Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

[stevesonthebay]

WOW ...where have you been the last several months? It is Israel and the US that has broken every single "cease-fire." What's going on with you people who refuse to acknowledge the truth??

I hate all the armchair war debates. Many have tried and failed to deal with this ongoing issue. I don't know what the answer is. If you leave your damned because we know the radicals will grow and are willing for a holy war against Isreal and the west. The west has already experienced some of that.

But we are also damned if we try to stop them as this escalates the situation. Its confronting it head on rather than turning a blind eye. So its bound to be unpredictable and conflicting.

I am pretty sure the peace deals being made at the moment involve a number of nations with Pakistan being the go between and Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt as mediators. [1, 2]. I also think NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte supports Trump on this. Though I am highly suspicious of world organisations like the UN and EU.

The point is no one can deny this is a major issue for the world. We have seen the growing terror. We have experience it on home soil in western nations.

The question everyone is arguing over is (how) this should be dealt with ? Not whether or not something needs to be done. We already know something needs to be done because nations are fighting over it. Like I said everyone can be armchair critics. But that does not solve the problem. In fact I think it makes it worse.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The question everyone is arguing over is (how) this should be dealt with ? Not whether or not something needs to be done.

How we should deal with this is to stay home, build our own defense systems. And stay out of Israel's affairs. Scripture calls them a burdensome stone. We need to leave Israel to God and pray for them as scripture instructs. If an enemy attacks us, we would be prepared, bc we wouldn't be sending all our money and resources elsewhere to fight needless wars that are more about GREED than anything.

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[Wrangler]

How we should deal with this is to stay home, build our own defense systems. And stay out of Israel's affairs. Scripture calls them a burdensome stone. We need to leave Israel to God and pray for them as scripture instructs. If an enemy attacks us, we would be prepared, bc we wouldn't be sending all our money and resources elsewhere to fight needless wars that are more about GREED than anything.

Sometimes I get the impression that you might not be fully supportive of Israel.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Sometimes I get the impression that you might not be fully supportive of Israel.

Jews, yes ....the nation of Israel as it exists today, no. I pray for Jews to receive their true Messiah, Jesus Christ. Biblically, Israel is a burdensome stone. God is fully able to deal with Israel. We don't need to be murdering babies and children on their behalf ....no, we don't.

 

[Luther7]

Sometimes I get the impression that you might not be fully supportive of Israel.

There is no Biblical command to support any state .... especially when the New Covenant began. Israel 1948 was the result of political blackmail, back room deals, terrorism and ethnic cleansing in the years leading up to it's
" statehood".
It was in NO WAY ORGANIC, as if it had God's blessing like the christian goyim really believe. Once you wake up to how BADLY WE HAVE BEEN DECEIVED, they will continue to gain strength in the last days. And perhaps it has to go this way. But we have the mandate to warn others if all else
Their religion is a gross perversion of the Old Testament. And most importantly, if you do not have the Son you do not have the Father. And that includes every person that sells their soul to them for prosperity, instead of turning towards God. THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THIS MESS.

 

[Luther7]

Jews, yes ....the nation of Israel as it exists today, no. I pray for Jews to receive their true Messiah, Jesus Christ. Biblically, Israel is a burdensome stone. God is fully able to deal with Israel. We don't need to be murdering babies and children on their behalf ....no, we don't.

I pray for all people to receive Jesus Christ. Don't know why we make them a separate category from humanity. We live in the time of the New Covenant.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I pray for all people to receive Jesus Christ. Don't know why we make them a separate category from humanity. We live in the time of the New Covenant.

Of course ....but that wasn't the question "Wrangler" posed to me. So my response was specific in relation.to "Israel" and "Jews."

 

[Luther7]

Of course ....but that wasn't the question "Wrangler" posed to me. So my response was specific in relation.to "Israel" and "Jews."

