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Shan Missions

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You may have seen people fallen down to the ground when preacher or pastor or evangelist touches their fore head. They call it "Slain in the Spirit".Is it really by the Holy Spirit? Or by Evil Spirit?Is it a fake?I can't see anywhere in the Bible telling us about people being slained by the Holy Spirit.What do you think?I am a learner.Thanks.
 

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To slay means to kill. I don't think your spirit can be slain. Our Lord doesn't roam about looking for people to touch and lay low. That said, the priests in Solomon's day couldn't stand to minister when God filled the house of the Lord in 1 Kings 8:10-11. Evidently they were incapacitated to some extent. One thing is for sure, when the manifest presence of God occures flesh can't stand.
 

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My mom thinks this is the Holy Spirit and maybe every fundamentalist christian. However I think this is the spirit of the devil. Remember who means harm. I was watching youtube and there was a lady holding a baby that was slain and it looked very dangerous to that baby. I don't think God would attack his people like that. The spirit world is very real and that's why when we contact we just may get an answer better be sure we are contacting the right side though. If we command God's Spirit like it's ours to move or control then we are inviting dark spirits to come and play. This is my personal revelation since I have encountered real demons who torment me but God protects me more and more So I know since the dark spirits have given me suicidal visions and sinful dreams when I pray they go away or when I use Yashua's name so therefor my conclusion is there is a being more powerful than they and he is Christ the Lord in the Father Yahweh.Remember the Holy Spirit is a spirit of self-control not falling on the floor.Stay in the faith and seek the truth in all things may you be blessed by the Lord Amen.
 

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I am leary of some of these manifestations, because I ve seen people fake it and i have seen people go out with out any choice in the matter. either way I dont see how satan would show up where Jesus is being preached. A house divided falls
 

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experience tells me that falling out under some kind of power, is of God, I have been on both sides of it, I have laid my hands on someone and the power of God went down my arm, into my hand then into people and they fell out under that power and got up healed. Other times some have been baptised in the Holy Ghost. If people get heald and filled with the Holy Ghost, it must be God.I have felt that power go into me and fell out under the power as well, it fells good.Don't knock it, You might be mocking God's Anointing. Try it your self.
 

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I do believe in manifestations, but I have seen so many churches try to force the Spirit and you cant do that.
 

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You may have seen people fallen down to the ground when preacher or pastor or evangelist touches their fore head. They call it "Slain in the Spirit".Is it really by the Holy Spirit? Or by Evil Spirit?Is it a fake?I can't see anywhere in the Bible telling us about people being slained by the Holy Spirit.What do you think?I am a learner.Thanks.
Ezekiel 1:28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of One That spake.2:1. And He said unto me, "Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee."2.And the spirit entered into me when He spake unto me and set me upon my feet, that I heard Him That spake unto me.Daniel 8:17 So he came near where I stood; and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, 'Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.'18.Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground; but he touched me, and set me upright.When I first began to search (when I was a "learner") I went to a church with friends where the things you are asking about were supposed to happen. I wanted it to happen, I couldn't wait for it to happen........it didn't. It did to others around me but not to my friend or to me. So, I don't know what to tell you. Are some more suggestive than others, are some nearer to God than others, are some so desirous of being "in the spirit" that they would actually fake the event, does it truly happen? I don't know.I do know from the above verses that it doesn't seem to be what God wants and I also know that when I was a child I watched a television program with an evangelist. I believe her name was Katheryn Culman? I saw people going to the stage and when she touched them they would fall over. I watched the spectacle not knowing what to think and then saw a middle aged lady "fall over" but noticed that when she hit the floor she reached up and adjusted her wig! :naughty:I have watched Benny Hinn and others of his ilk and am astounded that a lightning bolt doesn't come through the roof and zap his perfectly combed hair. He is a farce, he and the others that yell, dance and scream all the while pushing people over with one hand and emptying their pockets with the other.....disgusting!You must make your own mind up but as far as my .02 cents.....it isn't of God.........Whirlwind
 

