Can a Christian be a Democrat?

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GodsGrace

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I already said I can't quote scripture, not that I'm ignorant of it, just I know what I've read and I have to search to prove so. So are you saying He goes by whatever we call him?
Or implying it doesn't matter?
Prov30:4 Isa42:8/65:11 Psalm9:10/83:18/135:13 1Kings18:21 Jer23:26-27 this one for sure
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We're a pretty nice bunch here...feel free to say what's on your mind.
To tell you the truth, I don't really understand what you're saying, but you have a love for Jesus and that's all that matters.
 

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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.
 

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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.

I will ignore those who say that your thoughts are irrelevant because they are not.

We are to engage society to be able to share the gospel and that won't happen in the political realm if we keep clear of it.

Every Christian need to examine themselves in regards to this question as if they don't they may be voting for child murderers. I would NEVER vote for a candidate whose party actively promote the murder of babies in the womb regardless of what other good things they do.

Liberal Christians often don't have a problem with that probably because they don't believe what the bible says anyway.

To me, someone who says they are a christian and approves of the murder of babies in the womb is telling lies. Even animals do not do this so how can we claim to be human if that is what we do?

All over western society, there has been a polarisation in the political realm. It has swung to the right or to the left. Under Obama who seemed to take his orders from Satan and legalised all sorts of sin, to Trump who has attempted to wrest America back from the brink of Sodom and Gomorrah.

In the UK and Australia, cultural Marxism has taken over in many parts of society, not least the schools. The biggest casualty in all this is the truth which the left/socialists cannot handle so they shout their lies loud enough and long enough and it becomes the truth.

We Christians can sit by and let all this happen or we can get involved and proclaim the truth. As Edmund Burke said all it needs for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

So the question is, what are you doing to counteract evil? I am glad to say there are many who are trying to counteract the diabolical act of abortion and are succeeding. They chose not to say that it is nothing to do with me.

Today there are thousands of children walking the streets of America because of the efforts of the people that did not wash their hands and chose not to get involved.
 

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I certainly can't see every heart. But based on the words of their leaders, Pelosi and others, abortion seems to be a chief stone in their platform. While not a republican either more of them speak against abortion.
We must vote for the man or woman who we can believe, if politicians can be believed.

I never thought I'd seethe day when this country was in such a state. Policies advocated now were once treasonous.

May God direct us all through these times.

Why must we vote at all? It is God who puts rulers in their place and removes rulers from their place. Just a question.
 
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I didn't vote because my choices were a. The most arrogant woman in the world and b. The most arrogant man in the world. How could I support either of them in their arrogance?
 
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Is there any doubt that if you or I had pulled some of the antics the Clintons and sundry others have that we would be serving hard time in a federal penitentiary?

For some reason God, the great overseer and judge of all, has kept these from justice and judgement. For Behghazi alone there should be immediate retribution. There is something ahead for all these who believe they've gotten away from their wicked deeds and justice. Delay is not escape.

Ecclesiastes 8:11 KJVS
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

God's grist wheels of judgement grind exceeding slow but they grind exceeding fine.

David was angry when he saw that the rich seemed to escape affliction and judgement until God showed him their end. The end of the wicked, rich or poor, is a fearful, dreadful thing.

Psalm 73:17-19 KJVS
Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
[18] Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
[19] How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

You can see the workings of Satan's agents in our political culture. The very things they accused Trump and others of they had alredy performed.

Satan leans on and tempts man to do horrible things. If that person gives in to the temptations then immediately Satan reverses his role and becomes an accuser of those he tempted. These very same tactics can be seen at play in the liberal leftist leadership of the democratic party. Yes others are indeed imperfect but the democrats are the devil's spokesmen for the murder of the innocents. This murder of millions America will be brought to judgement for.

Man being an eternal being is judged in the afterlife before God. Nations such as America being temporal are judged in the here and now. We see this in Germany and Japan. Germany was divided for the biblical forty years.