Understood. All too often Christians have this knee jerk reaction to mentally/ spiritually elevate "jews" because of modern doctrines that make them relevant in the age of the New Covenant, where of course God looks at everyone the same.....sinners or sinners saved by grace.

 

[Boaz1982]

Jews, yes ....the nation of Israel as it exists today, no. I pray for Jews to receive their true Messiah, Jesus Christ. Biblically, Israel is a burdensome stone. God is fully able to deal with Israel. We don't need to be murdering babies and children on their behalf ....no, we don't.

I have read that in Israel, they have not been treating Christians too well recently...even pro-Israel news outlets are covering it now. I have an evangelical friend in Texas who was strongly pro-Israel for years, and now he is becoming much less supportive b/c of both the war and the recent news of Christian mistreatment there.

Surge in attacks on Christians in Israel reported

Christians have been the target of more than 88 incidents of harassment and assault in Israel so far this year, with 2026 on track to surpass last year’s record of 181 incidents, according to the Religious Freedom Data Center.

www.christiandaily.com

Jerusalem Christians not surprised by attack on nun as abuse becomes routine

Priest says once-isolated incidents of ultra-Orthodox people spitting near them have become daily occurrences; 61 physical attacks recorded in 2025

www.timesofisrael.com

Attack on nun in Jerusalem sparks outcry as tensions with Christians mount in Jerusalem - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Hebrew University called the incident “part of a troubling pattern of rising hostility toward the Christian community.”

www.jta.org

I think it is possible to respect and admire the rich culture of the Jewish people without always endorsing a modern Jewish-nationalist state's government officials and foreign policy unconditionally. I mean, Karl Marx, Judas Iscariot, King Herod, the Pharisees and Sadducees, as well as people like Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Bryan Singer, lots of Hollywood people involved in serious allegations/scandals were also of jewish heritage, and we obviously should not be supporting them.....

Now as for Iran...sigh, I don't know. The President seems to go from making deals and negotiating with Islamists to trying to fight them, but also avoids removing their government and military directly or supporting the pahlavis so.....I don't know exactly what he hopes for or wants in the end at this point. Look at how quickly we abandoned the Kurds in Syria just to ally ourselves with ahmad al sharaa, which is still a pretty controversial figure. The US policy in the middle east does seem to be a complicated mess. The war is just not ending any time soon.

 

[Ziggy]

The President seems to go from making deals and negotiating with Islamists to trying to fight them, but also avoids removing their government and military directly or supporting the pahlavis so

The citizens of Iran not the IRGC military have said, they want to be the ones that take their country back.
They don't want other armies other than their own regular army to win.
So President Trump knew that the Persian people of Iran, they have no guns, no way to fight or defend themselves.
So there are a few things going on in Iran.
we don't want them having a nuclear weapon. We don't want them having weapons that they can attack their neighbors with.
So the US took out the manufacturing capabilities of them making new weapons of war. We didn't go after the IRGC in particular.
Israel went after them.
We did take out a couple of the really bad guys like Baghdadi and Soleimani because of the attacks on our military bases and troops.
But we haven't targeted the Regime.
We are giving them options to stand down and walk away and they say ok and then they don't.
So as long as they keep flexing their muscles over the people of Iran and keep shooting at the ships in the Strait of Hormuz, we'll just keep convincing them that the best move is to walk away.
And ultimately the choice for them is to surrender or die.

And it don't look like they want to surrender no matter how many layers of leaders are taken down.
But in the end, it is the Iranian people that have declared that they themselves want to have the final blow and claim the victory.
And that is as it should be.

I hope they succeed.
Hugs

 

[Jack]

I don't think Iran is too happy right now.

 

[Luther7]

I have read that in Israel, they have not been treating Christians too well recently...even pro-Israel news outlets are covering it now. I have an evangelical friend in Texas who was strongly pro-Israel for years, and now he is becoming much less supportive b/c of both the war and the recent news of Christian mistreatment there.

