archiectec.
Look at:-
Creation.com/safety-investigation-of-noahs-ark-ina-seaway