Aspen2 has stated that anyone who feels they need a gun for defense is not trusting in God. Trying to reason with such a diseased thought process is as fruitful as sweeping a dirt floor.BiggAndyy said:
Gun Violence and Gun Control
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aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I was just asking Andy - it is up to z if he wants to answer. He was responding to my post in the first place. And Vale, you are blinded by your politics.
Actually, I've demonstrated that you are just as blind if not immensely more. Your beholden loyalty to the Democrat Party has made you part of the fake pro-life movement whereby abortion is wrong, but nothing should be done to stop it. Nearly all Democrat Catholics fall into this category and that's just one example. Moreover, if you want to have a private conversation with Andy, then you can utilize the PM system. Otherwise anything you say is fair game for riposte.aspen2 said:
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I also believe divorce is wrong, but I do not believe it should be criminalized - neither does God, for that matter
BTW, I can respond publicly to any post I choose to respond to Vale - even Andy's post.
BTW, I can respond publicly to any post I choose to respond to Vale - even Andy's post.
Good job equating the wholesale slaughter of innocent human life to divorce. It's clear you don't have your priorities straight. Furthermore, you have no idea what God thinks on this matter or any other because it's clear that you believe God is fine with abortion on demand remaining intact in America. You're so estranged from the mind of God it's heartbreaking. Suffice to say, slavery was ended in this country because we stopped listening to people like you and listened to people who thought it was possible to end a great social evil through force of law. Oh yes, we had your kind way back in the 19th century saying you believe slavery was wrong but nothing should be done to stop it. Your kind has always existed throughout human history facilitating, enabling, and protecting evil regimes and social practices through sheer indifference and overture to despair.aspen2 said:
By contrast, those of us with deep convictions, who defend what is right by all means possible, believe that evil can and should be stopped; that governments were instituted by God to protect people, especially the most innocent among us, and that social policy can protect all human life, born and unborn. We don't pay lip service to the pro life cause and then vote for abortion on demand and we don't for a moment believe that any social evil is unstoppable. We were the ones who brought an end to the horrific Roman gladiator events because we didn't throw up our hands in despair and say, "it's a terrible thing, but we can't do anything about it." Good has always triumphed because of a few brave souls though outnumbered by cowards and enablers. Good has never overcome because of people like you.
Live with that.
(sorry for getting off topic)
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Are you finished Vale?
Now you might want to go back and read some history. The Southern slave owners used the Bible to defend slavery. Shakers and Quakers were the abolitionists. Shakers activity adopted black children out of slavery - rescuing thousands - and they were a cult!
Too bad you have such a low opinion of the sacrament of marriage - btw, we all know how God feels about divorce if we read the Bible - 'God hates divorce' Malachi 2:16.
Who are 'my people'? You sound like Archie Bunker.....
Now you might want to go back and read some history. The Southern slave owners used the Bible to defend slavery. Shakers and Quakers were the abolitionists. Shakers activity adopted black children out of slavery - rescuing thousands - and they were a cult!
Too bad you have such a low opinion of the sacrament of marriage - btw, we all know how God feels about divorce if we read the Bible - 'God hates divorce' Malachi 2:16.
Who are 'my people'? You sound like Archie Bunker.....
I can understand a person wanting a rifle for hunting or target practice, but I see no justification for an ordinary citizen to have concealable pistols or assault rifles.
I agree with Aspen2 that our trust should be in God, not in weapons. Over and over God told Israel not to depend on chariots, horses, and swords, but to put their trust in him. Jesus said that those who live by the sword would die by the sword, and to not return violence for violence. Why can't we trust Him?
I agree with Aspen2 that our trust should be in God, not in weapons. Over and over God told Israel not to depend on chariots, horses, and swords, but to put their trust in him. Jesus said that those who live by the sword would die by the sword, and to not return violence for violence. Why can't we trust Him?
That explains why, before He was arrested, Jesus told his disciples to have at least one of them armed with a sword.day said:
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Motor vehicles were designed to transport things. They weren't designed to kill people. Guns were designed for killing. Classifying motor vehicles by putting them in the same category as guns is foolish and senseless............even stupid!zhavoney said:
Christ will take your guns away when he returns to set up his kingdom. Those who refuse to give them up will be banned from His kingdom!
I own guns. I know that they kill people and know they aren't classified in the same category as auto's.
When it comes to politics people people don't care about how ignorant they are.
I took the NRA hunter safety course in the mid 60's. Had Hector, the NRA instructor, told us that guns don't kill people he would have been laughed at.
Guns kill people. That's why the NRA called it a "HUNTER SAFETY COURSE!"
