Eternally Grateful
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Jesus said, whoever believes in him will NEVER DIE.I thought that was your belief…it isn’t mine. If you can’t lose your salvation because you think that eternal life means that you can’t, then you misunderstand what “eternal life” really is. The word translated as “eternal“ is “aiōnios”….which means….
No life brought into existence by God is without a beginning.…but according to his word, those who prove faithful to their death will receive the crown of life. Proving faithful to death is the challenge, but the OSAS believers don’t seem to understand that effort is need to obtain everlasting life. (Luke 13:24)
- “without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be
- without beginning
- without end, never to cease, everlasting”
If you read John 3 4 5 and 6, he says the same thing in every passage..
OSAS believe they will never die, because Jesus said it.
forgive us for believing God keeps his promise
Do what?What you call “eternal life” was never really “eternal” at all. There is a difference between “everlasting life” or “life without end” and “eternal life”. Only one Being in existence is eternal…and that is the Father, who has always existed and always will.
Never die, does this mean you will die? does it mean you can die? Does it mean you can fall back to death?
Jesus told us this AFTER we are born again..
Who can attain it? No one can.What humans can attain is “everlasting life” in immortality, granted to the elect upon their resurrection to heaven.…and also to those who pass the final test at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ and his chosen ones, everlasting life is promised.
But God is offering it to you. will you recieve it?
then how could they "lose salvation"I never did…you are putting words in my mouth again.
Anyone who claims to be “born again”, and lives a sinful life is kidding themselves IMO.
You do not teach you need to save yourself. you do not need to earn your eternal life (merit) And you have to keep yourself saved?I teach no such thing…..
again see below, your words..
Aunty Jane said:
The only one who can keep us “saved” is ourselves….by our own conduct in harmony with Christ’s teachings.
Effort is required to stay “blameless and innocent”. We can ask God to help us to fight the sinful inclinations in us……but there is no sanction or excuse for sin…ever. There are no “loopholes” in God’s laws
Do not falsly accuse me again.
Well thanks for your warning, But eternity is to long for me to just put any confidence in myself. I will trust God and his promiseI simply disagree strongly with the OSAS belief…..you are welcome to it, but the one thing you will never be able to do is claim ignorance because someone didn’t call you out for claiming something to be the truth, when scripturally, it plainly isn’t.