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Don’t worry. A thorough investigation will reveal the facts of this case.
Amen, Prayer Warrior. Giuliani hasn't been known as a man of veracity much like his master, Trump. This damages the case of the Biden emails, I think.
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Don’t worry. A thorough investigation will reveal the facts of this case.
Huh?Amen, Prayer Warrior. Giuliani hasn't been known as a man of veracity much like his master, Trump. This damages the case of the Biden emails, I think.
Huh?
I would say the character of the witness is always relevant, but sometimes the evidence speaks for itself. ^^^When evidence is given, Prayer Warrior, sometimes, the character of the witness becomes relevant as well as its source.
I have to say @Giuliano I see more gossip coming from you than from the women....It's amusing since Michael Cohen says Giuliani is drunk most of the time himself.
Yep, YOU NAILED THAT ONE. Rudy Giuliani bought the "NEW YORK POST" newspaper so that he could produce a BUNCH of FAKE E-MAILS about a MEETING between JOE BIDEN and a Burisma Executive; FAKE PICTURES & VIDEO of HUNTER (Robert Hunter Biden) having intimate relations with women and PUBLISH THE GOREY DETAILS; and Joe Biden hasn't said one DENIAL or his Lawyers made one LAWSUIT.... It looks to me like another half-baked scheme from Rudy Giuliani to smear Biden. ...
I would say the character of the witness is always relevant, but sometimes the evidence speaks for itself.
I have a feeling we ain't seen nothin' yet! I'm predicting an avalanche of evidence against the former VP. I just hope it gets out in time.Yep, YOU NAILED THAT ONE. Rudy Giuliani bought the "NEW YORK POST" newspaper so that he could produce a BUNCH of FAKE E-MAILS about a MEETING between JOE BIDEN and a Burisma Executive; FAKE PICTURES & VIDEO of HUNTER (Robert Hunter Biden) having intimate relations with women and PUBLISH THE GOREY DETAILS; and Joe Biden hasn't said one DENIAL or his Lawyers made one LAWSUIT.
Ummmmmmmmm, certainly there is something FAKE, and it's @Giuliano 's FAKE HONESTY! :)
But it could be WORSE, -- if ALL Christians were as "HONEST".
Bobby Jo
I have to say @Giuliano I see more gossip coming from you than from the women....This is evil.
You should read the American Thinker article I just posted.The evidence in this case may speak for itself, Prayer Warrior. If it's derived from a Russian disinformation specialists, it will, perforce become questionable in a court of law and may be impeached or disallowed later on
In September 2019, Giuliani got into a shouting match on CNN and admitted asking Ukraine for help in digging up dirt on Biden. He was seeking foreign influence on the American election.When evidence is given, Prayer Warrior, sometimes, the character of the witness becomes relevant as well as its source.
Wow, this video is so heavily edited, it's impossible to determine context of any statements made. This is bad journalism. I would expect no better from The Washington Post!In September 2019, Giuliani got into a shouting match on CNN and admitted asking Ukraine for help in digging up dirt on Biden. He was seeking foreign influence on the American election.
But if people want to look at what is being said about Biden, I think it fair to look at who's saying it.
It looks to me like another half-baked scheme from Rudy Giuliani to smear Biden. What else does the Trump campaign have?
What interests me at the moment about the NY Post article are the many inconsistencies and the possibility that there was another Russian attempt to influence another election. I find it fascinating too that Steve Bannon is involved somehow. He too his share of globe-trotting trying to curry favor with politicians from other nations.
Bannon is already facing criminal charges. So far Giuliani hasn't been indicted; but some of his pals have been. I'll skip the part about the plot of his friends to defraud investors and get to the political stuff.
Former Associates of Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas, David Correia, Charged with Conspiring to Defraud Investors | Chief Investment Officer
Parnas and Correia were also charged along with Igor Fruman and Andrey Kukushkin in a four-count indictment alleging that they conspired to violate the ban on political donations and contributions by foreign nationals.I wonder if the illegal contributions were to Democrats or Republicans?
In addition to several charges related to violating election laws that carry prison sentences ranging from five to 20 years, Parnas and Correia were charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.
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Well, Parnas is now cooperating with prosecutors; and my guess is he, if anyone, has a good idea where the phone came from.
I was also amused that Giuliani said Hunter was drunk when he showed up to drop off the phone. The people at the store said they couldn't identify the person.
It's amusing since Michael Cohen says Giuliani is drunk most of the time himself. I think he might be plastered in this photo taken of him with Parnas. Why couldn't he wipe his own mouth? Good grief!
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If Rudy wants to smear other people to curry favor with Trump, it's probably fair to scrutinize him. I don't find him a reliable trustworthy person.
He lied terribly four years ago, trying to damage Hillary Clinton.
Giuliani sorry for falsely accusing Clinton of claiming to be in NYC on 9/11
Donald Trump surrogate and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani lobbed a new false charge against Hillary Clinton — that she claimed to have been in the city on 9/11. He admitted a few hours later that he was incorrect.
