This war is all about Israel. I have no doubt that the 'Rulers' of Iran are the Satanists hating Israel.
Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?
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I don't think you even read what I posted. You have no idea what the talmud ( the authoritative book in judaism) says about Jesus Christ.
At least the Quran has respect for Jesus ( even though they are wrong).
And you really believe that jews worship the God of the Bible? According to scripture it is impossible!
1 John 2:22-23 KJV - 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Gotta laugh. All the wars we were involved in since 9/11 have been for the benefit of clearing the way for the Middle East land grab called " GREATER ISRAEL". Look it up. Yeah it's all about Israel. Oh and by the way, ISRAEL IS HOME TO THE LARGEST NUMBER IF SATANIC CULTS. You can research that one also.
What???
Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." '
And He did!
18 And they will go there, and they will take away all its detestable things and all its abominations from there.
19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh,
And He will!
20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.
Amen Jesus!
Are you watching God fight for Israel? It's amazing!
stevesonthebay
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Iran has been behind the terror committed throughout the world. Ever since the Khamenei regime has taken over. It began by attacking its own people and surrounding Ara nations trying to force an Islamist revolution. It aligned with the PLO and Iran has allied and funded several anti-Israeli Islamist militant groups since.[302].
In fact Iran was the second Arab nation to accept Isreal as a nation soon after it was declared a nation in 1948. It has been since the Khamenei regime has taken over by force that it has narrowed its politics and ideology with radical Islam.
Since then we have seen this radical ideology spread and inflict terror on the world with its various Islamist groups such as the Taliban, al-Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS), al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, and Hamas as the latest.
This evil aim to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth and western Christians by extenstion is the ideology. Its not about making peace in this world and accepting that others have a different belief. Its about imposing Islam on all. A holy war.
In some ways we can relate this to the western church in the middle ages trying to install a theocracy. Radical Islam is a modern theocracy being forced on Iran and the world.
An interesting aspect is that when this ideology began it was mixed with Marxist, socialist and communist ideas. Which fuled the revolution at first. But then it became religious and the centralised control of marxist ideas became the centralised control of religious fundementalism in radical Islam.
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stevesonthebay
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Difference is I am not trying to be an armchair war critic. All I am doing is pointing out the facts. I don't side with any side. I laid out the situation as it is.
That is we have had terror committed for decades now and its got worse and no one has properly addressed the situation. Thats it. I think its important that we at least speak the truth over what is happening.
Iran is a tyrannical problematic actor that has caused untold suffering yes that is true....but there doesn't seem to be any clear or easy path to victory. We do not have the means to force open the Hormuz open indefinitely, even escorting a few dozen likely costs millions to billions of dollars. And Israel is not even directly involved in the recent hostilities (the US and Iran are the main actors here).
And the President does not seem to want to remove their government outright either for some reason. So what exactly is the next step?
What do you mean " what"?
When I said :
"And you really believe that jews worship the God of the Bible? According to scripture it is impossible!"
And then I gave you the scripture reference, that unless you believe in Jesus Christ, there is no way to the Father. Also in John 14:6 we read:
John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Their religion does not worship the God of the Bible, because they have rejected the Lord Jesus Christ. And if you ever look into judaism, you will understand very quickly why.
Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." '
And He did!
Wrong. Although Israel exists as a nation today, the Israelites were to never again have a nation. After the temple was destroyed and the people were scattered their kingdom came to an end, along with the Old Covenant. The fact that all of their genealogical records were destroyed at that time also says a lot.
In the Old Testament, every reference to a future inheritance to the land of Israel is an ETERNAL REFERENCE. The " land of Israel" , " land of Canaan" or even " Zion" are words used to describe the kingdom of Heaven, the final resting place for " all Israel ".
" All Israel " is also symbolic language describing all born again believers in Christ.
Galatians 3:29 KJV
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
" Abraham's seed" in this context is the spiritual seed of Christ. Christians are heirs of the promise of an ETERNAL kingdom.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Genesis 17:7-8 KJV
And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. [8] And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
The " land of Canaan" is an " everlasting" possession, not an earthly one.
Hebrews 11:8-10 KJV
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
[9] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
[10] For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
Abraham is in the " land of promise" right now. So when we read a verse like:
Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." '
That promised land is prepared for all Christians.
stevesonthebay
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I don't know what the next step is. Its not a good situation whichever way nayone deals with it. If you leave the radicals alone then they just build and build towards their objective. Even if that is developing a nuclear weapon. The same bombs that reahed Isreal could very well one day have a nuclear weapon attached. Thats the reality.
Yet if anyone tries to negociate as we have seen time and time again with all these radical groups. They lie and play games and will never keep any peace treaty. They have admitted that even if Isreal or the west gave them everything they wanted they will still aim to destroy Isreal and the west by extension.
