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  1. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    Everyone will be resurrected, "there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust" (Acts 24:15). But only those that have a part in the first resurrection will be changed to spirit beings and will have a home in heaven with Jesus. Only Christians have that calling - John 6...
  2. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    1Th 4:16 - "... The dead in Christ will rise first". The dead in Christ are only those that have become Christians, and therefore are only those who have been baptised into Jesus' death ("Or don’t you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" Romans...
  3. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    Good grief! Besides bad language and insults you're now being sexist. You are far from the kingdom of God at the moment. Men and women are equal in Christ - Galatians 3 (WEB): (26) For you are all children of God, through faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as were baptized into...
  4. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    I said I wouldn't reply any more, but I'll just post once more before I stop and have my tea. :) Paul was not writing to "complete heathens". The clue is in the title of the book - he was writing to Israelites/Jews who were Christians - Hebrews. I can tell what point he was making, but it is...
  5. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    If you just state that every verse of Scripture that I quote is corrupted and shouldn't be believed, then it is pointless continuing the discussion. Psalms 139:13-14 (WEB): (13) For you formed my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother’s womb. (14) I will give thanks to you, for I am...
  6. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    So from where are you reading the uncorrupted words of God? That is not a quote. What is the verse reference? The only verse that I can find that comes anywhere near close to "fall down on the earth" is Jeremiah 51:47 (WEB) which says: (47) Therefore behold, the days come that I will...
  7. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    Jesus saves us from the wages of sin, which is death. (Romans 6:23) It is clear what sin is; God makes it clear in His word. Sin is anything which causes upset, hurt, distress or sadness to another person. Sin is the opposite of love, and love is the opposite of sin. As Paul wrote, Romans...
  8. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    Because I have read the whole of the Bible (and the Apocrypha) and I don't remember ever reading any of the things that you are claiming. Because I believe the Bible is the word of God and I believe the Apostle Paul when he wrote "All Scripture is inspired by God" (2Ti 3:16). I didn't claim...
  9. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    Where in the Bible does God say that. Please give Bible refereneces; don't just claim that something is so without giving Biblical evidence to support your claim. Your English is confusing. By "not he made" do you mean "he did not make"? If so you are clearly not believing God. Please say...
  10. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    Yes, I do find it to be ludicrous nonsense! That question has never entered my head. Why would it enter any sane person's head? Esau died thousands of years ago, so he couldn't possibly stop anything being placed on the Internet. You do realise that the Internet was only invented a few...
  11. keithr

    the 'sealed scroll' as Esau's corruption : the greatest story you was never told

    You're the one who has posted bizarre things such as "Adam never died", "the evil realm placed our souls in this pimped-Ape-body on this prison-planet", "Adam 'counseled Esau to go corrupt the scroll'", "'the two witnesses' in Revelation are "the 144K" as 'the house Ishral and house Judah' in...
  12. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    How does a man having only one arm make it easier for someone to debate with him? :rolleyes: Smarten up! "Heavenly prison of Satan?" Satan does not imprison anybody, and he definitely doesn't imprison any humans in heaven. He has no power over dead humans. Where do you find support for such...
  13. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Hey, just because you can't understand what I've pointed out, or because you choose not to believe it, that's no reason to accuse me of lying, being stupid, and not seeking the truth of God's word. Just because I don't agree with what you've written doesn't mean that I "do not belong" on this...
  14. keithr

    Who are the 144,000?

    God (Yahweh) is the creator of all things. He created them though His only begotten son Jesus. It's important to recognise God as the creator, and not to believe the false theory of evolution, or life on earth being brought here by alien beings, or any other deception of Satan, because the...
  15. keithr

    Who are the 144,000?

    Seven days of creation? I'm sure it was six days: Exodus 20:11 (WEB): (11) for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy. Exodus 31:17 (WEB): (17) It is a sign between me...
  16. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Verse 20 is not referring to dead people, and it doesn't say he preached the Gospel, just that he preached to them. Verse 19 says it's referring to "spirits in prison". People are humans, not spirits. Dead humans have no thoughts and cannot be preached to. Angels are spirits. This is who...
  17. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    According to Strong's: erchomai er'-khom-ahee Middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred [middle voice] word, ἐλεύθομαι eleuthomai or ἔλθω elthō; which do not otherwise occur); to come or go (in a great variety of...
  18. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    Literal translations don't translate it that way: LSV: (3) and every spirit that does not confess Jesus Christ having come in the flesh, it is not of God; and this is that of the antichrist, which you heard that it comes, and now it is already in the world. YLT: (3) and every spirit that doth...
  19. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    I prefer to believe the sources that say "The book is commonly dated to about AD 95" (Wikipedia). See also When was the book of Revelation written?