Body of Christ never mentioned in Revelation, but The Bride is.

[Episkopos]

Hi Epi,
Yes, the "guests" is something we were speaking about one time when we were on Voom. And, it has haunted me since then. There was some kind of ecumenical gathering at the Episcopal Church that runs the Center I go to often last week, and it got me back to wondering about them (guests) not just Christians but all faiths. so then, this is all YOUR fault!!!

The modern doctrine seeks to take the righteousness away from the righteous and make normal human righteousness to be God's own righteousness. This lowers the standard so much that anyone can claim to be as righteous as God while still being a sinner. AND it denies that others who are doing much better than we are...are simply just not saved like we are...so we can justify ourselves by stepping on them and saying they are going to hell. :) Sure sounds righteous huh? ;) But that is the sign of the times. Never mind that we can actually go into the righteousness of God and live like the early church did. But that is seen as too hard and requires too much faith. Taking things away from others to build ourselves up is WAY easier.

Is. 5:23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

They who claim to be under the righteousness of God by taking away the common righteousness of men are building with wood hay and stubble.

Is. 5:24 Therefore, as the fire devours the stubble, And the flame consumes the chaff, So their root will be as rottenness, And their blossom will ascend like dust; Because they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts, And despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

 

[Waiting on him]

Ha, not many around today! Nor men for that matter :)

In His kingdom there’s not male or female if His Seed (Gospel) is in you then you, raise children too Him. The Old Testament is full of this example, when the brother is dead the surviving brother is to take wife of the lost brothers wife and??
It’s pretty clear for me the bride has already descended.

 

[Waiting on him]

Ha, not many around today! Nor men for that matter :)

This virtuous woman is the Holy Spirit, OT scriptures verifying this.

 

[Waiting on him]

Once again John sees it descending at the baptism of Jesus.

 

[Nancy]

This virtuous woman is the Holy Spirit, OT scriptures verifying this.

Hmm. I do see allot about a virtuous woman in the scriptures, especially Proverbs, and there, mostly speaking about wives.. (been reading Psalms and Proverbs for a week now and want to do that for 3 months, every day) but, I cannot agree that The Holy Spirit has a gender, lol.

 

[Episkopos]

The bride of Christ is a small subset of the body of Christ. Just like when Eve was taken from one rib of Adam's chest....that which was next to his heart.

 

[Nancy]

The bride of Christ is a small subset of the body of Christ. Just like when Eve was taken from one rib of Adam's chest....that which was next to his heart.

Ahh, yer gettin all deep again :O hahaha...so, do you mean the rest of the Body as opposed to the Bride are not as close to God?

 

[Waiting on him]

Hmm. I do see allot about a virtuous woman in the scriptures, especially Proverbs, and there, mostly speaking about wives.. (been reading Psalms and Proverbs for a week now and want to do that for 3 months, every day) but, I cannot agree that The Holy Spirit has a gender, lol.

Proverbs 3:13-18 KJV
[13] Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. [14] For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. [15] She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. [16] Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. [17] Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. [18] She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.


This isn’t referring to some mans human wife.

Tecarta Bible

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Hi Epi,
Yes, the "guests" is something we were speaking about one time when we were on Voom. And, it has haunted me since then. There was some kind of ecumenical gathering at the Episcopal Church that runs the Center I go to often last week, and it got me back to wondering about them (guests) not just Christians but all faiths. so then, this is all YOUR fault!!!

the challenge seems to be when we start assigning higher statures and pecking orders to what He said those who lack are given more of those who have so no part has need or lack. For instance “friends”...all of it we want to assign lower roles and “labels” to all His parts...no different than the government we already see working in and of the world.

 

[Nancy]

Proverbs 3:13-18 KJV
[13] Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. [14] For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold. [15] She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her. [16] Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. [17] Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. [18] She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.


This isn’t referring to some mans human wife.

Tecarta Bible

No it's not but it IS speaking directly to "wisdom"...IMHO.

 

[Waiting on him]

No it's not but it IS speaking directly to "wisdom"...IMHO.

Which comes from God.

 

[Episkopos]

Ahh, yer gettin all deep again :O hahaha...so, do you mean the rest of the Body as opposed to the Bride are not as close to God?

We all follow the Lord from different distances. So few walk in the Spirit...and not too many are led by the Spirit. Many turn to God when He is needed...but are just fine on heir own most of the time.

 

[Waiting on him]

Proverbs 1:20-23 KJV
[20] Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: [21] She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, [22] How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? [23] Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.


Tecarta Bible

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Proverbs 1:20-23 KJV
[20] Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: [21] She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, [22] How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? [23] Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.


Tecarta Bible

1 Corinthians 2:10-13 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. [11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

So few walk in the Spirit.

hopefully that is not true as the fruits of the Spirit are what remain (those works of God) tried by Fire and not burned up.1 Peter 1:7-8 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: [8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:


James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

 

[Base12]

This would imply the bride is the Holy Spirit

Pearls of Wisdom...

Revelation 21:21
"And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass"

And...

Proverbs 3:18
"She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her"

 

[Waiting on him]

Pearls of Wisdom...

Revelation 21:21
"And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass"

And...

Proverbs 3:18
"She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her"

Brings to mind Onnan I believe it was that cast his seed on the ground and God was not pleased, then Jesus says don’t cast your pearls before swine.

 

[Episkopos]

hopefully that is not true as the fruits of the Spirit are what remain (those works of God) tried by Fire and not burned up.1 Peter 1:7-8 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: [8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:


James 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

We can still bear an eternal kind of fruit by being LED by the Spirit...which is far less than walking IN the Spirit (as Jesus did). There is a difference between someone who is abiding in Christ and one who goes to Christ for direction...or is listening to God's voice.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Length of days is in her right hand;

 

[Waiting on him]

Abraham received strength and entered in even at 100, the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.