Democratic party activist C. Ford

Dr. Christine Ford out of sheer hatred for Trump, Trump's followers and his so far successful economic policies, decided she wanted to be a cook and whip up a dish to serve Brett Kavanaugh. She's now finding that it's much hotter in the kitchen than she imagined. She is also finding that not all have a taste for her cooking. She refuses to testify except on Her terms. Her lawyers terms that is. She will not prosper in her bitterness. She does not wish justice. She wishes destruction.

No matter what the label on a person the bitterness and hatred in their hearts will show through.

One pastor we had many years ago put it very well and I always remembered his words. "When you meet a person they may be able to fool you for a little while. Perhaps for a long while. But sooner or later whatever they really flow in is going to begin to flow".

Jesus put it like this.

Luke 6:45 KJVS
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

When leaders stand up and advocate evil, promoting it to be good, then those that agree with them are deciding against God, against God's word and against God's people.

Seeing as how God elected my wife and myself to be blessed with a foretold son, we thus became dedicated spokesmen for the lives of the speechless unborn. We buried a daughter killed by the devices of Satan. We shall meet again and rejoice before the face of Jesus who made us all.

For those that believe they decided upon when and how many children they would bring into this world, they are mistaken. God first placed the desire for those babies in their hearts. God gives the desires of the heart. That is, he places in hearts those desires that he intends to bring to fruition. At the proper season those desire seeds burst forth and grow.

God plants the desire for children but the evil uproot what God has planted and give it another name, abortion, which is
not so caustic upon the ears as murder or "sacrifices unto devils". Men rename evil deeds so their ears are not offended.

Not preferring any political party but I am observing that the denocratic party is chief spokesman for the murder of babies planted by God.

How many wonderful people that would have been a boon to America have been whisked away by the surgeons hands? Doctors, mothers, inventors of lifesaving medicines, good hearted leaders, Christian workers, peacemakers and countless others in the millions and millions of lives cut short by the bloodied hands of the baby reapers.

I was reading Exodus yesterday and thought I saw something...maybe not, don't know, but at another time in history, the Egyptians tried to hinder Gods people from growing so they would not become more numerous. They tried to get the midwives to perform "late stage abortions." Okay, that was said a bit sarcastically.

So I thought I could see something similar, but also different...and I thought it might have something to do with trying to prevent or stall "when the time of the gentiles is full."

Probably sounds crazy...
 

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The Idea of a Republican form of Government is for an individual to BE FREE to take care of themselves.

The Idea of "infusion" of "Democracy" was to the extent of establishing a government that was "to be Elected by those" who would be "governed" by and through the Offices of the "Elected" officials.

The Idea of "Democracy" regarding the "promotion" of "the governed, electing the governors"....has become its own MONSTER..expanded, progressed...beyond Democracy TO...Social Liberal Communism.

KEEPING the SAME NAME, of Democracy... WHILE "every act, promotion, expansion, progression" IS "social liberal Communism"...
WHICH IS ...
Nothing short of a FEW confiscating ALL Wealth and then DICTATING and doling out scraps to WHO can and can not have and HOW muchlittle.

IS as Deceptive and Fraudlent as;
A foreigner, pretending to be a citizen...
A married man, pretending to be single...
A borrower, pretending he will repay...
A liar, demanding the Truth...
A cheater, demanding fairness....
A thief, demanding payment...
A fraud, demanding justice...
The Unaborted, claiming abortion is optional..
A man claiming allegience to the Lord...when he is not.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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The title is the post. In my brief life I've never seen so much hate, so many lies, so much adversity from those than say the are Christian and also democrats. I try to stay away from most of what is called news, the daily body count, etc. But I do want to know the gist of governmental going on like the Kavanaugh confirmation. I see that the accuser of Kavanaugh is finding the kitchen a lot hotter place to cook than she thought. She has agreed to testify IF on her terms. Democrats vow to impeach him if confirmed. What a job to have!

My belief is than multitudes that believe themselves to be Christians are not. Church attendance deceives many to believe they are Christians but they still stand up for abortion and other anti biblical beliefs. So many of the democrats are Catholics but still support abortion and putting illegal immigrants before citizens. They spit in the face of those immigrants that labored to become citizens.

There is no way you can be a Democrat and a born again follower of Jesus christ.