Surge in attacks on Christians in Israel reported

Christians have been the target of more than 88 incidents of harassment and assault in Israel so far this year, with 2026 on track to surpass last year’s record of 181 incidents, according to the Religious Freedom Data Center.

www.christiandaily.com

Jerusalem Christians not surprised by attack on nun as abuse becomes routine

Priest says once-isolated incidents of ultra-Orthodox people spitting near them have become daily occurrences; 61 physical attacks recorded in 2025

www.timesofisrael.com

Attack on nun in Jerusalem sparks outcry as tensions with Christians mount in Jerusalem - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Hebrew University called the incident “part of a troubling pattern of rising hostility toward the Christian community.”

www.jta.org

I think it is possible to respect and admire the rich culture of the Jewish people without always endorsing a modern Jewish-nationalist state's government officials and foreign policy unconditionally. I mean, Karl Marx, Judas Iscariot, King Herod, the Pharisees and Sadducees, as well as people like Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Bryan Singer, lots of Hollywood people involved in serious allegations/scandals were also of jewish heritage, and we obviously should not be supporting them.....

Now as for Iran...sigh, I don't know. The President seems to go from making deals and negotiating with Islamists to trying to fight them, but also avoids removing their government and military directly or supporting the pahlavis so.....I don't know exactly what he hopes for or wants in the end at this point. Look at how quickly we abandoned the Kurds in Syria just to ally ourselves with ahmad al sharaa, which is still a pretty controversial figure. The US policy in the middle east does seem to be a complicated mess. The war is just not ending any time soon.

I know quite a bit about the " jewish" people due to a three year crash course in understanding the " jewish question" , a term that I never knew existed my whole life.

I found it funny ( no offense to you, because you don't realize at this point) when you said:

"I think it is possible to respect and admire the rich culture of the Jewish people without always endorsing a modern Jewish-nationalist state's government..."

And then: " I mean, Karl Marx, Judas Iscariot, King Herod, the Pharisees and Sadducees, as well as people like Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein....."

Do you see the contradiction here? THEY ARE THE RICH CULTURE. They follow or pattern their agenda after the teachings and traditions of modern judaism, which is a completely different religion than that of the Old Testament. They are not the same people as the Israelites in the Bible, if that's where you are getting your " admiration of the rich culture" from.

Christians have a much harder time to realize the nature or " culture " of these people than the rest of humanity because of very effective indoctrination over the last 150 years. Like I've said many times before, without this false narrative of "we're god's chosen people and you have to support us in order to fulfill prophecy", they would not have the genocidal power that they have today.

The jewish people as a diaspora have the talmud as their main authority in all manners of life. Their teachings are in gross opposition to non- jews. To whatever extent a jew follows their religion is irrelevant because they stick together, and you can be darn sure that they will not side with any non- jew. The only exception is if they come out of that " culture" and better yet become Christian.

 

[Luther7]

I don't think Iran is too happy right now.

I hate all the armchair war debates. Many have tried and failed to deal with this ongoing issue. I don't know what the answer is. If you leave your damned because we know the radicals will grow and are willing for a holy war against Isreal and the west. The west has already experienced some of that.

But we are also damned if we try to stop them as this escalates the situation. Its confronting it head on rather than turning a blind eye. So its bound to be unpredictable and conflicting.

I am pretty sure the peace deals being made at the moment involve a number of nations with Pakistan being the go between and Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt as mediators. [1, 2]. I also think NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte supports Trump on this. Though I am highly suspicious of world organisations like the UN and EU.

The point is no one can deny this is a major issue for the world. We have seen the growing terror. We have experience it on home soil in western nations.

The question everyone is arguing over is (how) this should be dealt with ? Not whether or not something needs to be done. We already know something needs to be done because nations are fighting over it. Like I said everyone can be armchair critics. But that does not solve the problem. In fact I think it makes it worse.