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I am leary of some of these manifestations, because I ve seen people fake it and i have seen people go out with out any choice in the matter. either way I dont see how satan would show up where Jesus is being preached. A house divided falls
I agree Crooner. The thing is, was the true Jesus being preached there? There are many churches that simply "play church." One of the ways to tell us how much of our Father's Word are you hearing? If it is just one or two lines of scripture.....that isn't His purpose in gathering His children together.What is so terribly sad about that is the wonderful people filling the church. They believe they are learning about God and in truth they are not. The one that comes to mind is Joel Osteen. When I first began to search I loved his program and thought how terrific and gentle he was. Before too long I began to realize it was all fluff. I didn't learn anything about our Father. I felt good but I didn't learn anything of depth. Remember what we are warned of:Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:That is happening now in the very places we should hear His Word. .......Whirlwind
 
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Again, I try not to go with the flow of modern orthodoxy, since I have no other term for it I believe that slain in the spirit is when you're filled with Ruach HaKodesh(Holy Ghost) and your flesh cannot Stand it REMEMBER ACTS 9:3-43. And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:4. And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? See this is why I hate doctrine of men, because it's easy to call one's experience holy, then another of the Devil.I have experienced this, I did not fall, but my hands and my legs shake. It's not a sensation I look for it's complete surrender to Yeshua HaMashiach.
 

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I quote Pastor Jim Feeney, Ph.D. of Pentecostal wrote: (http://www.jimfeeney.org/fallingoutslaininSpirit.html)•• In the 66 books of the Bible, there is not one instance of a man or woman MINISTERING this experience to someone else. No prayer lines to receive the experience! No pushers! No catchers!•• JESUS is not recorded as ever ministering this in the Gospels. What’s wrong? Did Jesus lack sufficient “anointing”? I pose that ludicrous question because some of the leaders of this movement proclaim that people fall in the presence of the leader’s anointing. That is preposterous when compared with the absence of these manifestations in the presence of the Bible's most anointed Man — Jesus Christ!•• This never occurred in the biblically recorded ministries of the great apostles Peter and Paul — or of any other apostles, either!•• In the Bible, those who fell, fell before the LORD, not man! Paul fell before Jesus. John on the Island of Patmos fell before the glorious Lord Jesus. No man pushed them ... no man prayed for them ... no one stood behind to catch them.•• In Revelation 1:17-19, John fell before the resurrected, glorified Jesus. Jesus got John right UP and got him busy writing down the Revelation. John was lucid, alert, awake. Jesus didn’t leave John lying down on the ground.•• Search the Scriptures. Again and again, people fell down before the Lord, not man; usually face forward; often voluntarily; and usually to worship.• 2 Chronicles. 20:18 “Jehoshaphat bowed with his face to the ground, and all the people...fell down in worship before the Lord.”• Ezekiel 3:23-24 “...the glory of the Lord was standing there...and I fell facedown. Then the Spirit came into me and raised me to my feet.” The Spirit lifted him up from the ground, rather than knocking him down to the ground!• 1 Corinthians 14:24-25 “...convinced that he is a sinner.... So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, ‘God is really among you.’” = conviction of sin and a voluntary prostration before God, still in full control of his faculties.•• The common denominator was: whether voluntary or involuntary falling, it was before God, not man. And no man or woman ministered the experience to others anywhere in the entire Bible.•• A note of caution to those who misunderstand John 18:6 — When Jesus said to the soldiers in Gethsemane, “I am He,” it says “THEY drew back and fell to the ground.” They were not overcome by the Spirit!
 

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Shan Missions;30461]I quote Pastor Jim Feeney said:
http://www.jimfeeney.org/fallingoutslaininSpirit.html[/url])I am very surprised Shan Missions. I don't know a great deal about different religions but if I guessed I would have attributed the "being slain in the spirit" to the Pentecostal faith. I thank Pastor Feeney for pointing out the Biblical stance on this and I thank you for bringing it to our attention. :study:........Whirlwind
 

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I don have the gift of toungues, nor have been slain in the spirit. I am totally open to what ever God wants to do with me. I will accept any gift. I dont get this debate.If some people here can believe the Gen 1,2 earth age concept you would think they could be a little more open to the possibilities that all gifts are not from Satan. It seems the very thing that we are against, organized religion, we are becoming guilty of here.I am not into tounges all that much, but I know great christians who have that gift. They dont have any advantage over any other christian. I wonder if some people are threatend because they dont have the gift. I have seen kids get it. I just feel some potiential legalism going on. Sorry but this debate really makes me wonder.
 

