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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They ignore the following passage which mentions Jesus currently reigning, mentions His resurrection as being the first, and mentions us having been MADE priests and kings of God the Father and His Son Jesus. Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You don't have to say anything. People ask you not to post them and you post them, anyway, and demand that people look at them. It strongly comes across that you like to show off your charts and hope that people will be impressed with your Photoshop skills.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    I am in the land of the Bible since the land of the Bible is the whole world. But, like Peter said, I look forward to inheriting the new heavens and new earth where only righteousness will dwell (2 Peter 3:13). God bless Christians throughout the world in every nation! You need to read the New...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Again, I didn't say otherwise. I agree with that and didn't say otherwise. There is something VERY wrong with you which causes you to misunderstanding everything you read. You AGAIN are misrepresenting my view. Where did I say that? Nowhere. God's wrath is on someone while they are lost. Read...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    There are many NT passages which show that Zechariah 14 cannot possibly be fulfilled the way Premils typically interpret it, which is that they see it as indicating mortal survivors of Christ's second coming (contradicts Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I know that is not what he believes, so he must have put Matthew 24:29 by mistake instead of Matthew 24:21. Have you really never seen him give his understanding of Matthew 24:29-31? You know he is post-trib, right? That passage is one reason why. So, I know he must have meant Matthew 24:21.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's like we're trying to talk to kids who are on recess and have no interest in doing anything but playing games. These children are so incredibly immature, that it truly boggles my mind. Some of them have been Christians for a long time now and they are still only "babes in Christ" who can...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Context is important, Doug. The context there is of great tribulation in Judea and Jerusalem as the parallel passage here makes even more clear: Luke 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    You do know that Matthew 13:41-42 is describing the day of judgment, right? So, what exactly is your point here? That the day of judgment will occur when Christ returns? If so, I agree. That is portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46 as well.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, if that was the case I would assume that you would say the following verse is about the rapture and not the second coming, right? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed)...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where does Matthew 24:15-21 say anything about something that is occurring that comes upon all who dwell on the earth? Please show me. Enough of your talk already, Doug. Exegete the scripture for me if you want to be taken seriously. If you don't, then you can just continue to put your own words...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    LOL. Unsurprising nonsensical response. Acting as if you know me. Putting yourself equal to God. You need to humble yourself, boy. Thank you for your service, but you are very clearly quite proud of yourself, but a Christian should be humble. You need to humble yourself. That is a fact. Do you...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Response to Ricky on Pretrib

    This says it all when it comes to comparing the post-trib vs. pre-trib approach to scripture. One view is based on explicit scripture and one is based on assumptions, speculation and wild theories.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The way you talk shows your incredibly high level of immaturity. You have no control over your anger and emotions. You come across as being unhinged. Such a person can't hope to learn from the Holy Spirit. You are tossed around back and forth by your pride and your emotions. Drop the tough guy...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Mystery Babylon is a CITY Per God's Word

    It's foolishness to ignore that God's Word says Jesus was NOT crucified in Jerusalem. John 19:20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. Hebrews 13:12 And so Jesus also suffered...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Mystery Babylon is a CITY Per God's Word

    I agree that the great city Babylon is not a literal earthly city (it is Spiritual Babylon), but how can it be the church? Can't you see that Babylon will be destroyed? The church will not be destroyed. Mystery Babylon is actually the spiritual opposite of the church, which is represented by the...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Oh, look. It's Timtofly chiming in with his nonsense again. When did I say they were condemned? Never. So, where did you get that from? Your imagination. I have said many times that the ones who were blinded in that time later had a chance to repent and be saved. That is why in Romans 11:11-14...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    I believe that is figurative language and is not related to the second coming of Christ. Do you not care if your interpretation of Zechariah 14 lines up with the rest of scripture? How does it line up with 2 Peter 3:10-12? How does it line up with 1 Thess 4:13-5:11 and 2 Thess 1:7-10? How does...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Show us the scripture in Revelation that shows anyone in heaven wearing the crown of life. Good luck.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Please show where the 1,335 days is alluded to in Luke 21:34-36. I'm not asking for a specific reference to "1335 days", I'm asking you to show where it refers to something that will occur during the 1,335 days or for a duration of 1,335 days.