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  1. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    While I appreciate your efforts in unification, I think they may be misplaced. Here is a small sample of things Jim B said to me. Then clearly you don't understand Scripture! What compels you to be a "wise guy"? Good, then stop preaching!!! What flaw in your personality has you convinced that...
  2. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    No. I was not comparing you to the devil. I was comparing what you said to the devil. Huge difference. Unless you think people never say the wrong thing, it must be conceded that sometimes we do. When would that be? When we say anything that is not what God said. That does not make any of us to...
  3. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Well, there is the anonymity of the internet. It makes people say things they'd never say in person. Still, I'd think Christians (myself included) ought to be above all of that. Maybe it's expecting too much. In any case...I go a preaching! Thanks.
  4. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Forgive me for belaboring the point, but Acts sure seems to say that power comes with holy spirit, not two different things, which I think is what you are saying. Acts 1:5-8, 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. 6 When they...
  5. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Someone told me to stop preaching. I pointed out where God says just the opposite. So telling me to stop preaching is a lie. It doesn't make the one who spoke those words the devil any any way shape of form. However, it does mean that what they said is something that the devil would say because...
  6. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Thanks. But to try and clarify, in my mind I think what you said is something the devil would say. I don't see that at all as comparing you, the person, Jim B, to the devil. What you say and what you are, are two different things in my mind. I have little doubt that at times I slip up and say...
  7. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    I'm not fighting anyone. Read my post #434 to Jim B. That's my sincere feeling about him and everybody else here, yourself very much included. I'm just trying to talk scriptures. Multiple times now I've begged people to stop the pointless personal attacks and stick with the scriptures...
  8. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    I didn't compare you to the devil. I would never do that. People tell me all the time I'm going to burn in hell, die in my sins, or whatever, but I'd never say such a thing to a brother of sister. I simply pointed out what you said sounds like something the devil would say, and I firmly stand by...
  9. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    So until Jesus was baptized, he had holy spirit but no power? I'm just asking. Not saying you're wrong. Acts 1:8, But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the...
  10. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    How many times have I said the gift is holy spirit of which there are nine different ways it can be manifested? You seriously haven't seen that? I reject the deity of Christ? I guess you also haven't seen where I in fact have said more than once that Jesus was divine. I think that would mean I...
  11. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    You should be able to see at least a half dozen times where I said everything we have from God is a gift, including the nine manifestations, of which tongues is one. Are you that prejudiced against me that you insist otherwise? Why not read what I say as it is written? Do you read the...
  12. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Is that all you got out of that? I didn't call you anything. I just said that telling someone to stop preaching is something the devil would say. When compared to the verse I quoted about God telling us in no uncertain terms to preach, is that true or false?
  13. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    I stand corrected on that. You're right. Thanks for the heads up. I got sloppy. So what did happen on the day of Pentecost? Did they get anything they didn't have before?
  14. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    That sounds exactly like something the devil would say. Here's what God says; 2 Tim 4:2, Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. Hmmmm...who to believe?
  15. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    What does my being a "wise guy" have to do with tongues? Do you want to know what compels me to do something or do you want to talk about tongues? I'm fine with the latter, but I have no interest in me or anybody else being a "wise guy." Have you still not gotten the message? I must have said...
  16. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    And you're not? Didn't you just complain about me getting off topic? There is nothing in the OP about me hoping anything, let alone that people would believe me. God gave us all the responsibility to preach the word. He gives the increase, not me. I speak; I've done my job. End of story.
  17. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    Such a bad boy I am! :(
  18. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    What's that got to do with tongues?
  19. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    I never asked anyone to believe anything.
  20. Rich R

    Speaking in tongues is NOT a gift

    So God was wrong about nobody knowing the secret before Paul? Daniel knew it way before Paul knew it? These ideas come from not understanding the different people to whom God spoke as well as when He spoke. Different people and different times. Do you read and answer your neighbor's mail? It is...