All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !

[kcnalp]

Yes .. but from what cult ? :) You run around asking others questions that you yourself refuse to answer. Seems you do not practice what you preach !?

Are you saying Bible believers are a cult?

 

[Truther]

Of course.

John 3:13 (NKJV)
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

It is unusual to meet folks that think Jesus has an omnipresent body. Modernists teach Jesus' body is man sized in seminary etc.

You then agree with me that every bit of what God consists of is housed in the omnipresent body of Jesus.

 

[kcnalp]

It is unusual to meet folks that think Jesus has an omnipresent body. Modernists teach Jesus' body is man sized in seminary etc.

You then agree with me that every bit of what God consists of is housed in the omnipresent body of Jesus.

Guess you missed this:
John 3:13 (NKJV)
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

 

[Truther]

Sorry mate .. I can't conceive of "Omnipresence" .. but if Jesus was "all knowing" why did he say this ?

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man"

and why would he need to ask "The Father" .. "take this cup from my hand" .. or was this just for entertainment purposes ?

If he was "God" aka "the Father" .. then why did Satan not recognize him ? or was God playing tricks on poor Sataniel ? The fact is that no one believed that Jesus was "The Father" at the time of Mark. So in the story of Satan .. it would make no sense to have Satan ask God to bow to him...

Do you understand how heretical this would be ? no one would write this down for fear of your own people stringing you up .. No serious Bible Scholar thinks that Christians at the time of Mark - believed that Jesus was God .. that was just incomprehensible at the time.

Col 2 " 9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" .. not sure what to say about this passage .. vague .. not like the passages I gave which are not vague . "My God My God .. why have you forsaken me"

It is not from Jesus .. In fact .. this is one of the writings that it is questionable as to whether or not Paul wrote it - as opposed to the Pastorals where we are certain Paul did not write..

In any case .. even if Paul did write this .. it could mean so many things .. and it is a short scant passage with no context .. Like in Matt/Mark where it is Jesus speaking .. and not some fellow who we think might have been Paul.

The KJV says every bit of what God consists of is inside Jesus' body now.

This makes Jesus omnipresent bodily by default to accommodate the dimensions of his indwelling God.

 

[ChristisGod]

Do you think Jesus is omnipresent, bodily, right now?

Yes and I believe He was while walking this earth. The attributes of God/Deity are Immutable.

 

[kcnalp]

The KJV says every bit of what God consists of is inside Jesus' body now.

This makes Jesus omnipresent bodily by default to accommodate the dimensions of his indwelling God.

Actually, the KJV says Jesus is God.

John 1 The Word was God.

 

[ChristisGod]

Wow! It's sad the Lutherans have joined the cults!

He is Lutheran in name only as doctrinally the REAL ones believe in the Trinity and the Hypostatic Union- the 2 natures in Christ. I grew up Lutheran and my mother was a pianist in the church for a few decades.

 

[Truther]

Yes and I believe He was while walking this earth. The attributes of God/Deity are Immutable.

That is where we differ. Jesus was not omnipresent when Mary gave birth to him, but in a manger.

He was made omnipresent when he was made a quickening omnipresent spirit after his God raised him(the last Adam) from the dead.

 

[Truther]

Actually, the KJV says Jesus is God.

John 1 The Word was God.

No, it say God is INSIDE Jesus, which by default, qualifies him as his God.

 

[kcnalp]

That is where we differ. Jesus was not omnipresent when Mary gave birth to him, but in a manger.

He was made omnipresent when he was made a quickening omnipresent spirit after his God raised him(the last Adam) from the dead.

Almost forgot! You're the one who says Jesus isn't good!

 

[Heyzeus]

The KJV says every bit of what God consists of is inside Jesus' body now.

This makes Jesus omnipresent bodily by default to accommodate the dimensions of his indwelling God.

OK but that's not what Bible Encyclopedia's say - ..and certainly not in any of the Authentic Pauline Scripture .. not in Matt/Mark/Luke .. and not in John either if one understands John and the concept of the Logos ..as understood by the people of the day and the author.

So I respectfully disagree .. .and side with the Early Church .. and those who carried the faith for 800 years after.

 

[Heyzeus]

Are you saying Bible believers are a cult?

Don't be projecting your issue's onto me. I never claimed any such thing .. but You did :)

 

[kcnalp]

No, it say God is INSIDE Jesus, which by default, qualifies him as his God.

John 1 The Word was God.

Prove me wrong. You can't!

 

[kcnalp]

Don't be projecting your issue's onto me. I never claimed any such thing .. but You did :)

Wonderful! You believe Jesus is God!
John 1 The Word was God.

 

[Truther]

Almost forgot! You're the one who says Jesus isn't good!

No, he said he was not God, but only god was good.

However, after raising his lifeless son from the dead, the good God fully indwells him and makes him qualify as good.

You see, Jesus was saying only the Spirit of God is good, not the human man.

 

[Truther]

John 1 The Word was God.

Prove me wrong. You can't!

The spoken word was God...correct.

 

[kcnalp]

No, he said he was not God, but only god was good.

However, after raising his lifeless son from the dead, the good God fully indwells him and makes him qualify as good.

You see, Jesus was saying only the Spirit of God is good, not the human man.

Yeah, you're saying Jesus wasn't good!

 

[Truther]

OK but that's not what Bible Encyclopedia's say - ..and certainly not in any of the Authentic Pauline Scripture .. not in Matt/Mark/Luke .. and not in John either if one understands John and the concept of the Logos ..as understood by the people of the day and the author.

So I respectfully disagree .. .and side with the Early Church .. and those who carried the faith for 800 years after.

Stick to the KJV, not commentary.

 

[kcnalp]

The spoken word was God...correct.

Your opinions don't overrule the Bible.
John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh ...
Jesus is God.

 

[Heyzeus]

Wonderful! You believe Jesus is God!
John 1 The Word was God.

Now what are you blubbering about .. no idea what point you are trying to make .. I have never stated what I believe with respect to the divinity of God .. so what are you talking about.

Do you have voices in our head ?

 

[Truther]

Yeah, you're saying Jesus wasn't good!

No, JESUS said only the Spirit God is good.

Do you doubt Jesus' own words?...


And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. ...