Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

[Marilyn C]

Christ is Ruling now and always was Ruling

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God

Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases.

Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”

25But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

And having come near, Jesus spoke to them, saying, “All authority in heaven and on the earth was given to Me.

John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from Him who is and was and is to come, and from the seven spirits before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

So i ask you again = How is it that you do not know??? = You need to read more carefully = ALL of Scripture

Jesus has the authority, however His Father has asked Him to `Sit at my right hand TILL I make your enemies your footstool.` (Ps. 110: 1)

That has not happened yet, but very soon I believe.

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus has the authority, however His Father has asked Him to `Sit at my right hand TILL I make your enemies your footstool.` (Ps. 110: 1)

That has not happened yet, but very soon I believe.

But do you know why that has not happened yet?

 

[Marilyn C]

But do you know why that has not happened yet?

Yes. Because God the Father has not as yet brought the Lord`s enemies, (nations Ps. 2) to His be His footstool. The first nation/Federation is Russia, (from the north - Zech. 6: 8 Joel 2: 20 Ez. 38: 15).

`I will turn you around and put hooks in your jaws, and lead you out.....` (Ez. 38: 4)

God the Father will do this and then the Lord will move to His own throne with His Body and rule from there. (Rev. 3: 21)

`Rule in the midst of your enemies!` (Ps. 110: 2)

 

[Truth7t7]

I'm not arguing against what you submitted. I fully agree with you. Except I don't take it to be involving a literal temple, in the event you do. I'm arguing against the idea that great tribulation begins with the DOTL, that great tribulation involves the DOTL. No it doesn't, and the OP clearly proves it doesn't. And since great tribulation can't be involving the DOTL, this tells us that great tribulation can't be involving God's wrath upon unbelieving Jews in the first century, but must be involving satan's wrath upon the church in it's closing days leading up to the end of this age. thus the 42 month reign of the beast, and not involving 70 AD instead.

The book of Revelation is seen in "Parallel" teachings of same events, not "Chronological" as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Example: Revelation 11:18 Is The One And Only Final Judgement, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15 in Final Judgement

"Fact" The Scripture Below Teaches (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) Are On This Earth Together To See The "Last Day" Where The 7th Angel Sounds (The End) In Final Judgement

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Truth7t7]

God the Father will do this and then the Lord will move to His own throne with His Body and rule from there. (Rev. 3: 21)

`Rule in the midst of your enemies!` (Ps. 110: 2)

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