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What?nopizza?butweallputourordersinIwaslooking forwardtoanicesliceican'tbelieveyouaintsendingoverapizzaiguessitsbacktopeanutbutterandjellythatsallihavehadforweekssurewaslookingforwardtomypizzayourjustabigtease.Madad21 said:Whoa?? I didnt promise you any pizza,!!!
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Thank you folks for caring!RANDOR said:
"Christians show their agape during times of 'trouble.'" Sinfully stole this from Madad21 I think?
Old Jack
Yes Jack, I stole the same thing, but I think the people I stole it from must have stole it from someone else cos it was embellished somewhat....
crisis aren't agents of God to change your life, they are agents of God for you to express the changes already made.
Yes, Randor....you are correct, anyone who cannot testify and witness to a change in their life as a result of meeting Jesus hasn't met Jesus.
And Madad, you giving away pizza?????......vegetarian for me ta.
crisis aren't agents of God to change your life, they are agents of God for you to express the changes already made.
Yes, Randor....you are correct, anyone who cannot testify and witness to a change in their life as a result of meeting Jesus hasn't met Jesus.
And Madad, you giving away pizza?????......vegetarian for me ta.
Then you have to pout your order in on the 'how do you like your pizza thread' you will find it in the "Unorthodox doctrine forum"brakelite said:
QUICK!!
Thank you for your response and caring!brakelite said:
I'm not disagreeing with you, however have the hospital ministry for the past decades, and there's one sad common denominator regarding crisis to extreme crisis.
Close to 10 out of 10 Christians that I visited in the hospitals for decades that underwent a crisis became a part of the 24/7 church, then as soon as 9 out of 10 got well, quickly became a part of the whole "1" hour on Sunday bunch with don't bother me during the week regarding the Cross?
Long ago I questioned a few regarding their quck change to the "1" hour group, and their honest response: "That's how we are Jack, soon as a crisis happens we turn to Jesus then when over, we forget about Him" - I thanked them for their honesty.
Old 24/7 Jack even more so today.
btw I'm unpopular with my inconvenient and uncomfortable "talking the talk" first and foremost getting God's Word in the truthful direction then "walk the walk" to include the testimony under this heading.
In keeping with the topic of the thread Jack, I wonder how the coming global crisis is going to play out. The way I see it is somewhat close to the following I believe.
Remember 9/11? For a month or two after that everyone and their cocker spaniel went to church and confessed faith in 'God'. And, to my personal horror, your president decides to get up into the pulpit and proclaim from there, as if he was preaching a 'godly Christian evangelical gospel message'..."he who is not with us is against us". I got real angry at that. But on another level was not surprised. In the coming crisis we will witness the same again. Churches will be packed. The churches will unite together, and even with the government, in standing against a common threat.
The problem is that they will all be united, not on the basis of Biblical or doctrinal truth...not on the basis of a desire to share the gospel with the world...not on the basis of sharing the love of Jesus with their neighbours...but purely and simply out of self preservation. Jesus said that the rulers will have no solutions, and everyone will be panicking. So they turn to religion. Not the religion taught in thew Bible, but the religion taught on TV and espoused by the popular press and media. It will be a mixture of New age...apostate Protestantism...and Roman Catholicism. The confusion of Babylon the Great. They will offer up prayers and make all manner of well meaning and pious pronouncements and a pretense of repentance while the crisis deepens, and when no answers come, will look around for some-one to blame who hasn't joined them in their sincere but hopeless charade. That some-one who they will target will be those who refuse to worship their global church/state union and image of the medieval papal beast, and who refuse to accept the 'mark' of the beast's authority. And my friend, this mark has nothing to do with fiscal convenience. It has everything to do with worship and loyalty to the true Creator God. The fiscal aspect...that is the buying and selling aspect...is merely an inducement to accept the mark. An inducement to worship according to the dictates of man. Other inducement will be fines, then jail, and finally the death sentence.
The coming crisis will reveal the true character of both the righteous and the wicked. It will not form character, but expose it. Thus will the true fruits be revealed of who belongs to Jesus , and who doesn't. The harvest will then be seen to be ripe, both wheat and tares are ripe for harvest, the angels will first come and bundle the tares to be burned,then the wheat to be gathered into God's barn. (See Rev.14)
Armageddon is the war that precedes this. A war that ensues between the false 'Christian' world, and the true. Remember, the entire world is caught up in this crisis. The entire world joins with the beast and the false prophet to worship the false counterfeit system....the nations of the world unite against God's people, spiritual Israel. Remember also what Jesus said about us at this time? We will be called to testify before Kings and before the rulers of this world. We will be called to account for our 'heresy' before the courts. It will be a repeat of the dark ages, only on a global scale.