Any attempts to stop them only emboldens them like all suicidal and radical ideologies will end up doing. Even sacrificing and mudering their own people to achieve that aim.
This is something beyond what any decent people can reason with. We are damned if we don't and damned if we do.
At the same time if someone is constantly attacking you sooner or later it will get to a point where they can no longer accept such attacks and will bite back. Something the Islamist are encouraging.
That mentality seems to be spreading. Maybe that was their aim all along. That they would stir division and hate among the west that this ideology will infect peoples minds and they will also start fighting and resisting.
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Ziggy
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What good will money do you when they decide to blow up the world?
Who will be left to celebrate the billions of dollars that were saved because we didn't remove a threat that could annihilate the world?
I don't understand the rationale where there needs to be a price tag on freedom?
How much is too much?
People getting a pinch because the gasoline went up a dollar, in exchange for a country wanting to free itself from tyranny and oppression.
Oh MY POOR WALLET
shame
Who will be left to celebrate the billions of dollars that were saved because we didn't remove a threat that could annihilate the world?
I don't understand the rationale where there needs to be a price tag on freedom?
How much is too much?
People getting a pinch because the gasoline went up a dollar, in exchange for a country wanting to free itself from tyranny and oppression.
Oh MY POOR WALLET
shame
The following information was taken from an organization called ICAN- The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear weapons. Their assessment is fair and accurate, and they are facts that anyone can research. It is EXTREMELY important to understand Iran's view on nuclear weapons compared to the jewish manipulation of our media and the narrative they have been giving us for the last 30 years at least about " IRAN BEING ON THE VERGE OF HAVING A NUCLEAR WEAPON", which NEVER WAS THE CASE. It was and is all made up..... propaganda.
So, please read these short paragraphs.
Does Iran have nuclear weapons?
No. Iran has a well-developed nuclear energy programme which is for non-military purposes. Iran’s nuclear programme has aroused international concern, however, the United States and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) continue to assess that Iran is not currently pursuing weapons-related activities.
Iran’s recent nuclear activities are nevertheless very concerning, as they shorten the period of time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon if it chose to do so. Iran’s enrichment of uranium to higher levels and its refusal to comply with all international inspections and investigations since the U.S. abandoned the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, better known as the Iran nuclear deal, in 2018 and reimposed sanctions, are at issue.
Iran has several research sites, uranium mines, a research reactor and several uranium enrichment facilities. Its programme began in the 1950s with support from the U.S under the “Atoms for Peace” program. Iran has been a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) since 1970 and so it is legally bound not to develop or acquire nuclear weapons.
In 2015, following talks with the five original nuclear-armed states, China, France, Russia, the UK and the US, plus Germany, Iran agreed to limitations on its nuclear programme, including the enrichment of uranium and reduce the size of its stockpile of enriched uranium, in return for the lifting of sanctions.
In 2018, then President Trump took the US out of the JCPOA deal and reimposed sanctions. In response, Iran has incrementally violated provisions of the deal in an apparent effort to put pressure on the other parties to the deal to bring the US back into compliance. Under President Biden, efforts to agree to a US return to the deal and an Iranian return to complete compliance have so far been unsuccessful.
The situation has, in fact, deteriorated sharply. In June 2025, Israel launched major airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, and the United States followed with air strikes on suspected nuclear sites Natanz, Fordow and Esfahan — actions that ICAN has condemned as illegal and a dangerous........
( In other words, everything was fine until cuck Trump at the behest of net and yoohoo took us out of the deal, which brought back restrictions on Iran EVEN THOUGH they were in accordance with the agreement. Of course they had every right to be angry.
They had regular inspections which showed NO evidence of nuclear weapons development. Only civilian development and use.)
Currently, there are 9 countries that possess nuclear weapons, 6 countries that host them and 28 countries that officially endorse them.
1): Of the 28 countries that endorse the use of nuclear weapons, IRAN IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
2): ISRAEL is the only country in the Middle East that possesses nuclear weapons ( approximately 90).
3): IRAN has been part of the Nuclear Non- Proliferation Treaty ( NPT) since 1970.
ISRAEL is not part of the NPT. Israel has never officially confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons.
4): IRAN'S STANCE ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS:
Officially, Iran maintains that nuclear weapons are religiously forbidden (haram). This stance is anchored in a fatwa (religious ruling) issued by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, which states that the development, stockpiling, and use of weapons of mass destruction contradict Islamic teachings.
(Official Doctrine): State officials, including President Masoud Pezeshkian, cite the fatwa as the definitive framework for Iran's nuclear program, arguing that it permanently prohibits the pursuit of nuclear weapons.
