Is Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday.

Paul Christensen said:

If there was no punctuation, it could be read both ways, whichever suits your personal theology. If you don't believe that Jesus and the criminal went to Paradise the day that they died, then you will but the comma after the today. If you believe that they did, you will put the comma after "thee".

I probably put the comma in the wrong place contrary to my personal belief that Jesus and the criminal went to Paradise that very day they died.

Of course, those who don't believe that Jesus was telling the truth when He said, "It is finished" and that for some unknown and unBiblical reason He had to undergo some sort of torture from the devil after taking on Himself the whole wrath of God in the three hours He hung on the cross, then one would put the comma after "today", making it appear that they would be together in Paradise at some future time after Jesus went through His extra torture by the devil in hell.

It is interesting that the difference between truth and heresy/blasphemy consists in the placement of a comma!

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Thanks for your A+ post— from a logical point of view, all depending on the meaning one give to the concepts of 'Paradise' and 'Kingdom'.
In Luke 23:42 the one crucified malefactor said to Jesus, "remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom", and in verse 43 Jesus had answered him, "Today shalt thou be, with Me in paradise."
The conclusion is "kingdom" and "paradise" are synonymous.
Certain other facts are also pertinent about the "kingdom".
(LP - Last Passover of Jesus)
Kingdom

MT 10 LP 1 MK 2 LP 0 LK 5 LP 3 JH 0 OT many

Kingdom of My Father

MT 1 LP 1 MK 0 LK 0 JH 0 OT 0

Kingdom of God

MT 5 LP 0 MK 11 LP 2 LK 28 LP 4 JH 3 LP 0 OT 0

Kingdom of Heaven

MT 29 LP 0 MK 0 LP 0 LK 0 LP 0 JH 0 LP 0 OT 0

The use of the word "kingdom" as in this summary, shows,
exclusive NT use
by Jesus virtually exclusively
the most poignant instance of its use is a LP incidence
which Jesus used with clear reference to when and how He would SUFFER and DIE.

These truths force me to believe Jesus' entering into LP Suffering was his Entering into "Paradise" onto the Battlefield in "the Kingdom of My Father".

So as they were speaking to each other, Jesus assured the thief on the cross that he would "be with Me", Jesus, IN HIS SUFFERING AND DEATH, "TODAY", and that he would that very day be saved eternally.

101G said:

first thanks for the reply, second no need for all those scriptures, which we all know. but the simple question I asked was this, "did our Lord rise on the day which you call sunday, a simple yes or no is required. if yes post your scripture to that fact.

remember we all know that he rose on the THIRD day, but as said, did he rise on the day you call sunday?

Looking to hear from you.

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Sorry that it's me you're hearing from, but here's your full answer.

Matthew 27:62 to 28:4, "The day which is after the Preparation (the day after Friday is the Sabbath) the Jews and the Romans, because "while He lived He said He would rise the third day sealed the door-stone … BUT," despite, "Late the Sabbath mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week, the angel cast the stone away from the tomb" and “Christ rose from the dead the third day according to the Scriptures”, date of the year, “the sixteenth day of the First Month the Sanctuary was cleansed”, “First Sheaf Offering before the Lord WAVED HIGH .. THAT BONE-ESSENTIAL DAY” .. “first day count to the fiftieth day”.

All the Bible’s Time-lines—

1) of the week,
2) of the month,
3) of the season / year,
4) of the Passover of Yahweh,
5) of the days to Pentecost,
6) of the patriarchal BONE-DAY covenant,
7) of the creation and fall Promise and Type—

COINCIDING, crossing and merging centre-true
in Christ Raised from the dead “ON THE SABBATH”.

Cooper said:

God gave us a NEW covenant that REPLACED the old covenant, marked by ressurection SUNDAY and a NEW life with the SAVIOUR of the world.
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...smile ... you're on camera...

GerhardEbersoehn said:

Sorry that it's me you're hearing from, but here's your full answer.

Matthew 27:62 to 28:4, "The day which is after the Preparation (the day after Friday is the Sabbath) the Jews and the Romans, because "while He lived He said He would rise the third day sealed the door-stone … BUT," despite, "Late the Sabbath mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week, the angel cast the stone away from the tomb" and “Christ rose from the dead the third day according to the Scriptures”, date of the year, “the sixteenth day of the First Month the Sanctuary was cleansed”, “First Sheaf Offering before the Lord WAVED HIGH .. THAT BONE-ESSENTIAL DAY” .. “first day count to the fiftieth day”.