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You may have seen people fallen down to the ground when preacher or pastor or evangelist touches their fore head. They call it "Slain in the Spirit".Is it really by the Holy Spirit? Or by Evil Spirit?Is it a fake?I can't see anywhere in the Bible telling us about people being slained by the Holy Spirit.What do you think?I am a learner.Thanks.
I believe its fake. I think its a form of hypnosis or suggestion.We had such an evangelist come to our church and asked people to come forward. People were falling all over the place! I couldn't believe my eyes. I just walked out in disgust. One man who was on crutches fell over and then could walk again, so it was said. Two weeks later he was on crutches again. When my God heals, He heals right, not like that. But a stage hypnotist can make many (gullible) people do strange, even almost supernatural things because they believe the suggestion is true. I could never imagine myself that way, but then again, maybe that's why I'm so analytical.The evangelist at our church was a false prophet IMO. In addition, as many times as I read the Bible, I do not find any Scripture that talks about being "slain in the Spirit".
 

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Does God and the Holy Spirit come to organised events specifically to make people fall down? What purpose is achieved here? Would it not be better for the unsaved rather than a congregation of frequent church goers? Did Jesus teach us or the disciples to slay people? I think this is one of the "shame" we have to live with as a Christian when false prophets perform such acts in the name of Jesus and our Lord God.Look into the Bible and then accept whatever you feel is right for you to accept.Be Blessed Always.
 
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I am leery of some of these manifestations, because I’ve seen people fake it and I have seen people go out with out any choice in the matter. either way I don’t see how Satan would show up where Jesus is being preached. A house divided falls
I've had it done to me and it didn't work, I felt like if it was of God and this guy was walking around just to slay people then it should have worked on me, but I cannot say for certain because it could have had something to do with me. I did not like this church, I visited it once and I am convinced that this guy was a false prophet and a magician at best.I think it is very wise what a lot of you have said concerning this. I feel personally that this is not of God, though it is not beyond God to do this, someone clarified nicely by asking what’s the point. I couldn’t agree more, I’ve never known of any instance in which God has appeared just to have us bow in His presence or because of it, and this is not even at His presence - not manifested directly, but through another and that other not being Christ. Even in the Old Testament and New Testament when those in His presence dropped as dead before Him, it was never for this purpose alone. There was always something really important to tell them, or a vision to give, a message, something, anything.Now in the New Testament the Holy Spirit through Peter did kill two people that tested the Holy Spirit concerning mammon. Oh and yes they were killed, to the point of death, and were carried out buy some of the disciples and buried. Wow, try explaining that one today…“it was God”. I think that there are some instances that could be of God concerning this, but that you would not see it like we have witnessed in the past or even today. I saw that TV show as well where that lady adjusted her wig after being slain:“Oh my! God has just slain me in the Holy Spirit; I am as dead before His majesty and power filled with…wait a sec, did my wig just fall off?, one sec. sorry God, one moment there, oh my this is embarrassing, just a minute here, my bad, okay got it…continue in Your awesome and perfect power Lord”.Erm…wait a tick. I don’t think so. Something about that just doesn’t swoon right to me.I have been under Hypnosis, for a sliver of a second, but I have witnessed others under it for much longer. From my observations I can tell you that those I witnessed slain in the spirit and those hypnotized by a magician were under the same kind of spirit. I can know full well and for certain; as cool as a magician may be, he was no one to be known by Christ at least in the power of his performance.The whole time with this minister, as well as I can remember was this climatic sermon, reminding me of the hypnotist in spirit, during which it seemed to culminate at the end of people coming up to the stage already under the impression of what might take place. They had already given their mindset over to this anxiety. It probably didn’t work on me because I didn’t believe.To be completely discerning of the manner it is fair to say that Christ did not perform, was not able to perform, certain miracles in which there was unbelief concerning the participants. It’s like God said I want to heal you, but guess what? You have to want it and believe it too – I’ll bridge the gap, but this is going to have to be a joint effort. How often did Christ say because of “your faith” or “your faith has…”?I say this to be prudent and assume I do not know all the workings of God. I am still but a servant and a disobedient one at that. To His friends, Christ will hide nothing and reveal all through the Holy Spirit. God does not give partially or to partiality, but to all who ask and believe He gives His Spirit freely. Another thing, the God I know; if he heals you – it’s done, amen. You probably don’t need to go get a second opinion. He is THEE GOD versus this kind of…a…god.These temp. heals mentioned performed by such cloaked magicians are doing more damage then good. People are going out on suggestion of though or worse have taken on something other than the Holy Spirit – and in false faith are walking, only to return latter to their original ailment. What glory is to God to slay a cripple with the Holy Spirit, have others see him walk only to return later under the care of earthly physicians?Now if the healing is real, it could be of God. BUT don't be deceived. And you shall know them buy there fruits. Someone else already covered this: listen to how much of the word is being taught from that church or form the lips of the guest speaker or from anyone there for that matter. Don’t just believe what you see. Chances are if you are getting only little suckles of milk that the pastors there are not even discerning enough to make a distinction. I think the guy that I saw was a guest speaker/preacher/FALSE prophet.(crooner;30364)
…Either way I don’t see how Satan would show up where Jesus is being preached. A house divided falls
Where do you guys think Satan hangs out? You think he possibly just chills out with his posse at the church of Satan? No he is in our churches, under all denominations, because many have fallen away from the Word. Satan’s house is not divided they are just blind and confused, calling themselves Christians. They worship the spirit of the antichrist and don’t even know it professing Jesus as Lord, but in Truth and in Spirit they do not know our God who is Truth and Spirit. I hope you do. It's not like being lied to, it's like being led to your death.Become spiritual to discern those things which are spiritual. Trust Jesus. You will have no false prophet to fear only the Lord thy God.
 

