Calling all Law Keepers.

[KBCid]

I believe our friend mjrhealth shares the same frustration that I do. The when we read "today is the day of salvation", and that we "have become a new creation" that "old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" - we take that to mean "It is finished."
And is saddens us that you should be caught up in a snare any longer:

You can certainly take anything to mean anything that makes you happy. Does it mean that your taking matches God's intending? God's word whether spoken or read is a snare to all who don't really care / love to be like them.
The fact that we do not see things the same way on most critical points means one of two things either you are veiled or I am veiled. Now suppose for a moment that I am not veiled and you are trying change my point of view to "save me", What in fact would you be doing If you succeeded?

Of course there is no chance at this point that you can succeed since based on past interactions you would likely be hard pressed just tell me God's first words....

 

[KBCid]

Gave up being frustrated, Gods had to deal with it since forever. If Jesus cannot convince men of the truth.... we just do our little bit. Jesus first evey thing else is secondary,

Actually it's the Father first according to Christ.... but who am I to tell you the truth?

 

[KBCid]

hopefully no Catholics will wander in here, i have no desire to debate this...stuff, and the RCC is beleaguered enough i guess. But yikes.

That would depend on if you carry the mark.

 

[bbyrd009]

And is saddens us that you should be caught up in a snare any longer:

yes, imagine how we feel though

Be not over-righteous, nor show thyself too wise, why art thou desolate?

 

[bbyrd009]

Gave up being frustrated

ha pls, your first name is Frustrated, i could quote it in every, single post bro. I mean don't get me wrong, i understand, i even deal with it myself, just like any believer, but see that it is another thing to be overcome at least

 

[KBCid]

<hearty chuckle> That's too funny! Well played Sir!
That makes two of us.
At least you would consider me as Abimelech. That's better than Jeroboam! And please, feel free to challenge me!
Jam 5:19 My brethren, if any among you err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 let him know, that he who converteth a sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins.
Seems I read something to that effect somewhere else... hmm, where would that have been I wonder... <grin>
Besides, I could use all the covering I can get.
I don't recall anything currently. But if something comes to mind, I shall be sure to inquire. Thanks for an enjoyable discussion! It is greatly appreciated.

I was feeling a little Adamic....lol

Wait... Abimelech.... umm is that a little golden calf on a chain I see round your neck....

Yes Joy.... I have waited a long time Richard.

THEY DO EXIST!!!!!

 

[Helen]

Did you ever notice that Judas partoke of the bread, but not the cup?

Maybe so...but we are told Judas dipped his bread into the cup of bitter herbs...
which includes salt...therefore when 'he went out' he was breaking the covenant of salt.
I've always enjoyed the story of Sisera and Jael ....( Judges) I read that Sisera could only have appealed to her for refuge if his house and hers house had 'cut a covenant' of salt. ( Which agrees to save each others life, whatever comes)

..Sisera wanted to be hidden behind the second curtain..HER private area which no strange man could enter!! THAT was the reason she brought him "butter in a lordly dish" when he only asked for water...the butter would have been the salted buttermilk to drink. Hence in her giving him salt.. reminding him of their salt covenant. But, he had broken his side of the covenant by entering too far into her tent...therefore she could legally kill him for doing what was forbidden. Even though they had cut covenant.

I wonder what went through Judas' mind as he dipped with Jesus into the dish of bitter herbs. Could he have done it without "Satan entering in to him.."...?
I wonder.

 

[Helen]

LOL I have just noticed I was reading two pages back..slowly catching up now.

 

[mjrhealth]

Actually it's the Father first according to Christ.... but who am I to tell you the truth?

Our salvation is in Christ . not God. And since Christ God and teh Holy spirit all agree with as one, it matters not.

 

[mjrhealth]

ha pls, your first name is Frustrated, i could quote it in every, single post bro. I mean don't get me wrong, i understand, i even deal with it myself, just like any believer, but see that it is another thing to be overcome at least

Jesus did teh overcoming we just have to learn to agree with Him

 

[ScottA]

You can certainly take anything to mean anything that makes you happy. Does it mean that your taking matches God's intending? God's word whether spoken or read is a snare to all who don't really care / love to be like them.
The fact that we do not see things the same way on most critical points means one of two things either you are veiled or I am veiled. Now suppose for a moment that I am not veiled and you are trying change my point of view to "save me", What in fact would you be doing If you succeeded?

