Atheist friends mock me about Noah and the Ark

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Dcopymope

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River Jordan said:
I'm always fascinated at how angry and hateful so many fundamentalists seem to be. Makes me wonder what's really going on. <_<

Well I can sit here and call YOU trash if it makes this all better for you. After all, you are trash in the eyes of God anyway, a scumbag. Hell, in the book of Job, humanity and the son of man himself are referred to as nothing more than a worm in the eyes of God. This is what Jesus looked like to God on the cross before his Resurrection. Remember, as he reconciled the sins of the world onto him, he looked so detestable to the Father in heaven that he had to look away.


Then answered Bildad the Shuhite, and said,
2 Dominion and fear are with him, he maketh peace in his high places.
3 Is there any number of his armies? and upon whom doth not his light arise?
4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
And yet, you sir, in your pride, seem to believe that you are something more than a scumbag. We are all scumbags in the eyes of the Lord, and will remain as such until the Day of the Lord when we are translated into our glorified, Christ like, non-scumbag bodies. God the Father doesn't actually see anything in you in of itself that's redeemable except through the blood atonement of his son. You are saved, not because of your perceived inherent 'goodness', for there is only one thing in all of existence that is good, and that is God. This ain't got nothing to do with hate, this is scripture. So I am perfectly justified by the word in referring to Atheists or anyone else for that matter as trash, and the emphasis are on heathens.
 

michaelvpardo

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River Jordan said:
No, they didn't.
So they found a large buried structure, roughly the same dimensions as that given in scripture for the ark, complete with large leveling stones (which would have been hung from the corners of the floating box and lowered to some depth to help keep the thing from tipping over) at the base of Mt. Ararat, which isn't really the ark but makes for a nice tourist attraction. I'm curious but what do you think a large box with "anchors" associated with it was intended to do miles away from any body of water? Or, why would someone supply multiple "anchors" to a mound of dirt?

<a href="http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah"data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah" s_ark.htm"="">http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

This site has been featured in documentaries and has historically been identified with the resting place of Noah's ark and while the evidence isn't conclusive it remains compelling and in agreement with what little is said in scripture about it.
 

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Gen 8:3b-4 . . At the end of one hundred and fifty days the waters
diminished, so that in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the
month, the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.

The Hebrew word for "Ararat" is from 'Ararat (ar-aw-rat') which appears
three more times in the Bible: one at 2Kgs 19:36-37, one at Isa 37:36-38,
and one at Jer 51:27. Ararat is always the country of Armenia: never a
specific mountain by the same name.

The Hebrew word for "mountains" in Gen 8:4 is haareey which is the plural
of har (har). It doesn't always mean a prominent land mass like Everest or
McKinley; especially when it's plural. Har can also mean a range of hills or
highlands; like the region of Israel where Miriam's cousin Elizabeth lived.

"At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of
Judea, where she entered Zechariah's home and greeted Elizabeth." (Luke
1:39-40)

In California, where I lived as a kid, the local elevation 35 miles east of San
Diego, in the town of Alpine, was about 2,000 feet above sea level. There
were plenty of meadows with pasture and good soil. In fact much of it was
very good ranchland and quite a few people in that area raised horses and
cows. We ourselves kept about five hundred chickens, and a few goats and
calves. We lived in the mountains of San Diego; but we didn't live up on top
of one of its mountains like Viejas, Lyon's, or Cuyamaca.

The ark contained the only surviving souls of man and animal on the entire
planet. Does it really make good sense to strand them up on a mountain
peak where they might risk death and injury descending it?

When my wife and I visited the San Diego zoo together back in the early
1980's, we noticed that the Giraffes' area had no fence around it. The tour
guide told us the Giraffes' enclosure doesn't need a fence because their area
is up on a plateau 3 feet high. The Giraffes don't try to escape because
they're afraid of heights. There's just no way Giraffes could've climbed down
off of Turkey's Mount Ararat. It's way too steep and rugged. Those poor
timid creatures would've been stranded up there and died; and so would
hippos, elephants, and flightless birds like penguins.

So; what happened to the ark? Well; according to the dimensions given at
Gen 6:15, the ark was shaped like what the beautiful minds call a right
rectangular prism; which is nothing in the world but the shape of a common
shoe box. So most of the lumber and logs used in its construction would've
been nice and straight; which is perfect for putting together houses, fences,
barns, corrals, stables, gates, hog troughs, mangers, and outhouses.

I think it's safe to assume that Noah and his kin gradually dismantled the
ark over time and used the wood for many other purposes, including fires.
Nobody cooked or heated their homes or their bath and laundry water using
refined fossil fuels and/or electricity and steam in those days, so everybody
needed to keep on hand a pretty fair-sized wood pile for their daily needs.

There was probably plenty of driftwood left behind by the Flood, but most of
that would be water-soaked at first. But according to Gen 6:14 the ark's
lumber was treated. So underneath the pitch it was still in pretty good shape
and should have been preserved for many years to come.

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