The sin that dwells in us....
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Waiting on him
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John 6:63 KJV
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
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[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
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Hi marks, I hope all things are Christ in and with you. Thanks for sharing and having such a heart after the things of God...If I might put forth a thought concerning your question..I believe Paul said “with the mind I serve the law of God” because the “willingness was in him.” His mind and will wanted to serve God, but he saw another law at work in his members....Anyways just a thought.
May God continue to bless you as He forms Himself in you.
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CharismaticLady
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But he was freed from the law of sin and death, and was no longer in his flesh, but in the Spirit.
Waiting on him
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CharismaticLady
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No, I was talking to you. Weren't you talking about Paul and you said, Paul fully understood that in his flesh there was nothing good.
CharismaticLady
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That is exactly right. Sin was in his members before Christ. 1 John 3:5 Christ was manifest to take away our sin, and in Him there is no sin.
Waiting on him
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Sorry I’m to tired to go through this whole I’m sinless debate, I truly hope this is the case for you.
CharismaticLady
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Jesus came to make us sinless. Did He succeed? Most think not. I believe He succeeded in giving us everything we need through the Spirit.
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CharismaticLady
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In the sense it is talking about, yes. Our nature is in our mind. Our nature is our flesh. There are two meanings for flesh. nature and body
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I had to chew on this a bit to carry the thought out....To which I say I agree, for the chewing brought forth the why question...
Be blessed and thanks for the thought provoking comment...
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Be blessed as we answer the call of our hearts to Him...
In Christ, Not me
Waiting on him
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Waiting on him
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You know what, change that, I’ll have to give more thought, He tells us to have the mind renewed.
Waiting on him
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So, I believe the words heart and mind are somewhat interchangeable. He says I’ll put a heart of flesh in them, why would he refer to it as flesh?
CharismaticLady
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Personally, I believe He writes His laws on our conscience.
1 John 3:21-24
21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
In Heaven, once we are freed from sin and given a new body, what will keep us from sinning again?
In other words, satan was created perfect, yet fell. Adam and Eve were created perfect, yet fell. What will insure that we in Heaven will never have thought that was contrary to the will of God? That did not result in a sin?
Stranger
In other words, satan was created perfect, yet fell. Adam and Eve were created perfect, yet fell. What will insure that we in Heaven will never have thought that was contrary to the will of God? That did not result in a sin?
Stranger
Very interesting thought...I feel as in scripture where is says;
Deuteronomy 30:19 (NASB)
“I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,
I feel all of God’s sentient creatures have been given the same choice, life or death, blessing or a curse...Once this choice has been made, they can only have what that choice has in itself.. If they choose life, they can and will find life as life is in itself. If they choose death they can, and will find death as death is it itself....For as sentient beings, all beings are free to choose their own nature’s. But for a sentient being to be free as freedom is in itself, there are only two possible nature’s for a free sentient being. A good or a bad nature. I feel God has put that choice before all His sentient being creatures and they can have whichever they choose...But once this choice is made they can only find that choice as that choice is.. Fire or water, good or evil the choice is the creatures...Revealed to man as the Divine nature which nature sins not to all eternity for it is God’s nature... Now the Angels that chose not to fall, if they are to have a degree of the Divine nature I can not say, but God is Holy, Righteous and Good, so I’m sure all will be done as God’s nature is, righteously.
Thanks for the interesting thought, Not me
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