amigo de christo
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Brother is happier than a fat kid in a candy store who has been given license to grab anything it so desires . .
I just keep spotting lovely gems from my dear sister .
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I just keep spotting lovely gems from my dear sister .
Brakelite
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From AI...
MY QUESTION...Did Ellen White ever say or write, " Sunday worshippers are of the devil"
ANSWER...
There is no evidence that Ellen White ever wrote or said the phrase "Sunday worshippers are of the devil." In her writings, Ellen White consistently taught that the seventh-day Sabbath is the biblical day of rest, and she warned that Sunday observance is a result of Satan's efforts to undermine God's law[3][8]. However, she did not directly condemn individual Sunday worshippers as being "of the devil."
Instead, White often described Sunday observance as part of a broader deception led by Satan, especially in the context of end-time events and the enforcement of Sunday laws[2][3][8]. She focused her strongest warnings on religious and civil authorities who promote Sunday sacredness in opposition to the biblical Sabbath, not on sincere individuals who worship on Sunday[2][3]. Her tone toward individuals was generally one of warning and appeal, not condemnation.
In summary, while Ellen White saw Sunday observance as a result of Satan's deception, she did not label Sunday worshippers themselves as "of the devil" in her writings[3][8].
Citations:
[1] Testimonies for the Church, vol. 5 - Ellen G. White Writings Testimonies for the Church, vol. 5
[2] The Push for a Sunday Law, November 12 - Ellen G. White® Estate Ellen G. White Estate: Daily Devotional - Homeward Bound
[3] Last Day Events - Ellen G. White Writings Last Day Events
[4] The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan Quotes - Goodreads The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan Quotes by Ellen Gould White
[5] The Lord's Day Controversy (22) - Ellen White Info The Lord’s Day Controversy (22)
[6] [PDF] Ellen White on Confrontation with Evil Spiritual Powers https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=jams
[7] The Spirits and the Sunday Law Issue, June 8 - Ellen G. White® Estate Ellen G. White Estate: Daily Devotional - Maranatha
[8] Chapter 9 - Sunday Laws - Digging For Truth https://www.diggingfortruth.org/spirit-of-prophecy/book---last-day-events/chapter
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So.
Two questions for you.
1. Seeing Ellen White never suggested such a thing, I assume you were meaning me. Now I happen to know you are lying. Does that make you 'of the devil'?
2. What denomination do you suggest that ticks all your boxes?
amigo de christo
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There is no denomination that ticks all the boxes . because they all twisted something.
The bible contains the words of GOD and such words must be taught and used to stir one another up with .
And if any prophet , any man does speak or teach
if them words in any way contradict what was written , then it must not be heeded but rather corrected .
To be zealous for a good thing is very good .
But to zealous for what is and has been prepared of men , IS NOT GOOD .
Men must be tested . Not just followed and sat under , but tested .
To those who do speak n teach truth , with those shall the sheep gather .
And the sheep will correct any in error as was the original pattern of the Church .
If anything allowed DISHONORS GOD , it must be corrected .
And sin does dishonor GOD . And not correcting it not only dishonors GOD
it allows the one in error to drown in destruction . Now that dont sound too loving to allow such a thing .
To allow things that dishonor GOD and to allow those to remain in such things , JUST AINT LOVE at all nor is it loving to your neighbor
NOR FIRSTMOST does it LOVE GOD , CHRIST . Its pretty simple really .
The bible contains the words of GOD and such words must be taught and used to stir one another up with .
And if any prophet , any man does speak or teach
if them words in any way contradict what was written , then it must not be heeded but rather corrected .
To be zealous for a good thing is very good .
But to zealous for what is and has been prepared of men , IS NOT GOOD .
Men must be tested . Not just followed and sat under , but tested .
To those who do speak n teach truth , with those shall the sheep gather .
And the sheep will correct any in error as was the original pattern of the Church .