Of course there is no chance at this point that you can succeed since based on past interactions you would likely be hard pressed just tell me God's first words....

That is a lot of sidestepping of many points of clear scripture. Nevertheless, you shall have it your way. Nighty night then.

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus did teh overcoming we just have to learn to agree with Him

then you are commanded to overcome in vain, i guess.

 

[mjrhealth]

Actually it's the Father first according to Christ.... but who am I to tell you the truth?

Forgot to mention, Christ is teh truth in Him you will find no lie, and when people turn to and follow Him than with the Holy Spirit He will teach us as He sees fit. He cant help it men would rather know the bible than Him.

Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

God has so many disobedient children and so few friends.

 

[mjrhealth]

then you are commanded to overcome in vain, i guess.

Well hardest thing to over come is lack of faith, once you get over that, the rest seems rather trivail. Dont see much faith here do you...

And yes you are right, far to many would rather be religious and study to bother with the rest. Thats not overcoming.

 

[bbyrd009]

Well hardest thing to over come is lack of faith, once you get over that, the rest seems rather trivail. Dont see much faith here do you...

?

i see lots of faith, myself. Ppl don't pick a Christian site over porn or entertainment lightly, i don't think?

Why are you so desolate? See that this is speaking to your particular perception, at least imo, i might be wrong

 

[mjrhealth]

i see lots of faith, myself. Ppl don't pick a Christian site over porn or entertainment lightly, i don't think?

Why are you so desolate? See that this is speaking to your particular perception, at least imo, i might be wrong

I guess you missed this bit

Luk_18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Faith is no walk in teh park, if you think it is so easy, the enemy doesnt like those who even think to try walk in faith, he loves to tear then down and make there lives miserable. Remember Job, remember Saul/Paul and all he had to suffer. Christianity is not about church and reading teh bible, its about walking with Christ, being Led by teh Spirit, and not giving up when all the walls fall in on your life, as seems to happen a lot to those who choose Him over the world.

Teh question is what do you want out of this..

 

[bbyrd009]

Teh question is what do you want out of this.

no, that is avoiding the question, literally, but if i were to say "to lead you to Christ, because i see that you are suffering," how would that make you feel?

 

[KBCid]

KBCid said: ↑ Actually it's the Father first according to Christ.... but who am I to tell you the truth?

Forgot to mention, Christ is teh truth in Him you will find no lie, and when people turn to and follow Him than with the Holy Spirit He will teach us as He sees fit. He cant help it men would rather know the bible than Him.
Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
God has so many disobedient children and so few friends.

I don't see this as a reply to my post so I assume you are just continuing with the previous rant on why the bible is a distraction from Christ.
So, it must be assumed then that you have taken the log out of your own eye since you feel that you can tell others how to follow the path by throwing the bible away, nice.

So tell me since all you see is Christ and you are his friend and you must be covered under the new covenant that has no need for the bible any more....
Define the number of laws his Father has placed in your heart and mind?
Note that this number is never defined in the Bible and can only be spiritually discerned since all that was written states;

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them .

So if as you assert the bible is essentially a distraction from Christ this should be a simple request to answer since I'm not even asking you a question about what is in the bible but rather what should have been put into your heart and mind if in fact you have turned fully to them and are now confident in preaching the truth to others.

 

[KBCid]

no, that is avoiding the question, literally.....

Have you noticed yet how both Scott and him get on the soap box and spew without ever really interfacing with the posters they reply too? You could have literally said anything.... """"aeirnpngareungapuergurguuhrnghrgrugh"""" and a reply would have come regardless of content. It may be that they are so busy only seeing Christ that they don't actually see any replies to the denigrating content they are sending or maybe possibly there is a posting contest going on and we are just not aware of it.

 

[KBCid]

That is a lot of sidestepping of many points of clear scripture. Nevertheless, you shall have it your way. Nighty night then.

Right of course it is.
You must be right because you have the truth....
Do you tire of standing on the soap box or have you run out of things to spew at the evil people?