Christian safe-haven in British Columbia

[2 Chr. 34:19]

The habitual/unrepentant bit looks promising, but everything else, not so sure :)

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Perhaps the whole world that men of flesh are able to perceive according their limited radar... but the truly safe haven should be within... Remember well the parables of Jesus and...

"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:21

"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear." Matt 13:13-16

Well the inner kngdom cannot protect us from th eevils that men would perform. Our brethren over the centuries have been martyred for the faith. but physical havens have beeen spoken of in Scripture often.

 

[amadeus]

Well the inner kngdom cannot protect us from th eevils that men would perform. Our brethren over the centuries have been martyred for the faith. but physical havens have beeen spoken of in Scripture often.

I would not say that God cannot protect our flesh from harm. Rather He very often does not for reasons sometimes we may be unable to understand. Paul knew when they prophesied to him about the dangers that lay before him on his journey, were true prophecies from God. He also knew he would go ahead into the danger because that was where God was directing him to go.

"And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.
Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done." Acts 21:11-14

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I would not say that God cannot protect our flesh from harm. Rather He very often does not for reasons sometimes we may be unable to understand. Paul knew when they prophesied to him about the dangers that lay before him on his journey, were true prophecies from God. He also knew he would go ahead into the danger because that was where God was directing him to go.

"And when he was come unto us, he took Paul's girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.
Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done." Acts 21:11-14

And I agree with all you say, so why did you write it to me as if I was not aware of these things?

 

[amadeus]

And I agree with all you say, so why did you write it to me as if I was not aware of these things?

Sorry... it was not my purpose to ruffle feathers. Rather sometimes I simply amplify to let whoever is reading see the a broader picture. People of many different walks and experiences pass through here. We may never know who else is reading.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Sorry... it was not my purpose to ruffle feathers. Rather sometimes I simply amplify to let whoever is reading see the a broader picture. People of many different walks and experiences pass through here. We may never know who else is reading.

OK so I am a sounding board. That is fine by me! Andyou didn't ruffle my feathers.

 

[Zachary]

The habitual/unrepentant bit looks promising, but everything else, not so sure :)

The first is from all over the NT, but not taught in the churches, right?
The second is just simply from the Lord.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

The first is from all over the NT, but not taught in the churches, right?
The second is just simply from the Lord.

Right. Obviously sin has to go!
As appealing as this seems, people have been deceived by ‘Christian commune’ ideology before. There is reason to be cautious according to recent history, yes?

 

[Jostler]

Very cautious..
...the history of communal performance is dismal among humans. What causes that? How can a Christian based community thrive in the Lord, and with each other? How do we prevent a strong willed person from turning it into a "follow me" cult instead of following Christ? All very good questions to be asking and praying about if led in this direction

 

[Jostler]

Among others.....

 

[Zachary]

Obviously sin has to go!

Yes, for years, the Lord has called me to WARN about
habitual (unrepentant) sin among believers!
There are countless NT verses about this.
E.G. Revelation 21:7 and 8.
21:7 ... overcoming believers are A-OK.
21:8 ... habitual sinning believers are NOT A-OK.
21:8 ... these sins refer to everyone, including "Christians".
21:8 ... Are unbelievers destroyed who habitually sin,
while believers are NOT destroyed who habitually sin?
Of course not ... that's ridiculous!
And please don't let any church tell you otherwise!

 

[Zachary]

How do we prevent a strong willed person from turning it
into a "follow me" cult instead of following Christ?

Since the Lord has ordained our safe-haven,
He will honor our prayers and intercession
and efforts re: open communication ...
to ensure the safe-haven will be successful.
Our safe-haven will be a co-operative,
and even the Administrator can be asked to leave!

 

[Triumph1300]

Very cautious..
...the history of communal performance is dismal among humans. What causes that? How can a Christian based community thrive in the Lord, and with each other? How do we prevent a strong willed person from turning it into a "follow me" cult instead of following Christ? All very good questions to be asking and praying about if led in this direction

Seems to be working ok in Hutterite Colonies.
At least the ones I am familiar with.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Since the Lord has ordained our safe-haven,
He will honor our prayers and intercession
and efforts re: open communication ...
to ensure the safe-haven will be successful.
Our safe-haven will be a co-operative,
and even the Administrator can be asked to leave!

The fact that someone has authority to evict and make homeless individuals who make the commitment concerns me. Especially with your views on habitual sinners.

 

[Zachary]

The fact that someone has authority to evict and make homeless individuals who make the commitment concerns me. Especially with your views on habitual sinners.

Not someone, but the co-operative community can vote
to ask anyone to leave, if they refuse to walk in unity.
The Lord has been continually stressing that LOVE and UNITY
are absolutely critical and mandatory in our safe-haven community
(for Him to continue to bless it and anoint us).

Truly, I do not have personal views on e.g. habitual sin,
but I simply post NT verses, which many members of
Christian forums choose to reject ... because they choose to go
with John 3:16, etc. without understanding what "believe" means.
It means a continuous belief, trust, faith, obedience!
This is the true saving faith.
And this is how to reconcile the so-called OSAS eternal security NT verses
with the many NT verses which oppose the so-called OSAS verses.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Man cannot stop what GOD has purposed . And HE will even purpose a strong delusion so that all who rejected
the love of the truth , THE JESUS must be confessed to be saved gospel , will go under a lie , Like all paths are valid all inclusive lie
and will be damned . This huge movement cannot be stopped . Its all part of the great delusion . But let no lamb believe it .
You be encouraged my friend . The original gospel is what we must cling too .
Now let the Lord be praised .

