Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

[rwb]

Open your eyes and READ and PRAY for understanding the Gospel and Acts and the Apostles Letters and Revelation

And you audaciously think that I have not!!!

 

[Marilyn C]

Who scoffing at the Coming of Christ???

My Hope is in the LORD = HE is Coming Again to Raise the Saints who died in Him = 1 Thess 4:13-18

So i ask you again = Who is scoffing at the Holy Scriptures?

Certainly those who reject the Prophecy and Commandments of the LORD Jesus Christ

Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven,cand all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

TERRIBLE sin @Marilyn C to scoff at the Prophecy of the LORD Jesus Christ

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!

21The grace of the Lord Jesusd be with all the saints.e

So, if you think the northern army in Joel 2 that God drives away into a barren land is the second coming of the Lord. That northern army comes down to Israel`s mountains and kills many Israelis. How is that God judging the world`s armies in the Valley of Jehosaphat and the Lord striking the men of the armies so that their flesh dissolves while they stand on their feet. (Joel 3 Zech. 14: 12)