Actually Iran was never a threat to our sovereignty. They have been around for thousands of years so they have a rich history and culture, along with a very substantial economy. They are a nation of people that want to exist without the threat of being taken over by jewish influence, like our country.

That's what this war is all about, and what ALL WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE ABOUT. "Greater Israel" (please research it if you don't know already) cannot be obtained with Iran in it's current form of government. They are the last man standing. That is why very sadly our cucked president will be sending ground troops to continue until the regime is changed.

The United States has no reason whatsoever to be inflicting this suffering on the Iranians. We're doing it because our government is controlled by jewish supremecists ( the common term is the Israel lobby). And Christian Zionists allow it so they are just as responsible.

 

[Marymog]

Mary. I'm going to assume you don't know the answer to your own question.

Psssst........ It's the .....Amish....just kidding just kidding. You know who controls everything.

Lol....Those darn Amish

I didn't want to presume that I knew who or what you meant so I gave you the opportunity to articulate your thoughts instead of me presuming your thoughts. I'm going to guess you are talking about Isreal or Jews in general since you are to scared to say it.

Genocide definition: the deliberate and systematic killing or persecution of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:

In 1994 Isreal withdrew from Gaza and forcibly removed Jewish citizens so the Gazans can have their own "country". Of which the PLO and HAMAS systematically destroyed AFTER Isreal left.
In 1997 the population of Gaza was 353,000 and it is now 801,000 people.
Isreal has facilitated and participated in ensuring that truckloads of food enter Gaza.
The IDF drops flyers and make phone calls to areas they are about to bomb so innocent civilians can get out.
No ARAB country will take refuges from Gaza. They learned their lesson after the last time they took Gazan refuges. The refuges started destroying and destabilizing their host country.
Isreal allows Gazans into their country to they can work and survive. If a Jew goes into Gaza they would be killed.

Since the Gazan population is increasing that means there is no genocide occurring. You don't facilitate food delivery and warn the people you are allegedly committing genocide against that you are going to bomb them. I could go on and on to debunk the lies of the men you listen to, but you need to, at some point in your life, do your own research.

In regard to your 'raping our finances' theory did you know that in 2024 Israel was given $6.82 billion in aid and Ukraine got $6.51 billion? So based on your flawed logic Ukraine is 'raping our finances' also. From 2001–2024 Afghanistan received $50 billion more from the US than Isreal did. So, your theory holds no water when one looks at the facts. You failed to do your research before you spouted off your (vailed) lies.

Do your research. Get back with me.

 

[amigo de christo]

It's not like I just make this stuff up out of thin air ok?
That article is from June 2025.
Almost a full year before The US decided it was time they had to go.
Do you not think that a lot of what is happening today hasn't been talked about, discussed with all the other surrounding nations?
What do you think the Abrahamic Accords was all about?
The Board of Peace that was just created earlier this year?
All these nations have been discussing this since Trump's first term.
But because of all the obstructions by those who oppose Peace,
it got put on the back burner through Biden's term.
In that period of time, there was an overflowing scourge sent into America and Europe to prevent them from being able to meet these Nations objectives.
But Now we are back and it's time to settle this.

the abraham peace accords is an abomination to THE HOLY GOD .
But you like many probably see it as a good thing .
I seen ITS INTERRELGIIOUS diaglogue ziggy . And it aint me anyone should be worried about .
ITS THE HOLY GOD one should be concerned with my friend . YOu see , HE SEES an d KNOWS ALL .
He knew that accord was coming and HE knows exactly from whence it sprang .
But as usual those caught up in things of this world and who have their hopes in men , they aint never
gonna see it for what it is or what it was .
Oh but i seen its dialgoue ziggy . AND it be AN ABOMAINTION to the one true HOLY GOD and HIS CHRIST .
And as far as that peace board . You all really THINK it came of trump and probably believed his lie
when he said the UN was aggravated over it and that it was a punch in the face to the UN .
OH NO NO NO ziggy . IT CAME OF THE UN . i been watching them too . well over a decade and a half ago
THEY TOO spoke of such a thing . KINDA ODD is the FACT TRUMP DOING EXACTLY what they said THEY would do .
WELCOME to the outward appearance show . JESUS did warn us , beware of those who come cloathed
as though they are of you , but inwardly , OH ME and OH DEAR they are wolves my friend .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I hate all the armchair war debates

And yet here you are jumping in!

