The Bodily Resurrection of Jesus

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amadeus

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indeed, whatever does that mean?
what is what is it?

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it.

Strong's Hebrew: 2451. חָכְמָה (chokmah) -- wisdom
not that kind of wisdom though, apparently

"buried with Him in death, raised to new life in Him"

hope that helps :)
LOL... along with the ancient children of Israel, it would seem...
 
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Boy you sure avoid the context don't you and rip scripture from it to form your false doctrine to deny Jesus is still a man with a human body.

Hebrews 13:7-9
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. 9 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings

Are leaders babies ?
Do you imitate the faith and way of life of a baby ?
Jesus is the same YESTERDAY. Do you know what yesterday means ?
Jesus is the same TODAY. Do you know what today means ?
Jesus is the same FOREVER. Do you know what forever means ?

For there is One God and One Mediator between God and man, the MAN( not baby) Christ Jesus.

hope this helps !!!
This means Jesus never changes, not that he started his yesterday on a cross.
 

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The Lord Jesus is an actual human.
In a sense, yes, but has been made a quickening spirit when his God resurrected him from the dead.

He is an omnipresent human spirit that his God fully indwells.
 

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In a sense, yes, but has been made a quickening spirit when his God resurrected him from the dead.

He is an omnipresent human spirit that his God fully indwells.

How will He partake of the fruit of the vine new with us in His Father's kingdom?

Jesus was raised bodily from the dead (John 2:19-21); He also ate a piece of broiled fish and honeycomb in His resurrected body (Luke 24:42-43).

The Holy Ghost, while He is Jesus Christ, is a distinct Person from the Son.

It is the Holy Ghost that is that Omnipresent Spirit; and He is the same Spirit as the Father (Ephesians 4:4); while He also proceeds from the Father (John 15:26).

The Son exists in a glorified human body (1 John 4:1-3, 2 John 1:7).
 
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Accusing the brethren, would be part and parcel with that, i reckon...
yes, that would def be a "tell" i guess huh

But perhaps you can explain how you understand that expression, so i better understand when you reference it?

Peace![/QUOTE]well it is not something that is installed directly into Scripture i guess, and so we only have clues; Satan is called the liar, and the father of lies right but we (arguably) cannot actually Quote him lying anywhere, although we are aware of the "lies" bc we become the Observer in those passages, understanding that there is a literal interp and a spiritual interp of "you will not die" etc, so iow he was right, they did not literally die, but he lied nonetheless, and he did so by speaking as it were a "fact"

anyway, my current theory is that when we speak in Facts, more or less, as if we know (he who says he knows anything, doesnt) and/or the hegelian "dialectic," these might be it. But a corollary Q would i guess be
"what is the naive dialectic?"
 
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imo the spiritual meaning of manna also plays into that; if Facts are "meat" then even much of the interplay at those two terms becomes clearer,
We're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat
i'd rather never eat meat again,

etc
 

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What have we been eating lately?
none of us really ever goto a diff town and stay in one house, and eat what they feed you huh
the lessons were invaluable, but i am convinced now that this is something to be done spiritually, rather than literally...although i dunno if there is a substitute for the literal there, either. Mostly bc any proxy we effect will be more under our control
 
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