So you would have leadership that don't err or leadership that don't accept correction?
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Jim B
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Perhaps in slang usage. The Italian word for father is padre.
Your quote from Isaiah has nothing to do with the Pope. Here it is in context...
‘At that time I will summon my servant Eliakim, son of Hilkiah. I will put your robe on him, tie your belt around him, and transfer your authority to him. He will become a protector of the residents of Jerusalem and of the people of Judah. I will place the key to the house of David on his shoulder. When he opens the door, no one can close it; when he closes the door, no one can open it. I will fasten him like a peg into a solid place; he will bring honor and respect to his father’s family. His father’s family will gain increasing prominence because of him, including the offspring and the offshoots. All the small containers, including the bowls and all the jars, will hang from this peg.’ Isaiah 20:22-24
Not required to do what I have already DONE!
Jesus IS the Word of God...Already submitted TO Him.
Christ IS the Power of God...Already submitted TO Him.
You are preaching “beginner” theology...and expand it to ‘forever” what “any” words a Priest, or titled person within your church speaks...
You can wander aimlessly waiting for your catholic cleric to read for you, decide what it means, and tell you .... or become a man hear the High Priest Jesus Himself tells you, and tells you what His Words mean.
Freewill. Choices.
You and I make different choices.
What do we call out father if using the word can only refer to God. I don't remember Jesus teaching another word to use for our fa***r
Matt 1:
[20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
[21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
[22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
[23] Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
[25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
DO give your explanation OF the Angel of the Lord giving Joseph a FALSE DIRECTION.
DO give your explanation OF Joseph NOT DOING what the Angel of the Lord Directed Joseph TO DO.
DO give your explanation OF Joseph and Many being told SOMETHING DIFFERENT than every other manKIND of Gods creation...
Where is Joseph and Mary TOLD to NOT “multiply”?
Jim B
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You are 100% correct!
The Catholic people have put their faith and trust in living men -- their clergy -- instead of the living Word: Christ. They believe what those men tell them to believe, regardless if it is scriptural or not, and confess their sins to them and receive a recipe for forgiveness (x number of Hail Mary prayers), and surround themselves with statutes of dead people to whom they pray. The worst offense is depicting Jesus as dead, still hanging on the cross! It is obscene!!!
Jim B
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As I have told theefaith over and over and over, Jesus had brothers. So apparently, Joseph and Mary "multiplied" numerous times, just like the other people that God created with normal sexual desires.
This hyping of Mary's "perpetual virginity" puts a stigma on women that it is impossible for them to live up to. Men hold them to a bizarre standard of "sexual purity" that is unrealistic.
That's a claim to authority you don't have. Unless what you believe the Word is and means is what Christ believes and means
Jim B
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I have no idea what you're trying to say. Do you think that the Catholic clergy's doctrine exceeds the truth of Christ? I hope not!
If I understand your cryptic statement correctly, of course believe that the Word is and means is what Christ believes and means. I do not believe anything that the Catholic clergy teaches that differs from what Christ teaches by the Holy Spirit and the Bible.
line of David Lk 1:32-33
I will place the key to the house of David on his shoulder.
Matt 16:18-19 I give thee the keys to the kingdom
wife spouse does not equal
Sex
For the sake of our salvation a higher good they sacrificed sex a lower good
Wonder why they couldn't take care of her after Jesus died. Why Mary couldn't just live with her adult children? That would need explaining
Jim B
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So the Pope is a Jew? That's news to me!
Matthew 16:23, " But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but on man’s.”
So? Why tell me? I am already forever with the Lord God Almighty.
satan speaking thru Peter
Or Peter using human wisdom
He had not yet received the power of the Holy Spirit Jn 20:21-23
Jesus told the Apostles ' those who hear you hear me'
If it's wrong for me to give the clergy that authority because according to you it belongs to the Word as you see it. You claim authority I give them. Good question
you’re not!
You can fall away
Reject and deny Christ
Become an apostate
2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
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