There is no Biblical command to support any state

The devil loves it when people claiming to be Christians refuse to support the descendants of Abraham who are defending themselves against moslem (demonic) nations seeking to murder every Jew they can find... and then murder every Christian they can find.

Actually Iran was never a threat to our sovereignty.

That's what the slow ones keep saying. You know, the slow ones that support murdering babies in the womb, teaching children to become perverts, and ignoring the leaders of Iran who have publicly acknowledged they are continuing to enrich nuclear material so they can build nukes and they are working to develop long range missiles so they can destroy the United States,

The slow ones claimed ol Adolph Hitler could never accomplish what he said he was going to do in his book, and the slow ones are once again telling us these nutjobs saying they are going to nuke Israel and the US will never be able to do it so only the slow ones are listening to the slow ones this time around.

They are a nation of people that want to exist without the threat of being taken over by jewish influence, like our country.

They are msolems who believe their "god" has commanded them to murder all Jews and all Christians.

Ignorance of islam leads people to become one of the slow ones.

That is why very sadly our cucked president will be sending ground troops to continue until the regime is changed.

Iran's leader ship are hard core moslems hell bent on murdering all Christians and Jews

They are fundamentalists who actually believe the writing of their false god, satan. (they call him allah)

The United States has no reason whatsoever to be inflicting this suffering on the Iranians.

We know how you liberals want to handle Iran... you people want to wait until the first American city gets nuked by Iran and then you people will write a "sternly worded letter" to Iran's leadership asking them to please not nuke any more of our cities... and then the liberals will put a PS down at the end... "but, if you have to nuke us then we understand because we have been really bad people and we deserve to be obliterated"

This might be why the US is not a big player in endtimes prophecy... the liberals get control of the Presidency and the liberal POTUS stands down and let's Iran nuke the US all because liberals despise the US and their handlers at the CCP tell them to not defend the nation and allow Iran to nuke us.

I wouldn't be surprised if a liberal President actually sent some of our nuke to Iran along with training on how to use them so they can have a way to quickly nuke the US. Sounds like something the liberals would do, especially since they are being told what to do by the CCP

because our government is controlled by jewish supremecists ( the common term is the Israel lobby). And Christian Zionists allow it so they are just as responsible.

That's what all the racist Jew haters keep falsely claiming.

 

[Luther7]

Lol....Those darn Amish

I didn't want to presume that I knew who or what you meant so I gave you the opportunity to articulate your thoughts instead of me presuming your thoughts. I'm going to guess you are talking about Isreal or Jews in general since you are to scared to say it.

Genocide definition: the deliberate and systematic killing or persecution of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:

In 1994 Isreal withdrew from Gaza and forcibly removed Jewish citizens so the Gazans can have their own "country". Of which the PLO and HAMAS systematically destroyed AFTER Isreal left.
In 1997 the population of Gaza was 353,000 and it is now 801,000 people.
Isreal has facilitated and participated in ensuring that truckloads of food enter Gaza.
The IDF drops flyers and make phone calls to areas they are about to bomb so innocent civilians can get out.
No ARAB country will take refuges from Gaza. They learned their lesson after the last time they took Gazan refuges. The refuges started destroying and destabilizing their host country.
Isreal allows Gazans into their country to they can work and survive. If a Jew goes into Gaza they would be killed.

Since the Gazan population is increasing that means there is no genocide occurring. You don't facilitate food delivery and warn the people you are allegedly committing genocide against that you are going to bomb them. I could go on and on to debunk the lies of the men you listen to, but you need to, at some point in your life, do your own research.

