OCD Thoughts And Anxiety About Going To Hell
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historyb
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I am so sorry your going through this. Know these are just thoughts and they are not real, I know it's hard to do but you must banish the thoughts by realizing they are not real. That is what a Dr. told my wife who has pocd
Hidden In Him
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Greetings again. You will get several different responses on a question like this, some more therapeutic and some more instructional. Mine revolves around the following passage of scripture, where the encouragement was to strengthen your faith in God by giving yourself increasingly to living in ways that you know please Him, such as walking in love towards others and giving yourself to studying His word and to prayer. The more "diligently" you give yourself to these things, the more you will know that you are not simply dismissing your sins and your past life but actively working to become a different person; one conformed more to His will because you are becoming a true daughter of the Living God, having been adopted by Him into His household.
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:4-8)
quietthinker
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An awareness of desperate inadequacy precedes the call for help. We are to know that without forgivness through Jesus we are sunk ships. If we have never known God, his Spirit will bring this awareness to us but he doesn't leave us there......he points us to the sin bearer; the one who gave his life so that we can live. There is only one Saviour, one deliverer. No pope or priest or person of any description can deliver like Jesus.
Go to him....call out in your desperation for help and he will lift you up.
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Prayer Warrior
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Hi, Lavender Purple, and welcome to the forum!
I have experienced horrible fear and anxiety. We can have these kinds of thoughts and feelings for many different reasons. In another thread you seemed to be questioning your faith. Do you feel comfortable telling us about where you are with God?
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Prayer Warrior
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BTW, debilitating fear can be from the devil. I have found the Warfare Prayer in the following link to be very helpful when I've been attacked with fear and anxiety from the enemy of our souls.
https://www.cru.org/content/dam/cru/legacy/2012/02/Spiritual_Warfare_Prayer.pdf
https://www.cru.org/content/dam/cru/legacy/2012/02/Spiritual_Warfare_Prayer.pdf
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Intense fear about going to hell is definitely a tough thing to deal with on your own.
Did you know that when you get saved God becomes your Father. He is no longer the God of Wrath or judgment. He is YOUR Abba/Father....which is to say your Daddy God. And once He became your Father and you His child it became His purpose, desire and responsibility to teach you how to walk in His ways. Jesus died for your sins and they fell upon Him...you are now righteous in the sight of God through Jesus. Your righteousness is not of your own doing...it is only by the blood of Jesus that your sins are covered, and you are now as cleansed of all unrighteousness.
Pray to your Father and ask Him to deliver you from fear (which is Satan's intention) and to help you understand what being saved really means.
VictoryinJesus
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as one member said you will most likely get different replies. I lived my whole life or most of what I remember of if with this intense crippling fear. My counselor says it maybe began with my step father who terrorized our home singing gospel hymns while drunk. That I was trained early on to always be expecting the next shoe to drop in a major way so physically, my body stayed tightened and prepared for fight or flight. I don’t think it was all his fault but just who I become which is fear based and terrified always. It made me sick. Sometimes losing down to ninety pounds. When I had children, panic attacks surfaced. Sometimes all day long one after another until I could not function in life in anyway. Basically housebound under being a stay at home mother, on antidepressants for thirty years and Xanax. OCD, yes that too. Sometimes a fear so great it prevented even swallowing. All kinds of little odd ticks of trying to control the fear. Only telling you all this because I want you to know that several years ago I sat with the counselor and when being told one day I could be free and be different...to my core I thought ‘what a joke. You have no idea how deep it goes. This is just who I am and who I will always be.” That I believed wholeheartedly. Several years ago though something changed in my heart and thoughts. It wasn’t how I could please God because that was terrifying in itself. It was beginning to see just how enormous God is and how small I am. The more