Do any of you dear readers now begin to understand how a focus on the Middle East and upon literal Israel is just a red herring of the enemy of our souls and part of his deceptions? There is far more import to your being prepared for the coming crisis than simply observing the politics of the Middle east. You need to be personally prepared. You need to know what you believe, and why. Because my friends, you will be called to defend your beliefs before a world that will hate everything you claim to stands for. All the while they claiming to stand for the truth, and you being inspired of Satan.
"If they call the Master of the house Beelzebub, what will they do to His servants".
Remember 9/11? For a month or two after that everyone and their cocker spaniel went to church and confessed faith in 'God'. And, to my personal horror, your president decides to get up into the pulpit and proclaim from there, as if he was preaching a 'godly Christian evangelical gospel message'..."he who is not with us is against us". I got real angry at that. But on another level was not surprised. In the coming crisis we will witness the same again. Churches will be packed. The churches will unite together, and even with the government, in standing against a common threat.
The problem is that they will all be united, not on the basis of Biblical or doctrinal truth...not on the basis of a desire to share the gospel with the world...not on the basis of sharing the love of Jesus with their neighbours...but purely and simply out of self preservation. Jesus said that the rulers will have no solutions, and everyone will be panicking. So they turn to religion. Not the religion taught in thew Bible, but the religion taught on TV and espoused by the popular press and media. It will be a mixture of New age...apostate Protestantism...and Roman Catholicism. The confusion of Babylon the Great. They will offer up prayers and make all manner of well meaning and pious pronouncements and a pretense of repentance while the crisis deepens, and when no answers come, will look around for some-one to blame who hasn't joined them in their sincere but hopeless charade. That some-one who they will target will be those who refuse to worship their global church/state union and image of the medieval papal beast, and who refuse to accept the 'mark' of the beast's authority. And my friend, this mark has nothing to do with fiscal convenience. It has everything to do with worship and loyalty to the true Creator God. The fiscal aspect...that is the buying and selling aspect...is merely an inducement to accept the mark. An inducement to worship according to the dictates of man. Other inducement will be fines, then jail, and finally the death sentence.
The coming crisis will reveal the true character of both the righteous and the wicked. It will not form character, but expose it. Thus will the true fruits be revealed of who belongs to Jesus , and who doesn't. The harvest will then be seen to be ripe, both wheat and tares are ripe for harvest, the angels will first come and bundle the tares to be burned,then the wheat to be gathered into God's barn. (See Rev.14)
Armageddon is the war that precedes this. A war that ensues between the false 'Christian' world, and the true. Remember, the entire world is caught up in this crisis. The entire world joins with the beast and the false prophet to worship the false counterfeit system....the nations of the world unite against God's people, spiritual Israel. Remember also what Jesus said about us at this time? We will be called to testify before Kings and before the rulers of this world. We will be called to account for our 'heresy' before the courts. It will be a repeat of the dark ages, only on a global scale.
Do any of you dear readers now begin to understand how a focus on the Middle East and upon literal Israel is just a red herring of the enemy of our souls and part of his deceptions? There is far more import to your being prepared for the coming crisis than simply observing the politics of the Middle east. You need to be personally prepared. You need to know what you believe, and why. Because my friends, you will be called to defend your beliefs before a world that will hate everything you claim to stands for. All the while they claiming to stand for the truth, and you being inspired of Satan.
"If they call the Master of the house Beelzebub, what will they do to His servants".
Agree to agree to a lot of the former. The Secret Societies that control the money, control that nation behind the scenes including the U.S. of course.brakelite said:
Old Jack
Yes Jack, the secret societies are an interesting aspect. One must consider what I believe to be true, and that is the vast majority of politicians, bankers, corporate heads, as well as the foremost in the entertainment industries, are members of secret societies. Be it Illuminati or its many offshoots, they will all be a part of the mix. It is not the secret societies however that overly concern me. A curious lot for sure, but not as dangerous as the society that works in the open, but with a hidden agenda. That society everyone trusts...she puts on a loving and personable exterior, in appearance Christian, benign, philanthropic, concerned for the poor and downtrodden, speaks eloquently of the ills of society particularly the sins and greed of the wealthy https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/pope-tells-super-rich-bankers-132312676.html . I don't mean the RCC as a whole, but one particular society within the church which I perceive as one of, if not the most dangerous organizations on the planet. The Jesuits.
