Attention Everyone

[April_Rose]

Okay, let's be friends.

My wedding anniversary actually happens to be on Valentine's day, so I will be busy then. Anyway, thanks for your warm welcome!

That's alright, I hope you have a really good anniversary and I'm just happy to make new friends. Maybe you can come to my luck of the Irish party though, it's going to be held all next month through Saint Patrick's Day. :) (Which Saint Patrick led a lot of the Irish to Christianity so there's actually a really important reason why we celebrate it. :) )

 

[Mayflower]

That's alright, I hope you have a really good anniversary and I'm just happy to make new friends. Maybe you can come to my luck of the Irish party though, it's going to be held all next month through Saint Patrick's Day. :) (Which Saint Patrick led a lot of the Irish to Christianity so there's actually a really important reason why we celebrate it. :) )

Only one you will really have issue here with is Halloween. That is because a holiday that promotes fear/monsters is not Godly. You do like a Fall party or something, Id probably participate next year. :)

 

[Lapidem]

There are babies among us my friend. People need to grow moving from crib to bed and crawl to walk before moving away from the covering of their parents.

So you believe shielding the "babies" from the views of others and from all the wider world perspectives that are reality, is a good thing for them?

I can't agree. It's conditioning. It's purposeful censoring of wider perspectives that everyone should be free to hear and explore in their own way.

 

[Mayflower]

So you believe shielding the "babies" from the views of others and from all the wider world perspectives that are reality, is a good thing for them?

I can't agree. It's conditioning. It's purposeful censoring of wider perspectives that everyone should be free to hear and explore in their own way.

I notice you have only responded here and in Christian debate. If you feel censored, you should try to post a thread. Then everyone exploring in there own way can come talk and discuss with you if they want to.

 

[April_Rose]

Only one you will really have issue here with is Halloween. That is because a holiday that promotes fear/monsters is not Godly. You do like a Fall party or something, Id probably participate next year. :)

I might do both because my Halloween party was a really big hit last year so I still want to do it as long as it's allowed.

 

[Lapidem]

Would it be cowardly for you to leave your pre-school aged children in the care of strangers?

Not necessarily no. But it's totally cowardly to put your babies through forced religious conditioning throughout the formative years of life which are then subsequently extremely hard to shake off. It's fear. It's the fear that if you were to wait until they were old enough to make an informed decision, to analyse, question and rationally appraise, that they might then not agree with your doctrine. There's an entire debate to be had on this topic.

Not being a believer why would you presume it would be crazy to a Christian believer?

Why do you assume I am not a believer? Just because I don't label myself a Christian? Have you any idea how ridiculous and pious such a suggestion is? There are millions of believers. They don't need to follow your personal interpretation of what a believer is. And I didn't suggest that it would be crazy to a Christian. I suggested that the general notion of debating worldly topics whilst purposely excluding the views of other people or demographics is crazy, which it is.

But... one does need to know God in order to understand that in God there are no contradictions even though it may seem that way to a carnal mind.

But we were not talking about God were we? We were talking about the Bible, and about a thread discussing the differences between the OT and NT. There are many contradictions in the Bible, it is literally riddled with them. So again I question why so-called "Christians" would seek to censor out the viewpoints of others on such topics.

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

It's the fear that if you were to wait until they were old enough to make an informed decision, to analyse, question and rationally appraise, that they might then not agree with your doctrine.

LOL - You think that Amadeus is afraid? That's pretty funny.

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

Why do you assume I am not a believer? Just because I don't label myself a Christian? Have you any idea how ridiculous and pious such a suggestion is? There are millions of believers. They don't need to follow your personal interpretation of what a believer is. And I didn't suggest that it would be crazy to a Christian. I suggested that the general notion of debating worldly topics whilst purposely excluding the views of other people or demographics is crazy, which it is.

With you're being so upset, maybe this isn't the best place for you.

 

[Lapidem]

I notice you have only responded here and in Christian debate. If you feel censored, you should try to post a thread. Then everyone exploring in there own way can come talk and discuss with you if they want to.

No, I am unable to post in the Christian Debate section which is what all this discussion has been about ! Thus yes, my views and those of others are censored and confined to a small corner of the forum away from the primary debate.

 

[Rudometkin]

No, I am unable to post in the Christian Debate section

You are debating Christians right here, and you are allowed to.

What is it you are really after?

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

No, I am unable to post in the Christian Debate section which is what all this discussion has been about ! Thus yes, my views and those of others are censored and confined to a small corner of the forum away from the primary debate.