enormous God became and the More capable I saw He is, the more a quiet trust began to surface. It causes problems on such topics where you become titled as once saved always saved and that is not the point. I try to tell others, in my case, I can’t focus there on myself but to be well and to rest ... God becomes the capable One and not me. It has been nearly a year now since I’ve taken my antidepressant. Can’t remember the last time I had a panic attack, when they once were so bad I would get in the car to run and once in the car the panic was still there, my realizing (even more terrifying) I had nowhere TO RUN. Doctors could NOT help me. Pills could Not help me because, even then with the pills panic was still present with me. God is the only one who helped. I still get depressed but even in depression, every day there is this Tremendous Hope because I have seen to my core something has changed drastically that I was fully convinced would never change. The biggest change is being no longer convinced ‘it is impossible.’ Life is different. Now I can go sit in a restaurant and have a meal and coffee without struggling to swallow for looking for the nearest exit. Something He taught me once, in the beginning and hopefully maybe it will help you. I was told I had to have an MRI and would be in the machine for over two hours. For weeks I stressed over being trapped in there and was nearly to the point of “I just can’t do it.” In prayer right before the test He revealed a plane (realize that sounds insane) but even at the time I didn’t realize what He had done. He replaced the X-ray machine with being stuck in a plane. In prayer I saw that although I had never been on a plane, being in one in flight with no exit and no way out would be the ultimate of being trapped. In my mind the X-ray machine became so small ...I could get out anytime I decided and I wasn’t really trapped. Somehow He had diminished my fear and I was able to do the test. Again, realize that may sound crazy. Sometimes I wondered why a plane? Why not just take the fear away without replacing it with something I never considered fearing? His word says to fear God First and fear of all those other things starts to diminish and become irrelevant in Light of Him. I hope He shows you how enormous and capable and sufficient He is, and promise everything else will get smaller. He can move mountains, yeah.
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Is there anyone among God’s genuine children (Hebrews 12:6) who hasn't gone through this? Still, the debilitating fear is not of God but of our old fallen human nature. Instead of letting it terrorize you, use it wisely to fuel your prayers and devotions. There is an abundance of spiritual refreshment awaiting you at the end of this tribulation (Psalms 66:10-12).
The following prayer helped me greatly in times of desperation:
O Master Christ God, Who hast healed my passions through Thy Passion, and hast cured my wounds through Thy wounds, grant me, who have sinned greatly against Thee, tears of compunction. Transform my body with the fragrance of Thy life-giving Body, and sweeten my soul with Thy precious Blood from the bitterness with which the foe has fed me. Lift up my down-cast mind to Thee, and take it out of the pit of perdition, for I have no repentance, I have no compunction, I have no consoling tears, which uplift children to their heritage. My mind has been darkened through earthly passions, I cannot look up to Thee in pain. I cannot warm myself with tears of love for Thee. But, O Sovereign Lord Jesus Christ, Treasury of good things, give me thorough repentance and a diligent heart to seek Thee; grant me Thy grace, and renew in me the likeness of Thine image. I have forsaken Thee – do not then forsake me! Come out to seek me; lead me up to Thy pastures and number me among the lambs of Thy chosen flock. For you are merciful God and love mankind. Amen!
Thank you all for your replies. Random people online said if you come to God/Jesus bc your scared of hell, you are wrong. I felt this was my case and now I feel even more guilty. I fear I will end up like this guy here:
You biggest problem is you have never sat down and just talked to Him...to get to know Him....why would He sacrifice so much for you (His only begotten Son, Jesus) just to cast you into hell? He loves you more than you can comprehend! He knows every thought you think, and every word you speak before it even comes out of your mouth.
You were taught to FEAR GOD! But that is not the kind of relationship He desires with you...He is a good, good, Father who longs for you to seek Him and you will find Him.
The Fear of the Lord in scripture is the same meaning as reverence or respect....it's not fear as in be afraid...be very afraid....for if you sin you're going to hell.....
Not the Father I serve! Our Father promises to perfect in us that good work that He begun when we became born again.
What He will judge when you stand before Him is your heart not your flesh..is there any unforgiveness, bitterness, evil desires things like that in your heart? These things must be purged.