If anything allowed DISHONORS GOD , it must be corrected .
And sin does dishonor GOD . And not correcting it not only dishonors GOD
it allows the one in error to drown in destruction . Now that dont sound too loving to allow such a thing .
To allow things that dishonor GOD and to allow those to remain in such things , JUST AINT LOVE at all nor is it loving to your neighbor
NOR FIRSTMOST does it LOVE GOD , CHRIST . Its pretty simple really .
amigo de christo
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Brakelite lets not cover it up shall we .
Just the words alone that you brought would have shown me
SHE did beleive such a thing . If one follows the delusion of satan , and remain in such delusion
HOW THEN can they BE OF GOD . they would be just as lost as i once was .
Beleive me when i say , SHE sure did beleive they were followers of satan . LOOK at your own words you brought .
As far as number two , read my above statement .
And then let us know and understand it is the duty of the sheep , specially the learned ones
TO correct any and all error , yes that means ALL sins .
So lets start with this simple truth .
I have no problem with one who celebrates the first sabbath rest given
SO long as they dont condemn one soul who goes to worship on another day .
My biggest beef with the SDA , and i dont know everything about it , IS that investigative judgment .
WHY can you not see that all she really did was
COVER for miller . NOW miller was a man setting dates ON CHRISTS RETURN for the church .
But rather than repenting , all of a sudden she cometh up with
OH HE just had the location of where JESUS was to come wrong .
HOW about this . MILLER was a date setter PEROID . and no date setter should have been heeded
IN the first place . AND if one did , REPENT OF IT rather than trying to justify it with some other cooked up idea .
David in NJ
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And thereby the SDA cult began = sunday is of the devil = sunday worshippers are under the deception of the devil
DEAD prophetess Ellen White is deeply regretting her devaluing of Christ and His Body
Like Mary, these two women are grieved by satan's deception to move hearts away from Christ and towards earth bound worship.
RCC , jw , SDA all have this in common = devalue CHRIST and/or make something of equal or greater value then Christ
"There is One who is wiser then Solomon" = Lord Jesus Christ
"There is One who is Greater then the Temple" = Lord Jesus Christ
"There is One who is Greater then saturday sabbath for HE is LORD of the sabbath" = LORD Jesus Christ
amigo de christo
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To the trenches for the last hour battle is upon us . And we gots many wolves in wool
that have led this people astray and lead them to the grand lie which will merge all under anti christ
in this final hour . Onwards in the LORD my friend .
amigo de christo
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I am sure my friend called david knew what i meant
when i said the first sabbath .
Now why do YOU think when i wrote to brakelite and used the words first sabbath , i said first sabbath .
Because ........
wait for it ...................................
wait for it , let us bask in the drum roll cause i already KNOW you know the answer ....................
Because even the first sabbath , as did the law , as did even abraham
as it was even mentioned in genesis
WOULD POINT TO THE TRUE SABBATH REST given ONLY IN JESUS THE CHRIST who IS OUR REST .
That might sound like blasphemy to some
BUT IT BE THE TRUTH .
GOD did rest from his works on the seventh day
but it sure seems many have not rested from theirs and go about
seeking the doctrines of men to guide them
MANY have NOT entered into THE REST OF GOD , the REST that giveth REST TO THE SOUL .
Here
is WHO that REST is that i speak of my friend .
HERE IS HIS WORDS . COME YE UNTO ME all ye who do LABOR and are weary
and YE SHALL FIND REST for your souls . AND THAT WAS EXACTLY WHO PAUL was talking about
WHEN writing to the HEBREWS and saying
What HE said . IT JESUS my friend . The first was all but a shadow of THE HEAVENLY AND THE TRUE
that was to come and be FULLFILLED IN CHRIST .
WHEREIN the sabbath IS CHRIST
THE TEMPLE is GOD AND THE LAMB
THE CITY IS HEAVENLY
many truly do not know this my friend .
