Rest Your case?
I never made an argument it should not be changed. I did the opposite. I said to look at context. Then said to look at the definition of the original word. (my response was not even concerning that verse. it was about what happened at the cross)
You should try to understand and not just make assumptions. Because you were wrong in your assumption (you know what you do when you Assume?)
In the case of the water, Turmoil would be more applicable than an earthquake. so I would agree with you here
Please pay more attention when you respond.
If you had stopped and considered my post, I stated that you had given the usual argument that I receive against translating "Seismos" as turmoil rather than earthquake. I also gave examples where the translation of "seismos" as earthquake is illogical. I had also presented the context and the meaning of the Greek word “seisomos” as snips off of my computer screen as insertions in my first post, #14
Let us consider, as an example, the seventh Bowl Judgement as recorded by John in Rev 16:17-21 and consider the historical markers given in verse 19.
Revelation 16:18-19: - 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake/turmoil, such a mighty and great earthquake/turmoil as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now (the first historical marker) the great city was divided into three parts, and (the second historical marker during this time period) the cities of the nations fell. And (the third historical marker) great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.
The first historical marker is 1948, when the UN divided Jerusalem into three distinct districts, under the control of Britain, Jordan and the UN itself.
The second historical marker is associated with the cities around Jerusalem being captured by the British and Australian campaigns in the Middle East during WW1.
The third historical marker is associated with the establishment of Iraq in 1926 when Britain and France divided up the Middle East between them because of the Oil that was found there.
Now these three historical markers occurred during the 20th century. Also, during this time period, the world was in turmoil because of the First and Second World Wars. Yes, there were earthquakes occurring during this period, but the magnitude and consequences of earthquakes start to increase towards the later part of the 20th century. The last two verses of the 7th bowl judgement also confirm this understanding where it speaks of the plague of great hailstones falling from heaven: -
Revelation 16:20-21: - 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent. Men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great.
Sadly, many are looking for physical earthquakes as the signs given in the scriptures that will occur during the end times. Yes earthquakes are occurring and the number of larger magnitude quakes is presently increasing, but this is within the context of the creation groaning because of the sins of the people of the earth. It can be shown that the phenomena of the climatic temperature increase of the earth is prophetically predicted, and a consequence of the bulk temperature of the earth increasing is an increase in the number of earthquakes and volcanoes occurring as a means of relieving the increasing internal pressures within the earth.
If we are to be consistent with the translated meaning of the Greek word “seismos” in the New Testament, then it is my view that “seismos” should be translated as “turmoil” wherever it is found in the Greek text.
This is not the only translation flaw that I am aware of. Another if the use of the English word, “forever” where the Hebrew words have a finite meaning and not an infinite meaning is time as the English Word “forever” conveys. This has led to a wrong understanding with respect to the length of time that Israel will have possession of the “Promised Land.” The Promised Land as set out in Genesis 15 is a solemn confirmation covenant undertaking by God that when Abraham’s descendants have possession and dominion over the described, that they can also believe that at some point in the future, they will also be given possession of the whole earth.
Christians believe that we will be given possession of the whole earth during Eternity, and the same promise was made to Abraham and His descendants as well. Daniel 7:27 confirms this.
Understanding the “flaws” in the scripture and the changes needed to correct these misunderstandings is becoming more and more important for us as we approach the seventh, i.e. the Millennium, Age of the existence of mankind as they are leading us into sin.
Shalom