All the Bible’s Time-lines—

1) of the week,
2) of the month,
3) of the season / year,
4) of the Passover of Yahweh,
5) of the days to Pentecost,
6) of the patriarchal BONE-DAY covenant,
7) of the creation and fall Promise and Type—

COINCIDING, crossing and merging centre-true
in Christ Raised from the dead “ON THE SABBATH”.

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before the answer come, you said, "BUT," despite, "Late the Sabbath mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week, the angel cast the stone away from the tomb". Which means he was crucified on what day?

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101G said:

first thanks for the reply, second no need for all those scriptures, which we all know. but the simple question I asked was this, "did our Lord rise on the day which you call sunday, a simple yes or no is required. if yes post your scripture to that fact.

remember we all know that he rose on the THIRD day, but as said, did he rise on the day you call sunday?

Looking to hear from you.

PICJAG.

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Google it.
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Cooper said:

Google it.
jesus rose on the first day of the week at DuckDuckGo
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Smile, lol, NOW read Mark 16:1 before you get to verse 9...

now quit listing to the duck... quack...... (smile). and listen to the word of God, ok.

Good try, but no cigar.

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GerhardEbersoehn said:

Amen ... and the 18 hours before from at the table "and it was evening" through Gethsemane and the trial "and it was morning" until He hung on the cross from the third to the ninth hour"— mid-afternoon.

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The great news for us is that in the three hours He hung on the cross, He paid the full debt for our sin, so that when we come to judgment and are found guilty, which will happen, the Judge will set us free because the penalty has already been paid - by our Saviour, Jesus Christ. This takes away our fear of death and of the Judgment. Paul says that because of our faith and trust in Christ, we will be confident in the Judgment, that what we have committed to the Lord, He will honour on that great Day.

101G said:

Smile, lol, NOW read Mark 16:1 before you get to verse 9...

now quit listing to the duck... quack...... (smile). and listen to the word of God, ok.

Good try, but no cigar.

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What about verse 9? It tells us Jesus rose the day after the Jewish Sabath, on the First day of the week.
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Jennifer Augustine said:

Don't judge me you don't know little Israel Isaiah 43

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I am not judging you at all. The important thing is that we all have to die, and we don't know when that will be. The bottom line is not how long Jesus spent in the tomb, but that He paid our debt of sin to God, and although we are going to stand before Him in the Judgment and be found guilty, because none of us have ever been able to keep the Ten Commandments, if we have put our faith and trust in Christ, we will be set free from the penalty of our sinfulness because Jesus will tell the Father, "I paid the debt", and so the Judge will say, "Enter into the joys of your Lord!"

If you are not born again, and have "put on" Christ as one who puts on a parachute before jumping out of an airplane, then the Judgment may not go well for you. It is not me saying it - it is the Bible (John 3:3), and I am not judging you if you feel you are being judged. It may be your own conscience that is informing you of sin, righteousness, and judgment to come.

But if you know that you are born again of the Spirit of God, then there is no issue, is there?

@Cooper, no harm intebted, you might want to write to the duck and tell them to get it right. let them know about Mark 16:1

Now to all those who still believe in the good friday crucifixion and the sunday morning rising of our Lord, you have been duped twice .... in the same week ... but that's ok, don't feel like the Lone Ranger, there are Millions more that have been duped by the double tongue also.

so as the british say, keep an upper stiff lip and a stern cheek.

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101G said:

@Cooper, no harm intebted, you might want to write to the duck and tell them to get it right. let them know about Mark 16:1

Now to all those who still believe in the good friday crucifixion and the sunday morning rising of our Lord, you have been duped twice .... in the same week ... but that's ok, don't feel like the Lone Ranger, there are Millions more that have been duped by the double tongue also.

so as the british say, keep an upper stiff lip and a stern cheek.

PICJAG.

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Have you read #228?
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Cooper said:

What about verse 9? It tells us Jesus rose the day after the Jewish Sabath, on the First day of the week.
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please read the scripture carefully, Mark 16:9 "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils".

did he rise "ON" the first day of the week? or was he already risen, and "APPEARED" to Mary Magdalene on the first day of the week.

so read it again, ok....