I'm pretty much lost right now and a friend told me I'm going through a religious warfare
I agree with that man about several things, but I'm not sure he's right about everything. I've visited hell myself. Yes, there are different levels from what I've seen, so I agree with him on that. He said other things however that aren't quite right. Don't let them disturb you. Don't worry so much about the future: Do what is right now because if you do what is right now, the future will take care of itself.
We all start off being wrong about many things. It is wrong to think God wants to punish us -- indeed that kind of thinking can send people to hell. If we start off being afraid of God, that can motivate us to stop sinning. That is a good thing. As we sin less and less, we stop feeling as guilty. We progress to a new level where we realize God never wanted to punish us. God loves us.
Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
I suggest you stop worrying and look around you. Find something good you can do for someone else. God gave you the ability to love others and to do good deeds to them. Let Him work then. Do good, knowing all good comes from above and you are allowing God to move through you. Jesus wants us to know one another. Do it. He gave us the power to do good, so we should do good when we see where it's possible. If you see where you can do good for someone else, that's God revealing something to you -- so do it.
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Faith in Jesus means we believe what he said. He said he would reward us by our works. If God makes it possible for us to do good to other people, He will reward us if we do them.
Look at what Jesus told the "sheep" -- and some of them didn't know they were doing his works. They weren't trying to earn salvation.
Matthew 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Some of them didn't know what he meant. They were just being kind to others. They weren't trying to earn salvation.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
At first, we often avoid sin trying to escape punishment; but if we do good, we find we enjoy it. Then after a while, we start doing good not hoping to be rewarded but because it makes us happy -- and we start being happy when we see we made someone else happy. We stop thinking about ourselves, stop thinking about hell and Heaven as much. We enjoy life here and now since we can see how we can make the world a little better place. That is God moving through us, even if we don't know it. We stop thinking as much about ourselves and more about others; and believe me, anyone can get depressed by thinking about himself -- it's not healthy. If we see something we don't like in ourselves, why think about it until we worry ourselves sick -- change it and then move on. For example, if I was a glutton, I might get a box and every time I wanted to eat too much, I'd put money in the box. Then after a while, I'd take the money and send it to a charity that feeds hungry people. Every time I was tempted to the sin of gluttony, I could do a good deed by helping feed the poor. I am sure I'd be happier that way since people who overeat often do it, then feel guilty and hate themselves.
At first, you may say, "I can't help anyone else. I can barely keep myself alive." That is wrong thinking that will keep you down and depressed. Do something kind for someone else -- even if it's a little thing. Prove to yourself you can do something, that you're not powerless in your own life. Jesus makes it possible for us to show love for each other -- trust him and let him do it.
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quietthinker
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I love you ViJ.
historyb
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The first thing you need to do is stop looking to YouTube for anything spiritual. YouTube is a cesspit
Welcome to the forum, Lavender. Though I have gratefully overcome a lot of anxiety in the last few years, I know what you are talking about and will pray that God will keep your mind in perfect peace. It has been a constant struggle for me for many years. If you ever need accountability, I have a baby and am up quite a bit at night and on also during the day. Sometimes, for me, it just helped to pray with somebody until the anxiety subsided some. But if you trust in Jesus Christ and live by your convictions to follow Him, then you are saved. The enemy is nothing but a liar. God bless you. ❤
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Hidden In Him
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This is utterly false. Scripture teaches clearly that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 9:10), so what they are telling you is unscriptural nonsense. This is why Hell was created. It is a deterrent, designed for the Devil and his angels but there for men as well if they so choose to worship him instead of God. Granted, you need to grow in your relationship with Jesus to the place where love for Him is your ultimate motivation, but if the fear of God were not something people were to take seriously then the scriptures would not have commanded us to raise up our children in the way they should go - in the fear of the Lord - so that when they are older the will not depart from it.
As for your video, Bill Wiess's testimony is true, but again it is intended to draw you away from sin and Hell and to God, as my first post was telling you.
I don't mean to go off topic but all of this sinning and hell could had been prevented if Adam and Eve never ate the forbidden fruit. I'm so upset. If only I had a time machine I would go to The Garden Of Eden and stopped them from eating it
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