ISRAEL'S STANCE ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS:
The Samson Option is a term used by military analysts to describe Israel's alleged "last resort" deterrence strategy of massive nuclear retaliation if the country faces imminent military destruction or an existential threat.The Core PrincipleThe strategy dictates that if Israel's conventional military forces are entirely overwhelmed and the state is on the verge of collapse, it would deploy its undeclared nuclear arsenal against its adversaries to ensure that its enemies are destroyed along with it. The strategy serves as a doomsday insurance policy meant to deter a total, coordinated onslaught by hostile nations.
Unlike standard Cold War deterrence models like Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), which were built to prevent nuclear warfare between two similarly armed superpowers, the Samson Option acts as a asymmetric threat intended to deter a final conventional defeat by regional adversaries.
So, really consider the HYPOCRISY here. Israel (along with it's servant the U.S. military) can wipe out the entire Middle East but if any country wants to retaliate and prevent them from continual wars and genocide THE WHOLE WORLD IS THREATENED BY A NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST.
SO PLEASE, who is the greater threat?
If Iran was so hell-bent on developing a nuclear weapon, they had 47 YEARS TO DO SO.
We are being lied to. And once again innocent lives don't mean anything. And soon ( I pray not) the U.S. will be deploying ground troops because Iran must be neutralized for the sake of GREATER ISRAEL.
Dan Clarkston
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And yet here you are trying to be an armchair war critic.
You can't handle the Truth! All the darkness going on in the world is a outward manifestation of the ongoing spiritual battle between good and evil.
The thinking the moslems are the good guys are on the side of evil, and stan thanks them for their service to the kingdom of darkness.
Put the evil regime controlling Iran down like the rabid murderous dogs that they are
The Kurds have been wanting to go in on the ground and topple the murderous regime and we should arm them and provide air support as they go in and take over Iran
The Kurds have helped the US quite a bit in the Iraq war as well as in Afghanistan. They are friendly to the US and do not have the de3moinic mantra to destroy Israel so now is the time to help the Kurds topple the current regime in Iran.
If there is not regime change in Iran, then nothing will change and all this will have been for nothing.
Hopefully Trump has the manhood to finish the job. We'll see if he's a real man or if he's a sissy like all the liberals.
Ziggy
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amigo de christo
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To the trenches one and all . Any jew and gentile that rejects the testimony that GOD gave of the SON ,
IS NOT serving the one true GOD but rather they call HIM a liar .
You be correct my friend . Many are the gentiles and the jews who are trapped under the bondage of their father .
And now a word from long long ago .
As the jews to told JESUS , WE HAVE ONE FATHER it IS GOD .
And he said ye do the work of your father the devil . YEAH . IF one denies the CHRIST OF GOD , THEY DO DENY GOD .
That is a fact . and as for the muslims , their jesus is NOT JESUS , they deny HE is the SON of GOD as well .
They will wail every bit as loudly as will any other gentile , and jew . Even them sweet ol buddist monks , WILL WAIL
on JESUS day . You see THERE REALLY IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER , WHO BE GOD ALL MIGHTY .
HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST and if one believes not on Him , well they do call GOD A LIAR .
Just like our jewish born brother john wrote to the church . ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD
and if a man beleives not on HIM , well THERE BE NO TRUTH IN THEM .
amigo de christo
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This entire world , the ol heavens and earth gonna roast away on JESUS DAY .
SO my advice is beware of anything within the poltical realm , ecumeincal realm , interfaith of anti christ realm .
Cause to follow that is The certain double death of the soul of all who did .
DO notice , ALL NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK of LIFE will worship the beast .
DO NOTICE that all who do worship the beast , BE DAMNED , NO expection ziggy .
THERE REALLY IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD , and yalls beloved ecumeincal WHORE has sold HIM OUT for A LIE .
So , watch out everyone cause a rather s trong delusion is being unleashed
and it lies and brings the idea that all beleivers and unbelievers must now all unite
and usher in something FROM GOD .
OH THEY GONNA USHER something in FROM GOD ON JESUS day , ITS KNOWN as and called THEIR OWN sudden destruction .
TIME to preach the one true JESUS CHRIST or prepare to wail on HIS DAY .
Hey, I had a crazy thought. What if the regime was changed in Israel? Maybe the new one would leave everyone else alone and stop the genocide.
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What does Isreal buying weapons from the US (creating American jobs) have anything to do with genocide and raping our finances?
Isreal is giving the U.S. money for a product and creating jobs. How is that "raping our finances"? That makes no sense...........
Sooooo back to your 'genocide' and raping of our finance's theory: Where is your evidence?
Patient Mary
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Thank you for that Ziggy. I had forgotten the history on how peaceful that area was BEFORE the Ayatollah engaged in his bloody coup, killing his own people to obtain power. Prayers for the people of Iran to be free of Islamic rule should be what all Christians are doing.
Mary
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