WHERE THE ISRAEL is OF GOD . many do not know that either .
MANY been DUPED BY MEN .
David in NJ
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Genesis = the Foundation for all Truth that would follow = "IAM the Way the Truth the Life"
the Apostle Paul warned everyone of this and yet few SEE it
HalleluYAH
Spirit gives birth to Spirit
amigo de christo
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THERE IS ONE who is greater , but unfortunately for many , THEY KNOW NEITHER HIM
or HIS rest .
Many do not know WHO the ISRAEL , out of eygpt have i called my SON , ISRAEL TRULY IS .
This will highly anger your nar realm
This will truly tick off and anger many .
BUT THERE TRULY NOW IS ONLY ONE ISRAEL , ONE JERSUSALEM , ONE TEMPLE
ONE MOUNT ZION , ONE SABBATH
May i introduce HIS NAME . ITS JESUS THE CHRIST
GOD AND THE LAMB , FOR THE WORD WAS GOD , IS THIS .
THE earthen was but a shadow for a time TILL THE TRUE WOULD COME .
AND THE TRUE DID COME . AND NOW GOD commands THAT ALL MEN repent
TO BELIEVE on THIS NAME . THE TIME has COME
when the true worshippers DO WORSHIP GOD IN SPIRIT and IN TRUTH
The old had to be fullfilled FOR THE NEW to be ESTABLISHED .
TIME to preach THAT GLORIOUS TRUTH , THAT HOLY NAME , THAT TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD
wherein The body of that ISRAEL whose HEAD BE CHRIST , IS EVERY SINGLE BELEIVER IN JESUS
regaurdless of the flesh they was born in , whether jew or gentile .
ITS JESUS PREACHING TIME in the building .
Because lets face it . LETS all go ahead and sit down and ask ourselves
the very question a few of them apostels HAD asked JESUS himself .
AND what question is that .
As they marveled that they did ask HIM , THAT TODAYS SOLD OUT LOVEY DO
needs to ask .
IS THIS question . LORD who then can be saved .
AND the answer is
Not lovey do , not any who does all they can to try and fullfilll the two commandments .
CAUSE MAN CANNOT .
What is the simple answer given by THE GREATEST KING who ever walked this earth as a man .
HE said WITH MAN THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE . Not maybe there is a chance
if they just hugged and became one for world peace .
NO
HE SAID IMPOSSIBLE .
BUT IT DARN SURE IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD . AND GOD DETERMINED
exactly WHO would SAVE MAN and HOW MAN could be saved .
ANY GUESSES .
Cause its real darn simple .
GOD chose by the preaching of the gospel to save those WHO DO BELEIVE .
ITS ALL ABOUT BELEIVING IN JESUS THE CHRIST . but beware for many now beleive in another jesus and that one can not save either .
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amigo de christo
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And who taught me this .
THERE is now a reason i ask this .
What men did i sit under and learn this from .
NONE .
BIBLE TIME . BY grace all i have ever done is just read that bible for myself .
And by grace GOD has simply given me TRUTH and wisdom .
Not that i say i know it all cause that be a lie if i did .
But the reason i am saying this
is because MEN LIED TO US david . THEY LIED TO US
when they gave the impression that one cannot truly learn
the bible lest they sit under them , their greek , their hermes , THEIR WHATERVER .
IN fact the truth is , That what GOD did for me , who was one of the worst , HE WOULD do for any sheep .
BUT many just DO NOT have any true love FOR TRUTH and had rather sit under men who twist stuff .
amigo de christo
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David i noticed this grew longer after i read it the first time .
YES EVEN IN GENSIS was this presented .
Later even preached to ABRAHAM who called that moutain JEHOVAH JIREH .
Cause ABRAHAM DID SEE JESUS DAY and HE SURE DID REJOICE .
GOD SHALL INDEED PROVIDE A LAMB .
