Phoneman777 said:
...then how can anyone who no longer possesses agape be any longer numbered with the saints? The answer is that they are not.
Neither present nor future will be able to separate the elect from agape love..
Rom 8:33 ESV Who shall bring any charge against
God’s elect? It is God who justifies.
Rom 8:35 ESV
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
Rom 8:38-39 ESV For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers,
nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the
love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 11:28-29 NIV As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned,
they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29for God’s gifts and his call are
irrevocable.
Jude 1:1 NIV Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called,
who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:
What does it mean to be "in Christ Jesus our Lord" in Rom 8:39 ESV...
Rom 5:5 NIV And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out
his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
Rom 8:1 NIV Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are
in Christ Jesus
1 Cor 1:30 NIV
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
Eph 1:13-14 NIV
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
- ATP