If people here knew you the way that God does , they would vomit.....that goes DOUBLE for me......who on “ EARTH” do you think you are fooling? Not me.Not God.
Born again Christans DO NOT SIN!
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If people here knew you the way that God does , they would vomit.....that goes DOUBLE for me......who on “ EARTH” do you think you are fooling? Not me.Not God.
CharismaticLady
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ChristisGod
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so anyone who disagrees with your position is the world and not a believer.
Got it.......................................................
thanks but no thanks.
ChristisGod
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I don’t hate you at all, in fact..... I like you a lot.....I just think your Doctrine is Nuts....
.....I’m just making a point for anybody with a modicum of self-insight or common sense....people misunderstand verses like Hebrews 10 and “ think” they have to be Perfect and then delude themselves into thinking that they “ Are” so that they can sleep at night.....a false and sad existence....
I believe we are to strive as much as is possible against sin. But I don't think all sin can be extricated in this life while in the flesh. We are more sinful than we realize.
AMEN! True Christians are Obedient.....The “ Engine” that drives the type of Obedience that God desires is a Natural Outgrowth Of Love .....Resting in the Gospel Of Grace , knowing that you are Forgiven Forever, no after what happens because you Rest in the Finished Work Of the Cross is what Spurs this Love......If you are being Obedient based on Fear.....well, that is better than being an Overt Sinner, But in a Sense you are really just “ spinning your wheels.....”
CharismaticLady
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Disagree all you want. I've learned things on Christian forums. But we can disagree and not HATE one another with vicious posts can't we. It is those that hate that are of the world. I thought you knew the Word. That is what Jesus was talking about.
CharismaticLady
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Then show me with scripture where I'm wrong. But if all you've got is 1 John 1 or Romans 7, or that Paul was a card carrying sinner don't bother. I've already shown that 6, 8 and 10; and 14-25 is about those still in darkness under the Law. And that Paul was FORMERLY a sinner, worse than any other apostle.
ChristisGod
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since the poster said he does not hate you then you have sinned against your brother and have falsely accused him.
so there goes 44 years down the drain.
ChristisGod
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yes we are not perfected and sinless until the Resurrection of our bodies.
I don’t need Scripture .....are you married? Let me talk to your Spouse for five minutes to investigate your “ Perfection”.......
In Galatians 6, Paul refers to Born Again Believers “caught up in Sin” ......even James admits that we all “ stumble in many ways”....
Your Doctrine is simply too Silly to argue about and you will never see the Light ....just continue to take comfort in a delusion that lets you sleep at night.....simply because you misunderstand a few Bible verses that you refuse to investigate.....such an unnecessary shame....
CharismaticLady
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LOL. Bearing false witness is when you know the truth about them and lie about them. He was acting like he hated me, which hasn't been anything new. So you have sinned against me.
Don't forget about judging when it can come back and bite ya! "Judge not, that ye be not judged." How do you like them apples!
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CharismaticLady
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My doctrine is scriptural, but is foolishness or "silly" to the carnal man. I know you've read this passage a number of times and claims it is for everyone but you. But this time, read it slowly. It will be to you like looking in a mirror.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
1 John 3:5-9
1 John 3:21-24
Romans 6:6-7
Romans 8:1-9
1 John 1:7
shall I go on...
Please do not go on.....computer ink is much too valuable to waste.....I don’t argue with people that say they have no sin. I also do not argue with those that claim that the Earth is flat.
ChristisGod
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CharismaticLady
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LOL That reminds me of my Chiropractor's brother. He actually believes the earth is flat. And my Chiropractor doesn't believe we landed on the moon. Strange family. But great doctors.
CharismaticLady
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Sin has to be known to you for God to not automatically cleanse you as long as you are His and keeping his commandments; and when He gives you a new one, to keep it also.
1 John 1:7
Philippians 3:16
You seem to still be my accuser. Don't follow after the accuser of the brethren. That is hate.
If a person who knows he is sinning denies it there is a serious problem.
If a person who is not sinning simply confirms that he is not sinning, I could understand doubting his statement but absent proof, why would we open our mouths to accuse him of falsehood... because you don't believe you can do that?
Is that not what his accusers tried to do to Jesus as they conspired against him?
Why do you believe that Jesus did not sin?
What did John write about us, the believers?
"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2
Is it also written that we can in no case see him as he is before the dirt is finally thrown over our faces? Did not Jesus overcome the world of his own temptations before he went to the cross? Why would it be impossible for God to do the same thing in us if we are fully and continuously yielded to Him? Is God not able?
"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Mark 10:27
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