AND ALL NATIONS SHALL INDEED BY BLESSED by THIS SEED .
People would marvel at how much points to CHRIST .
OF course it does , GOD INSPIRED IT .
You ever wonder why paul could from morning to evening
expound to the jews Using torah . ITS ALL OVER IT .
But many hear not THE LAW , they hear NOT the prophets
and they KNOW NOT GOD and THE LAMB and are NOT HIS SHEEP .
And i already know all them false religoins and etc DONT
so brace yourself , cause the many i wrote about ARE EVEN WITHIN CHRISTENDOME . ITS NOT looking GOOD david .
amigo de christo
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My dear sister lizbeth has arrived .
Sister you do realize i have known you far longer than anyone else here .
SO i have a question for you .
Have you ever heard me POINT TO ME and say HEY JUST TRUST ME
OR rather for all those years have i not rather said
GET IN THE BIBLE to learn for yourselves , TEST all men
even myself . learn those bibles
And what gospel did i continously BY GRACE always preach .
DID i ever once bring in some wise sounding greek to make people understand
OR did just simple speak simple TRUTH .
And beleive you me sister , I DARN sure aint saying this to boast in me
CAUSE I KNOW the only goodness i even have COMETH of GOD
and that evil is present within my flesh . THE ONLY GOODNESS , RIGHTEOUSNESS we even have
COMETH OF GOD , OF HIS CHRIST .
SO i said it for one reason . MEN LIED TO US when they said People cannot learn the bible for themselves .
MEN lied to us
when some of them , NAMES you know , accused me of EGO and self
YET ALL I EVER POINTED TOO WAS JESUS as he and others put the cart before the horse .
WE got seriously bad problems in christendom sister .
AND outta love for this people , and no matter the cost to me for doing so , this lamb GOTS TO WARN .
Sister you do realize i have known you far longer than anyone else here .
SO i have a question for you .
Have you ever heard me POINT TO ME and say HEY JUST TRUST ME
OR rather for all those years have i not rather said
GET IN THE BIBLE to learn for yourselves , TEST all men
even myself . learn those bibles
And what gospel did i continously BY GRACE always preach .
DID i ever once bring in some wise sounding greek to make people understand
OR did just simple speak simple TRUTH .
And beleive you me sister , I DARN sure aint saying this to boast in me
CAUSE I KNOW the only goodness i even have COMETH of GOD
and that evil is present within my flesh . THE ONLY GOODNESS , RIGHTEOUSNESS we even have
COMETH OF GOD , OF HIS CHRIST .
SO i said it for one reason . MEN LIED TO US when they said People cannot learn the bible for themselves .
MEN lied to us
when some of them , NAMES you know , accused me of EGO and self
YET ALL I EVER POINTED TOO WAS JESUS as he and others put the cart before the horse .
WE got seriously bad problems in christendom sister .
AND outta love for this people , and no matter the cost to me for doing so , this lamb GOTS TO WARN .
Brakelite
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And so says someone who has never read one of her books, much like
who judges an intricate but biblically valid doctrine on the basis of the little he thinks he has learned from those those who oppose it and understand it as little as he does.
Brakelite
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Tell you what. I'll give you two titles to help you out.
Steps to Christ...The title of the book tells its mission. It points the reader to Jesus Christ as the only one who is able to meet the needs of the soul. It directs the feet of the doubting and halting to the pathway of peace. It leads the seeker after righteousness and wholeness of character, step by step, along the way of Christian living, to that experience where he can know the fullness of blessing which is found in the complete surrender of self. It reveals to him the secret of victory as it unfolds in simplicity the saving grace and the keeping power of the great Friend of all mankind. SC 5.3
Desire of Ages...It is the purpose of this book to set forth Jesus Christ as the one in whom every longing may be satisfied. There is many a "Life of Christ" written, excellent books, large funds of information, elaborate essays on chronology and contemporaneous history, customs, and events, with much of the teaching and many glimpses of the many-sided life of Jesus of Nazareth. Yet it may be truly said, "the half has never been told."