You are more than welcome to establish your own forum that meets your needs. The rules are the rules.

 

[Lapidem]

You are debating Christians right here, and you are allowed to.

What is it you are really after?

I'm after equality. The right to debate with other people regardless of personal religious beliefs, personal political preferences or any other discriminating factors. I can't see how Christianity benefits by exercising discrimination against others and by censoring people's freedom of speech.

I'd like to contribute to various threads that currently reside in the Christian Debate area of the forum. Threads which are not remotely about Christianity or in any way confined to Christian beliefs. For example threads about Free Will vs Determinism, Vaccines, OT vs NT and so on.

This isn't difficult.

I question in fact why those threads reside in the "Christian Debate" section at all. Perhaps they could be moved into the "General Discussion" section where they probably should be. That way everyone could contribute.

 

[Rudometkin]

I'm after equality. The right to debate with other people regardless of personal religious beliefs, personal political preferences or any other discriminating factors. I can't see how Christianity benefits by exercising discrimination against others and by censoring people's freedom of speech.

I'd like to contribute to various threads that currently reside in the Christian Debate area of the forum. Threads which are not remotely about Christianity or in any way confined to Christian beliefs. For example threads about Free Will vs Determinism, Vaccines, OT vs NT and so on.

This isn't difficult.

I question in fact why those threads reside in the "Christian Debate" section at all. Perhaps they could be moved into the "General Discussion" section where they probably should be. That way everyone could contribute.

This is a website regarding personal religious beliefs.

Perhaps you're at a niche forum when you should be at a more general forum. You have clearly been welcomed regardless. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Mayflower]

I'm after equality. The right to debate with other people regardless of personal religious beliefs, personal political preferences or any other discriminating factors. I can't see how Christianity benefits by exercising discrimination against others and by censoring people's freedom of speech.

I'd like to contribute to various threads that currently reside in the Christian Debate area of the forum. Threads which are not remotely about Christianity or in any way confined to Christian beliefs. For example threads about Free Will vs Determinism, Vaccines, OT vs NT and so on.

This isn't difficult.

I question in fact why those threads reside in the "Christian Debate" section at all. Perhaps they could be moved into the "General Discussion" section where they probably should be. That way everyone could contribute.

@Heart2Soul
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@Josho

They may be able to help you. But it is like a country. You have to be a citizen to enjoy all the benefits. Bloom where you are planted.

 

[Lapidem]

This is a website regarding personal religious beliefs..

Yep I get that, but it happens to also be discussing matters that are not related specifically to personal religious beliefs.

I'm not asking to have freedom to post in "Christian Fellowship" or "Praise and Worship" type areas. I am simply asking to be able to post in threads which are of a more general nature or which are not specific to religious beliefs.

All this said I am now utterly confused because some of the threads I HAVE contributed to now appear in the Christian Debate section.

I wonder if they started out in the General Discussion area and got moved into the Christian Debate thread?

Either way I can't contribute any further to them, the system says I have insufficient privileges.

What gives?

 

[April_Rose]

You know in the words of the legendary Dodger,.. fairs are for tourists. In this life it's not always going to be fair. So why get all bent out of shape about it? Why should I worry when there's nothing to worry about? Catch ya later @Lapidem. :cool:

 

[Rudometkin]

What gives?

Staff gives you permission to start your own threads here to debate.

Threads here were moved because they shouldn't have been here to begin with. They were started by Christians.

 

[Lapidem]

Staff gives you permission to start your own threads here to debate.

Threads here were moved because they shouldn't have been here to begin with. They were started by Christians.

You're missing my point. How have I been able to make posts in say Cristo Rei's thread entitled "The Experimental Needles Don't Work" when that thread is in the Christian Debate section? The system says I have insufficient privileges to post there. Was the thread moved from general Discussion?

 

[Mayflower]

You're missing my point. How have I been able to make posts in say Cristo Rei's thread entitled "The Experimental Needles Don't Work" when that thread is in the Christian Debate section? The system says I have insufficient privileges to post there. Was the thread moved from general Discussion?

I see your point...that would be frustrating if you were first allowed.

 

[Mayflower]

It might be interesting to have a general debate thread and general fellowship thread for general topics. It is probably where the confusion comes from. "General." Im surprised there isnt an insufficient privelege message for Christians starting threads in non christian sections. I know nothing about coding or anything, but prolly is what caused the confusion here.