These are my beliefs but may not be yours.
I know many people who register as a Democrat when voting but they do not support the ideas of the radical left....I guess they are called conservative democrats....and they are Christians.
 
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The Idea of a Republican form of Government is for an individual to BE FREE to take care of themselves.

The Idea of "infusion" of "Democracy" was to the extent of establishing a government that was "to be Elected by those" who would be "governed" by and through the Offices of the "Elected" officials.

The Idea of "Democracy" regarding the "promotion" of "the governed, electing the governors"....has become its own MONSTER..expanded, progressed...beyond Democracy TO...Social Liberal Communism.

KEEPING the SAME NAME, of Democracy... WHILE "every act, promotion, expansion, progression" IS "social liberal Communism"...
WHICH IS ...
Nothing short of a FEW confiscating ALL Wealth and then DICTATING and doling out scraps to WHO can and can not have and HOW muchlittle.

IS as Deceptive and Fraudlent as;
A foreigner, pretending to be a citizen...
A married man, pretending to be single...
A borrower, pretending he will repay...
A liar, demanding the Truth...
A cheater, demanding fairness....
A thief, demanding payment...
A fraud, demanding justice...
The Unaborted, claiming abortion is optional..
A man claiming allegience to the Lord...when he is not.

Glory to God,
Taken

@Taken, You must be a woman....your posts are so smart! :D :D :D Only palyin witchall ♥♥
 

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Good thing no human can determine who is a real Christian and who isn’t.

Also, no liberal I know is for legal abortion because they like the idea of ending a life. Nor, any conservative, who wants to see babies abandoned or thrown into our horrific fostercare system or raised by drug addicted parents. We need to work together for solutions or we will remain clowns in this political ‘wedge isssue circus’. Abortion is not about life and death to politicians who are raking the coals - it is about voter loyalty and role call

Same goes for guns
 
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I know many people who register as a Democrat when voting but they do not support the ideas of the radical left....I guess they are called conservative democrats....and they are Christians.
There is no such thing as *conservative Democrats*. They are just fooling themselves.

The Democrat agenda is to attack (1) conservatives and conservative values, (2) Christians and Christian values, and (3) patriots and patriotic values. They would sooner see the enemies of the USA bring it to it knees than support anything that is right and righteous. Just listen to all the garbage emanating from the Democrats.

At any other time in history, today's Democrats would be branded as traitors and lined up before a firing squad. And so would the RINOS (Republicans in Name Only). The majority of Republican politicians are also traitors. Check their voting records.
 

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Also, anyone who is flipping out about gun restrictions better lock up their guns and anyone who is against abortion better foster or adopt a child.

Here is an amazing incident that happen in the city I lived in - I went to go and get a job at a former place of employment and they were not hiring because the place had lost 2/3 of the kids in residence. Why? LDS people in the area had adopted them or fostered them. Seriously!

That is putting your action where your mouth is.
 
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There is no such thing as *conservative Democrats*. They are just fooling themselves.

The Democrat agenda is to attack (1) conservatives and conservative values, (2) Christians and Christian values, and (3) patriots and patriotic values. They would sooner see the enemies of the USA bring it to it knees than support anything that is right and righteous. Just listen to all the garbage emanating from the Democrats.

At any other time in history, today's Democrats would be branded as traitors and lined up before a firing squad. And so would the RINOS (Republicans in Name Only). The majority of Republican politicians are also traitors. Check their voting records.
Well for one my mother and father, and my favorite uncle are all democrats and none of them support the liberal agendas. So you are incorrect in your understanding about "all democrats".
 
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Well for one my mother and father, and my favorite uncle are all democrats and none of them support the liberal agendas. So you are incorrect in your understanding about "all democrats".
Party loyalty at all costs disables vision and objectivity....nay, it blinds the participants to any good the other might have.
 

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One of the good things about our society today is our willingness to think about voting and worshipping outside the box set up for us.
 

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Party loyalty at all costs disables vision and objectivity....nay, it blinds the participants to any good the other might have.
Well me and my grandparents are republicans....but even so I wish there were no parties period.