All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !
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Huh ? The name of the Bible is not the issue here - at the moment .. its the books one uses ... as in if I want to know what Jesus thought .. the first place I look is in the Gospels where Jesus is speaking .. not to some book written by someone pretending to be Paul .. or Peter..
If you want this as back up .. OK .. but first one should look to the man himself don't you think ?
BTW .. as far Translations go .. the KJV is horrible in many places .. and universally recognized as such within legitimate Biblical Scholarship .. least the old version .. perhaps the new is better.. but this has no bearing on the above.
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
No, I just figured out what Jesus was implying.
It is an interesting passage .. first off .. because Jesus tells the fellow to do good works to get into heaven ..
Why call me good ? Second .. because this is yet another place where Jesus denies the Trinity .. clearly distinguishing himself from God ..while emphasizing his human nature.
So, you think it was the thought/word, not the spoken word John 1 is speaking of?
Maybe a nickname?
Actually, the man was pretending he was good and called Jesus good too.
Then, Jesus said only God was good, shooting down his comparison with Jesus.
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No, that is not what I believe. Just because He emptied Himself of His glory (omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience) He was still spawned with the SEED of God from conception. So He couldn't sin. 1 John 3:9. And when He was about to start His ministry He was filled with the Holy Spirit to be able to do miracles. And I know you won't believe this, but the second release of power (after Acts 2) of the Holy Spirit allows US to do the same.
Acts 4:
29 Now, Lord, look on their threats, and grant to Your servants that with all boldness they may speak Your word, 30 by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.”
31 And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness.
The quintessence of eisegesis is isolating passages in order to substantiate a position. This is indicative of trinitarian hermeneutics, they are unable to find a paragraph, that in its entirety, asserts that Jesus is God. All any trinitarian has ever been able to produce, are remote and truncated verses, that context-wise, and intelligence wise, have absolutely no merit whatsoever.
Having the '...fullness of deity dwell within him...' juxtaposed with verse 12 '... having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead....'
This, clearly does not denote a deity of essence, but of character and purpose. We are all created in God's image, each of us have the potential for perfection, and reflecting the full image of God. Jesus loved God with all his heart, mind and soul, thus he attained perfection. ...an act that would be pathetically absurd if Christ were God. You're not getting the point. God's Atonement does not require that He comes to earth first, to love Himself, and therefore, to propitiate Himself. You trinitarians blaspheme the wisdom of God with your narrow minded eisegesis.
Clearly distinguishes himself from "The Father" and not sure why you are trying to defend this position because it is not like Jesus does not do this a gazillion other times in Mark ? The Jesus of Mark is not "The Father" Full Stop.
Don't build your foundation on sand.
No, Jesus is trashing your thinking.
He was saying he had the ability to sin, but the Holy Ghost(God) he had and was led by per Luke 4:1 helped him not sin.
I don't teach Jesus as the Father, nor do I teach he is God incarnate.
I teach he was made God after the resurrection by the Col 2:9 effect on his quickening spirit body.
God cannot stop being God for the Lord is Immutable. For the Son to not have the Omni Attributes would make Him not God which is the Kenosis heresy I referenced.
Give me a break .. you have no idea what the rational of Jesus was .. but in any case .. this is a losing position .. as he is clearly distinguishing himself from "The Father" regardless of how he has avoided sin .. or how good he is .. and what the meaning of that part is.
Satan .. remember him .. Do you seriously think Satan would ask God to bow down to him ? .. and even if you do .. or can mind bend your way around that one .. there is no way the Mark or any of Christianity at the time would have accepted this .. they would have burned the book outright .. Mark would never have wrote such a thing .. and he didn't .. because neither the author nor the audience believed that Jesus was God .. and Satan Didn't either .. nor did Jesus apparently for not bitch slapping Satan for asking the Father to Bow to him.
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