aspen2 said:
Rex - you do not understand science or carbon dating. Within academia, multiple methods are often used to confirm data. It is infantile for you to suggest that scientists use different methods of dating until they come up with the answer they are looking for. You should be able to comprehend the use of multiple methods to confirm data since Biblical scholars often rely on ancient artifacts to confirm the civilizations mention in the Bible.
Pretty worked up arn't you aspen. The truth of the matter is God could have very well have created in a moment the universe with "apparent" age built in what would be the reason behind such a thing, I'll be the first to say I don't know.
I'm just going to cut to the point, I was simply replying to JB's post, it has nothing to do with carbon dating, or that I agree with everything he says but I do agree with that post.
The truth is I have no problem considering ether young or old creation, like I said I beleive God could and may have created the heavens and the earth in a literal six days or six seconds or in a moment. But this requires we use time, or the scale of time we measure here on earth. 1 day = 24 hours ect. What I find amazing is I can also used proven science from a scientist with some of the highest credentials and believe the earth is also 15 billion years yet created in 6 days as well. You see it's a matter of perspective, time moves slower or faster depending on ether your location, how fast your traveling, or both.
I'm sure you know what geocentric vs heliocentric is, its the old argument of what is the center of our solar system, the sun or the earth. I would now like to apply that to what I'm about to say. Time and location, the fact is that today If you were standing at the point of expansion of the universe looking out the amount of time you would measure would be slightly more than 6 24 hour days, Now us standing on earth looking outward we can measure roughly 15 billions years backwards to where science can see the robin egg shape of the universe when it first began it's expansion.
So you see I can just as easily tell my scientific friends this. So then you believe that it's a compete coincidence that an atomic clock sitting in the center of the expansion of the universe has only registered slightly more than 6-24 hour days, and an identical atomic clock placed with in the gas expanding outward that would someday become the earth has ticked of 15 billion years. I find that a remarkable coincidence. So you see, I can also believe that from where God may have been watching the development of the big bang, "from the point of expansion" only six days have passed. Yet we see billions of years. geocentric vs heliocentric, time, it's all about location.
Rex said:
Here's book introduction you may enjoy reading it, I know the books on this subject are many but not many writers have the science and biblical back ground this man has.
http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48951136.html
Unlike most people with the attention span of a fruit fly, I trust you will read the outline introduction.
And to the fruit flies please do not trouble me with not understanding or not using proper science or making something up, I am merely in the simplest words possible giving you a description of applied physics or Einsteins math concerning time and space, from someone that is more than qualified to apply it to what we know today. If you can not read and study the provided link and understand what it means I have already provided in the simplest version I can. So please don't bother arguing with me about it.
It's science and its fascinating how time is measured and works depending on the point of observation. Relativity, time is relevant to location mass and speed.