"But I heard her say one day that she was there that day," Giuliani said at a Trump rally in Ocala, Florida. "I was there that day. I don't remember seeing Hillary Clinton there."
Giuliani later recanted the assertion. "I made a mistake. I'm wrong and I apologize," Giuliani told The Associated Press Wednesday.
What else could he do after photos of her walking beside him surfaced? Okay if someone says Hillary lies, I'll agree -- but the fact remains Giuliani is a notorious liar himself. Her being a liar doesn't make him a honest person. I'd trust him as far as I could throw a horse.
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Is this all you have to say? This works both ways, you know. You've been complaining about Trump ad nauseum, but do you think that what Biden has done is okay?Exactly, my point. That's the reason why I disregard all of the sanctimonious political rhetoric coming from Trump's supporters. Why should we listen to any of them wailing about Biden when they don't have an ounce of moral credibility to stand on because they support Trump?
If honesty and the personal noble character of the President was truly an important moral issue for these conservatives who moan about Biden, then they wouldn't politically support Trump, let alone defend him or repeatedly disregard his own blatantly unchristian behavior.
YWow, this video is so heavily edited, it's impossible to determine context of any statements made. This is bad journalism. I would expect no better from The Washington Post!
When the FBI says these things are true, I may find them a lot more credible.October 17, 2020
Beyond Hunter’s MacBook: Email account of his ex-busines partner reveals high level Chinese group bought hidden access to Biden at the White House
By Thomas Lifson
The evidence establishing a shocking pattern is now clear: Hunter Biden and his busines partners sold access to Joe Biden when he was the Obama administration’s point man on China. This took place during the period when US jobs were being exported to China by the millions. Hunter earned many millions of dollars and funneled a share of that money to his father, in return for selling out American workers.
An entirely new source – a business partner of Hunter Biden who has “flipped” and granted full access (i.e., his username password) to years of his Gmail email account – reveals that access to then-VP Biden in the White House was granted in 2011 to a high level group of member of the Chinese Communist Party with a keen interest in US trade policy, as that policy was being formulated.
Breitbart has an exclusive story, co-authored by Peter Schweizer, who received access to the email trove of Bevan Cooney, formerly Hunter Biden’s partner in crime, and now serving time in federal prison for a fraud that he claims he was the fall guy for, taking the heat for Hunter.
Moreover, the MacBook hard drive emails have been authenticated by at least two people whose emails were found on it and who verify that the hard drive contains their true communications.
The long and detailed Breitbart article should be read in full to understand the magnitude of the email records. The 23,000 emails on it are still being reviewed, and more will be released in the days ahead. Here are few words of context from it:
From prison, Cooney provided Schweizer with written authorization, his email account name, and password to his Gmail account to retrieve these emails. He authorized, in writing, the publication of these emails— notable because it is the first time a close associate has publicly confirmed Hunter’s trading on his father’s influence.
The emails offer a unique window into just how the Biden universe conducted business during the Obama-Biden Administration. These associates sought to trade on Hunter Biden’s relationship with, and access to, his father and the Obama-Biden White House in order to generate business.
For instance, on November 5, 2011, one of Archer’s business contacts forwarded him an email teasing an opportunity to gain “potentially outstanding new clients” by helping to arrange White House meetings for a group of Chinese executives and government officials. The group was the China Entrepreneur Club (CEC) and the delegation included Chinese billionaires, Chinese Communist Party loyalists, and at least one “respected diplomat” from Beijing. Despite its benign name, CEC has been called “a second foreign ministry” for the People’s Republic of China—a communist government that closely controls most businesses in its country. CEC was established in 2006 by a group of businessmen and Chinese government diplomats.
CEC’s leadership boasts numerous senior members of the Chinese Communist Party, including Wang Zhongyu (“vice chairman of the 10th CPPCC National Committee and deputy secretary of the Party group”), Ma Weihua (director of multiple Chinese Communist Party offices), and Jiang Xipei (member of the Chinese Communist Party and representative of the 16th National Congress), among others.
The visit was logged in at the White House, but thegroup's meeting with VP Biden was concealed. However, proof that it took place was found on the internet because a member of the group boasted about it:
Curiously, the Obama-Biden visitor logs do not mention any meeting with Vice President Joe Biden. But the Vice President’s off-the-books meeting was revealed by one of the core founders of the CEC. In an obscure document listing the CEC members’ biographies, CEC Secretary General Maggie Cheng alleges that she facilitated the CEC delegation meetings in Washington in 2011 and boasts of the Washington establishment figures that CEC met with. The first name she dropped was that of Vice President Joe Biden.
Read the rest of this article here: https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...idden_access_to_biden_at_the_white_house.html
You also seem to find CNN, ABC News, MSNBC, the Washington Post, etc. to be credible.When the FBI says these things are true, I may find them a lot more credible.