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Hammer it sounds like you have lost your hope! Satan is like a little chawawa when you look at him strait on he screem and flees.
 
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Hammer it sounds like you have lost your hope! Satan is like a little chawawa when you look at him strait on he screem and flees.
I don't give credence to Satan, but the last thing I have done is lost hope. Hope is my greatest virtue even to my detriment. I am hopeful often over things I should not be, unrealistically. It's just the way I am. If my faith could match half my hope then in love I might truly have something. But truly even these are the words of a babe in Christ. Christ has me and all is sufficient.But do not be fooled. If Christ warned even His apostles of the things which were to come and the false prophets how much less of a concern is this to be to us? I do not take lightly the graveness of the matters at hand, but I believe and have hope in all things concerning Christ.Part of that hope is that I will have the faith to trust in Him those things He shows me concerning deception and that I will be true to His revelation and not flee in time of trouble. It is my sincere hope for you that you may be strengthened in Christ and not be deceived to the devices of Satan and the many false prophets teaching today. To render Satan a fleeing half rat half dog pursed size wimp does not do justice to God and the Hell fire that He seeks to save us from.
 

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Part of that hope is that I will have the faith to trust in Him those things He shows me concerning deception and that I will be true to His revelation and not flee in time of trouble. It is my sincere hope for you that you may be strengthened in Christ and not be deceived to the devices of Satan and the many false prophets teaching today. To render Satan a fleeing half rat half dog pursed size wimp does not do justice to God and the Hell fire that He seeks to save us from.LOLI am not in to signs and wonders,but they do exist today. My concern is not judging them so much. I just cant see satan or his angels hanging around sermons of Jesus Christwhere praise and worship occur. I know he does influence in other ways.
 
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I am not in to signs and wonders,but they do exist today. My concern is not judging them so much. I just cant see Satan or his angels hanging around sermons of Jesus Christwhere praise and worship occur. I know he does influence in other ways.
First, there is no degree to judging, a tree is good or a tree is bad and you will know them buy their fruits. Second, God doesn't care what your flesh is into, He is going right on ahead with His plan and the delusions He will choose for this wicked generation will be the ones He chooses.Third, I am not talking about sings and wonders. I think you need to really re-read what was written.Mathew Chapter 7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.14 "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.16 "You will know them buy their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?17 "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.18 "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.20 "Therefore by their fruits you will know them.21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord', shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.22 "Many will say to Me in that day,'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'Luke Chapter 13:24 "Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.25 "When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, ' I do not know you, where you are from,'My friends do not be lead astray with all the cotton candy ministries being preached today. Lukewarm is of the evil one. There are many deceivers in the land and Christ noted it worthy that we should be warned of them. Please head His warnings. They are there because He loves you.