It is not, however, the purpose of this work to set forth a harmony of the gospels, or even to give in strictly chronological order the important events and wonderful lessons of the life of Christ; its purpose is to present the love of God as revealed in his Son, the divine beauty of the life of Christ, of which all may partake, and not to satisfy the desires of the merely curious nor the questionings of critics. But even as by the attraction of His own goodness of character Jesus drew His disciples unto Himself, and by His personal presence, by His sympathetic touch and feeling in all their infirmities and needs, and by His constant association, transformed their characters from the earthly to the heavenly, from the selfish to the sacrificing, from smallhearted ignorance and prejudice to largehearted knowledge and profound love for souls of all nations and races, even so it is the purpose of this book so to present the blessed Redeemer as to help the reader to come to Him face to face, heart to heart, and find in Him, even as did the disciples of old, Jesus the Mighty One, who saves "to the uttermost," and transforms to His own divine image all those who come unto God by Him. Yet how impossible it is to reveal His life! It is like attempting to put upon canvas the living rainbow; into characters of black and white the sweetest music.
David in NJ
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God's words take 1st Place in my heart = therefore everything i hear is placed at the Feet of JESUS
My prayer is that you will continue to fall in love with the LORD Jesus Christ and be filled with the Holy Spirit
For this reason I bow my knees to the Father [of our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.
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Respectfully, this post reveals the core problem of our age: we've traded the truth of Scripture for the comfort of subjectivity.
Doctrine isn’t born from environment—it’s born from revelation.
The Word of God is not a wax nose we shape around our upbringing. It’s a sword that cuts through culture, upbringing, and opinion alike (Hebrews 4:12).
Yes, preconceptions exist. But we’re not called to cling to them. We’re called to repent and be renewed by the transforming of our minds (Romans 12:2).
Spirituality isn’t an individualized journey—it’s a call to die to self, take up your cross, and follow the truth made flesh (Luke 9:23, John 14:6).
This isn’t about “your truth” and “my truth.” That’s postmodern nonsense dressed in spiritual language.
The real question isn’t, “What did your church teach you?” It’s: Will you bow to what God has actually said?
“Forever, O Lord, Your word is settled in heaven.” – Psalm 119:89
We don’t need more journeys. We need more surrender.
amigo de christo
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brakelite i read it for myself many years ago .
Its plain to see investigative judgment was naught but a cover up rather than repentance .
Many will soon merge more and more
as one under what they believe is truth , beleives is light , believe is love and of God .
NOT THIS SHEEP , nor any other sheep .
I weep for many now brakelite . THEY truly should have screeched the brakes
and came out of this mess .
They will weep and howl on the day of the LORD .
How i weep for this generation my friend .
But what can i say , if folks stay glued to they teacher
they GOING DOWN .
Cause that TEACHER SHOULD HAVE BEEN JESUS THE CHRIST
and though throughout all ages many have come in his name
and have claimed to preach HIS TRUTH , they been wolves in wool .
Of course not all were . But many were
and now its so darn bad Its next to impossible to find a true teacher of the Word of GOD from these men of belial .
ITs bad . real bad .
You have not yet gotten on the bandwagon phrase that all us
who lips the name of Jesus must somehow all be following him .
CAUSE I DARN SURE KNOW mormons dont , jw dont , and scores of others
to include and not omit THE VATICAN and RCC , nar realm and scores of others brakelite .
SHEEP DONT TRY and HUDDLE and HUG with those in dire danger and just try and get along .
THEY had warned anyone in any dangerous place of the dire necessity TO GET OUT of it .
But this generation SURE DONT DO THAT and worse its now mergining us with even the other religoins too .
Sure hopes we dont fall for the judge not correct not , lets just get along and find common ground wacked out mindset ..
But many have and more soon will .
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