Featured A Woman's role within the Body:

I've been struggling the past couple of days with 1 Corinthians 14:33-35. It doesn't offend like it once did when I first came to Him. "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

First this verse is confusing because, as a woman and wife I am no longer Judged by the law but rather Judged by Christ. For me, the church is not within a building but I fully accept church as anywhere and anytime the body gathers together in His name. Whether it be three or more. So, I am to keep silence when the body gathers and ask my husband at home. Silence always when the body gathers?? That is a lot to ask. Almost, nearly impossible. But Paul seems to say it is profitable to abide in this.

I do realize there is a spiritual meaning here in that each one of us when joined unto the body...become the woman(the Proverbs woman) under submission to Her Head which is Christ. We have all, all those no longer under the Old Covenant of works in the flesh have been "beheaded" for His name's sake. Consider the profound imagery of John as his way(man's way) decreases for Christ...who IS the way to increase. Matthew 14:10-12 "And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison. [11] And his head was brought in a charger, and given to the damsel: and she brought it to her mother. [12] And his disciples came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus."

The Spiritual application of all women remaining silent within the churches and asking their husband at home becomes (Men and Women) of the bride in submission to (their)head of the body; is to remains silent and ask of their husband at home. No doubt many martyrs have been beheaded for His name sake but even in doing so, it was not the open display of their eagerness to suffer pain but their eagerness to declare submission to their head which is GOD. Not all are martyrs physically, but we all are "beheaded" for the sake of the gospel and given a new Head which is Christ. The Old Covenant as Head is cutoff in sight of a better way, a better Covenant which is Christ. As John the Baptist knew this temporal imprisonment and beheading took on a whole new level of allegiance to the Spiritual in "I must decrease". Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."​

What does that have to do with A Woman and silence in the churches? In 1 Timothy 2:12-15
the word says, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

Again, I can see this fully demonstrates the body of Christ's submission to its Head in not usurping authority over Christ and allowing Him( the Spirit) to teach rather than the flesh. Zechariah 2:13 "Be silent, O all flesh, before the Lord : for he is raised up out of his holy habitation." The Woman being saved in childbearing through Christ.

So, this morning I think I have my confirmation. I've been feeling for sometime now that God is leading me to write solely for women and to participate in workshops for women and if I am going to teach...it will be to teach women to love their husbands and children including (Christ and His body also). Again, I realize that the above verses have spiritual meaning and purpose but that doesn't mean there is not a better way in abiding in them. What is the struggle then? It may mean backing away from the forum since I do not know where posting and debating scripture with men fits within those verses and a woman's role to Her Head.

 

1 Peter 3:7
[7] Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Can you please give scripture that says a woman is to Honour? Does it not say the wife is to be in subjection? 1 Peter 3:5
[5] For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

Why does Paul say a woman should follow this still? “...as also saith the law”? 1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

 

Have you been beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God? Yes or No?

 

His bride, as the weaker vessel, what does He bestow upon Her ...Is it not Honour. Vessel of Honour ... or vessels of Shame. Did He not bear our shame so that we could be a vessel unto Honour?

 

There again “submit” as also “be into subjection to”. The Husband Honours the wife as the weaker vessel, as unto Honour. It is what HE did for us...don’t deminish it.

 

You have no idea how your words impact a person...do you? You preach humility yet don’t show it unless you are in the right. As long as someone agrees with you then you remain charming but the second someone doesn’t agree with everything you say, they are without Christ and stand condemned. You say you are in the lower seat but take the higher one in saying you know everything there is to know of God, and unless we agree a hundred percent...we stand condemned. You say you love, but only those that feed your ego. You say you are not religious but you are the worst kind of religious in tearing everyone that doesn’t align with you down. That is a vessel of destruction. That is what a vessel of destruction does..it destroys. I may be stupid but the first post I ever read of yours I was so interested in hearing what God was saying to you about His word but lost all interest the moment you immediately starting implying I stand condemned. Say I am wrong about a passage. I’ll listen but if Judge me one more time as not being a daughter of HIS... You are not the authority over me. You’ve hurt my feelings repeatedly. Crushed them even. Not in saying I am wrong but in implying repeatedly as if God does not love me. You’ve torn down my confidence in that I even hear God or ever could. You make me feel completely worthless and incapable and that is no good for faith. That is not edification but the opposite. I’m sorry but I don’t see humility...I see someone that has to be right and that is religion.

 

It is good advice. Thank you.

 

I get this and obviously there is something there in me that needs to come down. I’m not saying you are right but I have been praying to God asking what needs to be seen in this on my part. Obviously I care to much what others think instead of caring what God says. It was more than one post...it had been building for days now; the always little comments snuck in that took me back to my childhood when there was always a little comment snuck in to point out a lack of value. I am sorry; it is not really you but you struck a definite nerve.


I guess this is why women aren’t supposed to teach...I do have emotions.