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Cooper said:

What about verse 9? It tells us Jesus rose the day after the Jewish Sabath, on the First day of the week.
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do it really say that? or was he already risen, now see Post #232...

ONE MUST READ WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT....... because the sabbath has already past which means he had alrready risen.

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101G said:

please read the scripture carefully, Mark 16:9 "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils".

did he rise "ON" the first day of the week? or was he already risen, and "APPEARED" to Mary Magdalene on the first day of the week.

so read it again, ok....

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Jesus rose early on the First day of the week.
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now the last clue for you all... Mark 16:2 "And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Mark 16:3 "And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
Mark 16:4 "And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great".

he had already risen before the sun came up and before the first day started. well? how hard is that to understand.

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Cooper said:

Jesus rose early on the First day of the week.
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see post above #235.do you see it now? listen I understand your frustration, you been lie to for so long until when the truth come you cannot believe it, even when it is written in the bible. at least learin by trial and error. STOP and think, if the tomb was already empty before they came, before sun rise, what do that mean? he was already arisen. that's not hard to grasp. now what you must count and "UNDERSTAND" when he was crucified. and please get that good friday and that late thursday out of your minds.
now I'll help you out once more, there was two sabbath in the week when our Lord was crucified, Passover, and the 7th day sabbath. now go from there.

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RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald said:

Doesn't matter. That which was sealed in old is unsealed in new. That which was bound in old was freed in new. The things bound in the practices of the Old are now free in the new, which includes that which made the Sabbath the Sabbath. So it no longer possesses what made it special for like the curtain it was torn that day and the Spirit of God left. So stop bickering about fruitless matters.

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He/She who dismisses the Ten Commandments as a relic of the past and says it is no longer binding does not understand the fundamental principles of the Plan of Redemption ie, it is because God's Law is immovable and unchangeable that Jesus suffered as he did.

Their muddled imagination has cobbled an understanding together which gives them permission to continue in breaking its precepts with imagined impunity although they do not admit this outwardly.

They dismiss the words of scripture which state that breaking one constitutes breaking them all. James 2:10

They do not understand the far reaching claims of God's Law and that it will be the standard by which every man is judged. They do not understand that the Sabbath Commandment is a regular reoccurring visible sign. Ezekiel 20:12

They do not understand that this Commandment embodies his seal. They have forgotten the many scriptures that clearly state that it will be by our works that we are judged.

They presume upon God's Mercy all the while continuing to justify violating his Commands. There is a form of Godliness but the denial of its power....the power to do God's bidding. 2 Timothy 3:5

They do not understand what righteousness consists of.

They do not understand that the manifestation of God's Spirit is the the desire, the willingness and the ability to keep his Commandments. 1 John 5:2-3

They are indifferent to the fact that it was Lucifer who set himself up against God's Commandments (Isaiah 14:12-15) and has laid plans to deceive the peoples by getting them to agree that God's Laws are restrictive and oppressive.....they are unaware that by excusing them, by circumventing them, and by dismissing them they are falling into the net that Lucifer has cleverly laid for their destruction.

When Balaam could not curse Israel overtly he resorted to undermining God's protection by getting them to break his Law.....he did it by appealing to their lust. Read the story in Numbers 22-25.

101G said:

see post above #235.do you see it now? listen I understand your frustration, you been lie to for so long until when the truth come you cannot believe it, even when it is written in the bible. at least learin by trial and error. STOP and think, if the tomb was already empty before they came, before sun rise, what do that mean? he was already arisen. that's not hard to grasp. now what you must count and "UNDERSTAND" when he was crucified. and please get that good friday and that late thursday out of your minds.
now I'll help you out once more, there was two sabbath in the week when our Lord was crucified, Passover, and the 7th day sabbath. now go from there.

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The Jewish Sabbath had ended and the two Mary's along with the disciples were up and about on the First day of the week.

If you continue I shal put you on ignore.
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Cooper said:

The Jewish Sabbath had ended and the two Mary's along with the disciples were up and about on the First day of the week.

If you continue I shal put you on ignore.
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coop, coop, coop, the stone had already been rolled away.

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101G said:

coop, coop, coop, the stone had already been rolled away.

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It was early in the morning, the darkness had gone and it was DAYlight.

You are going on ignore.
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