The Lord be praised.

 

[amigo de christo]

The Lord be praised.

Thats right dear sister . The glorious Lord be praised .
Lambs sing and have hope cause they know .........JESUS IS COMING .
Let us just try and visualize it . BOOM the sky rips and lambs be a flying HOME . Now that sounds like heaven to me .
OH and forever with HE who has saved us will the lambs be . Till then let us armour up cause this ol world
along with many churches will betray us .

 

[Keraz]

Since the Lord has ordained our safe-haven,

Really?
And yet living in a 'safe haven' is not what the Bible prophets tell us we should, must do before the shocking world changer of the Lord's Day of fiery wrath strikes. Isaiah 13:1-13, Isaiah 24:1-23, 2 Peter 3:7
We are told to hide under shelter for that 24 hour period; Isaiah 26:20-21, Isaiah 2:12-21, Revelation 6:12-17, +

What people simply don't understand, is what is our destiny, our purpose for living as the people of God.
It is to be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10, John 15:27 and His Light to the nations; Isaiah 49:3-8, Matthew 5:14-16. We do that now to be best of our ability, but the time is coming, after the Lord's Day of fiery wrath, when we will be all as one nation in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 66:6-14, a new nation, blessed by God, in all of the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-12, Romans 9:24-26

Isaiah 66:15-17 describes that terrible Day of storms and raging fire that will destroy all the enemies in the Middle East. Jeremiah 10:18, Jeremiah 12:14, Ezekiel 30:1-5
Isaiah 66:18b-21 describes our gathering and some of the Christians will become the Lord's priests. Revelation 5:9-10

 

[Zachary]

What people simply don't understand, is ...

IMO, there is plenty that you simply don't understand.

 

[Keraz]

IMO, there is plenty that you simply don't understand.

Look; you go ahead and set up your 'safe haven'. But don't fool yourself and your family and friends, that they won't be affected by what is soon to happen.
Bible prophecy is clear; ALL the world will be devastated and many will die around the world. Luke 21:34-35
Deuteronomy 32:41 When I set my hand to judgement, My sword will devour flesh.

Isaiah 66:16 The Lord will judge with fire and many will be slain by Him.

Psalms 37:9-10 & 20 For evildoers will be no more, their place will be empty. Evil people will die, they will be incinerated and will go up in smoke.

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace...on the Day the Lord takes action, all wicked peoples will be as ashes under your feet.

Zephaniah 1:3 & 11 I shall destroy humans and animals. Dire distress will come upon all the godless peoples, their blood and guts will spill over the ground.

Psalms 97:3-5 For My sword is ready and it descends upon those doomed for death. Fire goes ahead of the Lord and consumes His enemies on every side.

Isaiah 63:6 The Lord stamped on peoples in His anger, their blood poured out on the ground.

Isaiah 54:6 ...though the sky be dispersed, the earth be wasted and its inhabitants die like flies.

Jeremiah 25:33 Those whom the Lord has slain in that Day will lie scattered from one end of the earth to the other.

Jeremiah 9:22 Corpses will lie like dung in the fields, like swaths behind the reaper.

Isaiah 34:3 The dead will be flung out and will cover the ground, their bodies will stink.

Isaiah 13:12 Humans will become scarce, more rare than fine gold.


The nations who attack Israel;
Ezekiel 7:14-16 The trumpet has sounded, but no one goes to war, because their turmoil has called forth My wrath. Those outside will die and those in the cities, by plague and famine. If any escape to the hills, there I shall kill them, for their sins.

Isaiah 10:23 The Light of Israel will become a fire that will in one Day burn up and consume His enemies.

Jeremiah 49:37 I shall break Elam, [Iran] My fierce anger will bring disaster to them.

Psalms 83:13-15 Scatter them, Lord with Your fire and storm winds....

Habakkuk 3:13-14 You go forth to save Your people...the enemies are swept away.

Ezekiel 30:4-5 Egypt will suffer anguish, her slain will fall along with all the Arab lands.

Ezekiel 32:6 & 15 I shall drench Egypt with blood, the whole land will become empty.

Zephaniah 2:12 You Cushites [Africa] also will be slain by the sword of the Lord.

Jeremiah 50:27 Put all warriors to the sword, lead them to slaughter, for their time has come.

The Lord’s people, now every faithful Christian:
Isaiah 34:6 The Lord has a sword covered in blood.... He has a great slaughter in Bozrah and Edom. Bozrah- where the 10 tribes live. Edom- godless peoples.

Jeremiah 11:16 Once you were My people, now with a great noise, you will be burnt and consumed.

Isaiah 5:25 The Lord’s anger is roused against His people and as He strikes them down, the mountains shake. Their bodies lie like dung in the streets.

Ezekiel 21:3 & 8-11 My sword will kill both righteous and wicked alike from the Negev northward. A sword is ready to kill and kill again, polished to flash like lightning, terrible will be the slaughter. Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged.