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Only he didn't receive. So there goes that. He was beyond redemption at this point.

How is that supposed to apply? " As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind." 2 Kings 2:11 Oops.

Lol, wow, some people sure do tamper with what scripture actually says. This isn't figurative. It's about two separate people. There's no logical way to read it as the same man in two places at once. Good grief.

He wasn't literally in hell.

Because God doesn't let people in hell into heaven.

No, I was once a tare and now I'm wheat. I once did not accept Christ and then I did. We don't remain what we were with no chance of changing. That's fatalism.

You believe in individual election from before the world began, unless you have changed your position in the last day. Can you tell me why one is chosen and another isn't? If not, as far as you know, it's arbitrary.

Because the rich man was Jewish.

Apparently you think there was this Rich man, who lived in a house, while at the same time was a begger outside his own gate. (he had two bodies) Then the begger part of him died and went to paradise, and later the rich man died and went to hades and then he looked across and saw his other self...

You don't build a theology on one parable. Parables are not literal in every sense. But when Jesus explains the parable, he explained why the tares were thrown out, and it wasn't blamed on the wicked one, but on them. A tare can become wheat. Evil men can become saved. God offers salvation to...

So, then we can all be buddist or Muslim or whatever and God will understand, because we don't need no Bible to tell us what is true..

Lol, it's not just unorthodox, it's absurd.

They didn't. That's backwards.

Where does it say that Pharoah didn't have the chance for salvation?

Because you flop back and forth between Calvinism and Arminianism. If some are arbitrarily chosen for salvation and others passed by, faith means nothing. Why should it matter if I have faith or not if I am already chosen for hell? Can my faith make me chosen for heaven? Can I undo God's...

I'm not sure how this relates. I just don't see how anyone can read it as them being the same person. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham...

Why are the tares who they are? 40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. Because they do evil. We have already had...

How could they be the same person?

He chose you " in him". In other words, he decided that whoever is in him will be elected to eternal life.

So, it's not individual election at all. God isn't choosing certain individuals before creation for salvation.