Actually Jesus returns twice...

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ewq1938

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Your being obtuse here. The point is a sudden destruction is coming for this world, this is taught By Jesus, Peter, and Paul. The destruction is not symbolic.


Not a global destruction at the second coming taught by anyone though. Not all unsaved humans being killed globally either. No passage teaches any of that. Rev 2 and 19 make it clear a rule over people will happen after the second coming and not one Amill has an argument against those. The two gospel examples do not teach against what some claim, and what Peter wrote of is partly at the second coming, and the rest at the coming/arrival of Christ to the GWTJ place which is not the same timeframe.
 

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This is becoming cryptic.

Rejecting Christ is the mark of the beast. Complete rejection is unavoidable.

9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “Whoever worships the beast and his image and receives the mark [of the beast] on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he too will [have to] drink of the wine of the wrath of God, mixed undiluted into the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone (flaming sulfur) in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb (Christ).
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night—those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

12 Here is [encouragement for] the steadfast endurance of the saints (God’s people), those who habitually keep God’s commandments and their faith in Jesus.
I try to stay with the topic but at times find myself straying
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forever torment for humans ?
I'm currently on the fence/neutral with that one.
Many well meaning believers argue for or against it
eg this PhD 10 min vid