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In Hebrews, it speaks of resting from our own works... Hebrews 4 10For whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. ...but...

How do you balance the Biblical doctrine of past-tense justification by faith without good works with the Biblical doctrine of future-tense justification by good works of faith? It is true that Romans 4 speaks of justification by faith, apart from good works--and that it is of faith so that it...

I think Ghada may be being distracted by this rabbit, and is wasting their time chasing it, when they could be doing something more personally constructive. I do "get" the complaint, though: lots of people claim their inner person doesn't sin when they sin, it's their outward person, but their...

I actually agree with Ghada's central point ("don't be deceived and don't claim to be part of Christ if you're living in sin"), but I do think the way they're going about it is kind of sad and self defeating. The tone just seems wrong. Fault finding. I remember when we disagreed you were...

"Pseudo scholarship"--so perfect! Lol Too many examples... don't need to go off on a tangent... lol "pseudo scholarship" these people are embarrassing with their rank ignorance they swear is "top notch" Christian scholarship, yet unknown to the early Church. Yes, they discovered real...

The guy actually publicly brags he is an "expert" (first sign of fraud), then, when challenged, is either incapable of answering (of course this is obviously the case) or refuses to answer. He and all others like him are hopeless liars. They can't defend their lies, so they end up calling you...

That was a link to the place in the thread where he ran away from Romans 11.

Lol look at him run away after he gets disproven Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

I'll find our former conversation (it's been locked, bc nothing remained of the others' views that hadn't been answered, they're were just mulling around, hurling insults and doing other empty talking--anything but answering to the Scripture). Lol

The crazy thing is the dude REFUSES to interact on the issue when pressed. He can't handle the heat! Lol

Ask him whether the Christians in Romans 11:17-23 were told they could be cut off for unbelief even though they had already believed. He won't answer it. Lol He tries to redefine them as "Gentiles therefore not Christians" but it doesn't matter what he wants to call them, all that matters is...

Many who believe in salvation by faith alone also believe that that salvation MUST manifest itself in holiness--eg, Spurgeon, who was a Calvinist, said "If you don't care about saving souls, be sure your soul is not saved either."

@Rita If you wouldn't mind, I'd like the thread to be locked. I think all the views have been heard.

I think this thread has run its course--everyone has been heard, hopefully we've all learned something about Scripture--so I think I'll ask for it to be locked.

I just want to clarify that it took me a long time to learn to bring my difficulties with Scripture to God, so, no, I do not trust in myself--as easy as it is to make that error, and I'd made it, it doesn't lead to solutions to Scriptural difficulties--all I can do when I find difficulties...

Wish you and I could just stick to the text like when I talk with @marks

@marks doesn't have to falsely accuse me because he's confident in his position--your need to falsely accuse me is proof that you are not confident in your position. And how could you be after having had the truth explained to you over and over and over?

I invite anyone to read our discussions--I have absolute confidence that I've proven my case.

I only just now realized this verse was scooped up out of the middle of one of my favorite passages. Have you considered how that you found that verse literally in the middle of a warning not to fall away from the living God? Hebrews 3 12See to it, brothers, that none of you has a wicked heart...

Thanks for the clarification--that was kinda dark to think you would have "liked" that.