Posted 04 September 2013 - 06:20 PM
aspen2, on 04 Sept 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:
aspen2, on 04 Sept 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:
And I will wait for the determination that Guns are made for the sole purpose of killing. Because they are not. I have loads of fun with my fifty caliber on the range seeing just how far I can back up and still hit my target. I also love to shoot skeet with my winchester 1100. I have never and would never use them on a living creature.aspen2 said:
It doesn't matter what the devil created them for. If they have killed one of Gods creatures even unintentionally they are fuel for the fire at the end. You are correct though not one of satans creations will make it into Christ's kingdom.kaotic profit said:
Nobody is encouraging the government to ban guns! In my state I can buy an assault rifle TODAY and sell it to anyone I want TOMORROW! What many of us want is better accountability of guns. It's more difficult for me to go hunting squirrels than it is to buy an assault weapon! I have to go to the NRA hunter safety course, and I have to purchase a hunting license just to walk in the woods to hunt squirrels!veteran said:
I'm all for people owning guns and against banning them. But I'm also for people using common sense about their guns. And #1 is to admit that they do kill people!
More Accountability of Guns = More Gun Rights Taken Away
kaoticprofit = White man speak with FORKED TONGUE.
kaoticprofit = White man speak with FORKED TONGUE.
Typical of gunners to blow things out of proportion.veteran said:
I'm all for your gun rights to be taken away because you can't get anything right!
So you want to take away somebody's rights because they don't agree with you?kaotic profit said:
I never said I want to take any ones rights away!This Vale Of Tears said:
Like I said gunners seldom get anything right. They put their politics ahead of common sense. It's the gunners who speak with fork tongue. In one hand they have an AK 47. In the hand they say guns don't kill people. Hypocrites!
I never said I was in favor of taking away peoples guns or rights. I'm in favor of common sense gun laws. We have some of the most lax gun laws in the world. The only countries that have more lax gun laws are Islamic countries. Like I said. I can buy an assault weapon today and sell it to someone else tomorrow. We have better accountability of cars than we do guns.
When the Lord returns He will take all of our guns away. Big Andy once said about his 26 guns, "who wants to be the first to come take them away."
That would be our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
Uh...dude...you just said "I'm all for your gun rights to be taken away because you can't get anything right!" so I was right and now you're just contradicting yourself.kaotic profit said:
Moreover, since I'm probably the only American Indian in this conversation, let me decide who speaks with forked tongue. My people have a long history of being disarmed by white people to make us easier to conquer and to control. My grandfather told me stories about house to house searches his generation endured, so I have a bit of an inside view on the real intent of gun control. Oh, and by the way, this was considered "common sense" at the time.
And don't offend us Christians by enlisting Jesus Christ in your arguments. He not only has never supported gun control, but he even took the time to make sure his apostles had swords to defend themselves. I'm just glad that Jesus didn't have "common sense" and he wasn't a whacked out Left leaning statist like you seem to be.
In the end it would be futile to bring a gun to a God fight. but nevertheless they try anyway. This is the battle when Christ and His saints return to subdue the devils of the earth.
Joel 2
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the Lord is coming, For it is at hand:
2 A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations.
3 A fire devours before them, And behind them a flame burns; The land is like the Garden of Eden before them, And behind them a desolate wilderness; Surely nothing shall escape them.
4 Their appearance is like the appearance of horses; And like swift steeds, so they run.
5 With a noise like chariots Over mountaintops they leap, Like the noise of a flaming fire that devours the stubble, Like a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before them the people writhe in pain; All faces are drained of color.
7 They run like mighty men, They climb the wall like men of war; Every one marches in formation, And they do not break ranks.
8 They do not push one another; Every one marches in his own column. Though they lunge between the weapons, They are not cut down.
9 They run to and fro in the city, They run on the wall; They climb into the houses, They enter at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth quakes before them, The heavens tremble; The sun and moon grow dark, And the stars diminish their brightness.
11 The Lord gives voice before His army, For His camp is very great; For strong is the One who executes His word. For the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; Who can endure it?
Joel 2
1 Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the Lord is coming, For it is at hand:
2 A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations.
3 A fire devours before them, And behind them a flame burns; The land is like the Garden of Eden before them, And behind them a desolate wilderness; Surely nothing shall escape them.
4 Their appearance is like the appearance of horses; And like swift steeds, so they run.
5 With a noise like chariots Over mountaintops they leap, Like the noise of a flaming fire that devours the stubble, Like a strong people set in battle array.
6 Before them the people writhe in pain; All faces are drained of color.
7 They run like mighty men, They climb the wall like men of war; Every one marches in formation, And they do not break ranks.
8 They do not push one another; Every one marches in his own column. Though they lunge between the weapons, They are not cut down.
9 They run to and fro in the city, They run on the wall; They climb into the houses, They enter at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth quakes before them, The heavens tremble; The sun and moon grow dark, And the stars diminish their brightness.
11 The Lord gives voice before His army, For His camp is very great; For strong is the One who executes His word. For the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; Who can endure it?
There is no such thing as an "assault rifle", that is a term invented by progressives to beguile the stupid and gullible.kaotic profit said:
Please tell me what State you are in so I can verify your statements.
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