Thank for your response and caring exceptionally!brakelite said:
This time I have to fully agree to agree which is highly unusual for me as you're aware already of.
However I have to add: "the more one is closer to the truth of the Word where it's more difficult to detect errors especially in the essentials, the more damnable the lie is, ie, with my own modern Lutheran brothers and sisters for openers." + Jesuits.
Old non-modern Jack,
btw only my opinion
I'll take my previous post a little further, and venture to say that while I agree with you Jack that the secret societies appear to control the nations, the Jesuits infiltrated them a long time ago, along with all the major Protestant denomination organisations, as well as their seminaries, Bible Colleges, universities etc, and that includes I regret to say my own church's institutions, although there are many within my church intent on weeding them out and exposing them. This has happened on several occasions. It is absolutely no coincidence that the current pope, at such a time when the Vatican is promoting the idea that the pope should be the leader of the coming NWO, is the first Jesuit to hold that position in history.shturt678 said:
Many Protestants aren't aware that there is barely one nation on the planet that hasn't, at one time or another, banned the Jesuits from their lands. Even in your own nation the discussions between Jefferson, Madison and others were intense as to whether that should be the case in the newly formed US. There are several very good reasons why they were banned. And if Jefferson et al were given an insight into their immediate future they would surely have banned them from your shores also. (The assasinations of 5 presidents and the Vietnam war for starters.) Although I venture that modern governments would have reversed that situation.
Brake:
This has happened on several occasions. It is absolutely no coincidence that the current pope, at such a time when the Vatican is promoting the idea that the pope should be the leader of the coming NWO, is the first Jesuit to hold that position in history.
That is interesting; I was not aware of that.
That may add impetus to the "Ecumenical" effort.
Floyd.
This has happened on several occasions. It is absolutely no coincidence that the current pope, at such a time when the Vatican is promoting the idea that the pope should be the leader of the coming NWO, is the first Jesuit to hold that position in history.
That is interesting; I was not aware of that.
That may add impetus to the "Ecumenical" effort.
Floyd.
That was interesting when they addressed the Lord: "have you come to torment us before the time" !RANDOR said:
Floyd.
Yep..............the end times are here......God is at the door................His word has been so watered down......by teachers, preists, preachers while satan sits back and rejoices.
satan loves it when Christians battle with Christians.....I'm a Christian....no you're not....I'm a Christian.
This should not be...but why is it?
A True Christian should rejoice at even meeting another Christain...........but why is there no rejoicing.......
Because there is so many teachings about one thing (God's Word)
I myself would get a little ticked at this.......I would talk to Jesus personally and have Him tell me one on one......get it from the source.
I did this.............................................have you?
His love for you.................speaks volumes.............saves a lot of time studying,
Christian vs Christian................who would have ever thought it would have come down to this.
satan loves it when Christians battle with Christians.....I'm a Christian....no you're not....I'm a Christian.
This should not be...but why is it?
A True Christian should rejoice at even meeting another Christain...........but why is there no rejoicing.......
Because there is so many teachings about one thing (God's Word)
I myself would get a little ticked at this.......I would talk to Jesus personally and have Him tell me one on one......get it from the source.
I did this.............................................have you?
His love for you.................speaks volumes.............saves a lot of time studying,
Christian vs Christian................who would have ever thought it would have come down to this.
I'm trying to reconcile this overtly ecumenical tone with your two threads that claimed that real Christians pay tithes and speak in tongues.RANDOR said:
But I digress. I try to be careful when using the "you're not a Christian" card which is a sword that can cut both ways when wielded clumsily. In another thread questioning whether or not Jesus was a Jew, I didn't hesitate to call out the OP as not being a Christian because I'm well versed in the Christian Identity cult that rages hot in its hatred of Jews to the point they deny that Jesus was even Jewish. They're no more Christian than the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas that protested soldier's funerals holding signs with ugly, hateful slogans. The mark of a non Christian who has never known the love of God is their hatred, so even when they claim to be Christian, I unabashedly annunciate that they are not. Why such boldness?
"Beloved, let us love one another. For love is of God and anyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God for God is love." 1John 4:7,8
That's why.
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