So you believe in choice. He’s a straight Calvinist. You guys are patting each other on the back and you think that is unity? One of you is wrong. That should concern you more then being pen pals. I’m doing the most loving and respectful thing I know to do for him and you..Tell you and him your wrong and show you truth.
I like stories, so here is a work of complete fiction ...
John was sitting in the First Methodist Church one day, enjoying the organ music and thinking about the community Clothing Drive coming up this weekend. Being a solid Wesleyan Church they stressed the importance of spiritual discipline and personal Holiness ... taking very seriously the command to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” and the two sided Great Commandments to Love God and Love your neighbor. During the uplifting sermon, a certain passage gripped John by the heart.
- “How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!" [Rom 10:14-15]
John cannot shake the feeling that God was speaking those words directly to him. Motivated that he must do something, John talks to his neighbor Bob all about his Church and the sermon and the words that he can’t get out of his mind. After several hours of just talking, and a couple or three glasses of Southern Sweet Sun Tea, John finally explains to Bob that God said “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved, because by believing you are made right with God, and by confessing you are saved.” [Rom 10:9-10]
Bob is flabbergasted. The words pierced his heart [Acts 2:37]. Suddenly Bob cried out “What do I need to do?” [Acts 2:37]
“Just repent of your sins and turn to God. Then be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.” [Act 2:38] said John with a smile.
“That will square things between me and God?” asked Bob.
“Yup.” said John. “Not only will it square things, but then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” [Act 2:38]
So Bob repented and trusted in God right then and there. He was Baptized that Sunday at the First Methodist Church. They wanted to wait until he had finished the ‘Baptism’ class, but Bob was so excited and so insistent on not waiting another week and being baptized right away, that the Pastor sat down with him and went through the entire class that Saturday so Bob could be baptized on Sunday.
So the Holy Spirit did come to Bob and was his teacher to guide Bob into all the truth [John 16:13] just like John and the Bible said he would. Bob spent years as a happy, growing and productive Christian. His family noted the change, Bob’s increase in the Fruit of the Spirit, and in his walk with God and love for the Body of Christ, everyone commented that Bob was a workman that need not be ashamed. [2 Tim 2:15].
All through this, Bob was grateful to God for sending John. Bob was grateful to John for sharing the gospel. Bob was humbled that God would invite him into the family and relieved that he said ‘yes’ rather than ‘no’.
One day Bob was reading his Bible and came across the information that his salvation did not begin with Bob saying ‘yes’. It did not begin with John deciding to share the gospel. It did not even begin with the sermon at the First Methodist Church that touched John’s heart.
Bob read in his Bible that everything was worked out according to God’s purpose [Rom 8:28]. God FOREKNEW, like from eternity, and God PREDESTINED, like a sure thing, and God CALLED, using John and the First Methodist Church, and God JUSTIFIED ... and even the end is part of God’s purpose, because God GLORIFIED ... Bob [Rom 8:29-30].
Bob was stunned. All this time, Bob thought that he had chosen to say ‘yes’ to God, when in reality, God had said ‘yes’ to Bob before Bob was even born. Bob felt humbled and grateful and even more in awe of just how ‘Sovereign’ God really was.
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My question is a simple one. Is Bob any more or less saved believing that Bob chose God or that God chose Bob? Is God in any way, shape or form limited in His ability to save by ANYTHING that Bob understands correctly or incorrectly?
I don’t think that our OPINIONS have any impact on God’s SOVEREIGNTY.