In regard to your 'raping our finances' theory did you know that in 2024 Israel was given $6.82 billion in aid and Ukraine got $6.51 billion? So based on your flawed logic Ukraine is 'raping our finances' also. From 2001–2024 Afghanistan received $50 billion more from the US than Isreal did. So, your theory holds no water when one looks at the facts. You failed to do your research before you spouted off your (vailed) lies.

Do your research. Get back with me.

(This excerpt is from Google):

The United States is Israel's primary weapons supplier, providing nearly \(\$4\) billion in baseline annual military aid. Since the start of the regional conflicts, this flow has surged into tens of billions in approved sales and deliveries, encompassing tens of thousands of bombs, missiles, artillery shells, and advanced fighter jets.The U.S. supplies these weapons through baseline funding and wartime emergency packages:Annual Military Aid: Under a 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) valid through 2028, the U.S. commits \(\$3.8\) billion annually. This includes \(\$3.3\) billion for Foreign Military Financing (to purchase U.S. weapons) and \(\$500\) million for joint missile defense programs like the Iron Dome.Wartime Shipments & Equipment: Since October 2023, the U.S. has delivered over 90,000 tons of arms and military equipment. The total financial value of this surge exceeds \(\$20\) billion, with weapons spanning 2,000-pound bunker-buster bombs, precision-guided munitions, and Apache helicopters.Long-Term Arms Deals: The U.S. has approved massive multi-billion dollar long-term arms sales that include dozens of F-15 fighter jets and heavy munitions, with staggered deliveries extending into 2029.

We do this for no other country on the face of the earth....never to a high degree as this. We could literally be shorting ourselves militarily and soon there will be troops on the ground in Iran for the sake of Israel's " Greater Israel" in which Iran is the last hurdle. Once they are neutralized you will see how quickly they move forward with obtaining massive chunks of the Middle East.

No other nation of people have had such control over all of our institutions for at least the last 100 years. Oh I'm sure this didn't make it on your radar either:

Section 224 (now largely designated as Section 219) of the Fiscal Year 2027 House National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is a highly debated legislative provision aiming to formally synchronize U.S. and Israeli military and technology integration.The proposal would create a dedicated executive agent position within the Department of Defense to streamline joint development of emerging military technologies.

So in other words we will no longer be our own military either. All of Congress is bought. Soon any criticism of Israel or joos will come with censorship, character assassination and perhaps as in other countries, jail time. So please, don't try to make some kind of moral equivalent of other countries with them when you have no idea of what they have done to this country and the world for that matter.

 

[Jack]

Actually Iran was never a threat to our sovereignty. They have been around for thousands of years so they have a rich history and culture, along with a very substantial economy. They are a nation of people that want to exist without the threat of being taken over by jewish influence, like our country.

That's what this war is all about, and what ALL WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE ABOUT. "Greater Israel" (please research it if you don't know already) cannot be obtained with Iran in it's current form of government. They are the last man standing. That is why very sadly our cucked president will be sending ground troops to continue until the regime is changed.

The United States has no reason whatsoever to be inflicting this suffering on the Iranians. We're doing it because our government is controlled by jewish supremecists ( the common term is the Israel lobby). And Christian Zionists allow it so they are just as responsible.

Iran HATES God of the Christian Bible, and Israel, the Land of the Bible. But God has sent help for Israel! It's in the news.

 

[Ziggy]

Iran HATES God of the Christian Bible, and Israel, the Land of the Bible. But God has sent help for Israel! It's in the news.

The people of Iran, the Persians, they lived side by side with Israel long before the Ayatollah got in. Lot of Christians there before they got killed for protesting.
It's not the people, it's the IRGC regime.
I know something is happening tonight, but I haven't gone looking.
I know it's not good for them.
Pray for the people in Iran. They just want to have their country back and be free from Islamic rule.

Hugs