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Absolutely agree with we never cease, I suppose it comes down to how we view it. I see a new creation when we become saved and place that in NHNE and you see eternal life as us who are still physically in an OHOE continuing into the NHNE. I’m not going to argue against your view on this, it...

So you are proposing that some of the OHOE continues to exist into NHNE?

There is the possibility that OHOE alines with the old covenant and NHNE alines with the new covenant. The old covenant was no longer valid after the cross but that age didn’t actually vanish until sometime later. We can see an overlap of the two covenants even though only one covenant was...

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Abraham will definitely be remembered but I would say as a new creation because he was in Christ. Here is how the NIV translates 2 Corinthians 5:17...

Excellent verses. I can see that Jesus went to prepare a place just after the cross but I don’t see any other verses that describe Him creating a NHNE. If it’s took six days of work to create the first heaven and earth then it’s reasonable to think it would take a similar amount of time to...

Yes, we know New Jerusalem descends but if it’s in OHOE then OHOE doesn’t completely pass away, the New Jerusalem part is spared and continues on into the NHNE. Or the other view is that NHNE (an entirely new creation) was created when New Jerusalem was created and it exists while OHOE exists...

Where is heavenly Jerusalem located? Some people say it’s not in new heaven/new earth because that hasn’t been created yet, but if it’s in old heaven/old earth then it passes away per Revelation 21:1. What is your opinion, was the heavenly Jerusalem and new heaven/new earth all created at the...

This doesn’t prove whether Judas was saved or not but I have come across the idea that Satan entered Judas twice. You might find it interesting. In Luke 22:3 Satan enters Judas prior to the Last Supper. In John 13:27, at the Last Supper Satan entered Judas after the sop. In John 13:5, prior to...

God’s word doesn’t teach the tares are saved so that would be impossible unless you want to claim God lies. Do you see where this is going?

All things are possible with God, including preterism.

Right, we know it’s possible for God to call a tare someone He already knows will never accept Him. If a tare did become saved then that would make God a liar because He already said a tare was someone who would never accept Him. Do you think it’s possible for God to lie?

But then you have to claim it’s impossible for God to call someone a tare that He already knows will never accept Him. All things are possible so you contradict yourself.

I agree not everyone is in the kingdom of God. Here’s how I see it … If there was a harvest in 70AD then you can have chief priest and Pharisees being removed at that time. Interestingly enough they are also said to be of their father the devil in John 8:44 and the tares are called children of...

I agree, and since in reality a tare weed never becomes wheat in a farmers field, it would seem best to say the parable should be understood from God’s perspective. Here’s another problem to consider though, in Matthew 13:39-42 at the harvest the angels gather the tares out of His kingdom and...

I agree, it’s not really an all or none situation. Let’s take a drunkard for example. They are on the 1 Corinthians 5 list to be excommunicated but if a person is putting forth effort to stay away from alcohol and has shame and remorse over their chemical addiction then the church should also...

You bring up a good point, in Matthew 13:38 it says the field is the world. In Matthew 13:24 it says a man sowed seed in His field. Then in Matthew 13:37 it says He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man. So if we conclude that the field is the whole entire world then the whole entire...

Right, and that is the end result of saying tares should continue in the church instead of excommunicating them as the Bible says should happen.

1 Corinthians 5:10-11 gives a list of reasons for excommunicating a person from the church. It is Biblical to excommunicate a tare.

I asked about your church, if your church truly believes tares are to grow along side the wheat then your church should allow just anyone to become a member. Is that the case in your church? I can tell you this, I’ve never been to a church that didn’t have a statement of faith that they required...

If Hitler was a proven tare then Christians should be in agreement that Hitler should’ve been allowed to continue his campaign and grow with us, without interference from Christians.