Moriah's Song
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And your verse to prove that erroneous statement is what???Mary was spared from original sin by God, not herself.
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And your verse to prove that erroneous statement is what???Mary was spared from original sin by God, not herself.
Your post sounds like you are sharing the Jehovah's Witnesses' views/beliefs, but I've not heard about angels producing Jesus before. That doesn't sound at all Biblical! The Bible tells that Jesus was/is God's only begotten son, e.g. 1 John 4:9 -
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
The woman referred to in Genesis 3:15 is Eve. It's not a symbolic woman, and it definitely is not referring to God's loyal angels! The next verse also refers to "the woman":The symbolic "woman" or body of Jehovah's loyal angels at Genesis 3:15 produced it's first Kingdom heir in Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:6 (WEB):An additional 144,000 Kingdom heirs would also be selected to serve as "kings and priests" during Jesus Millennial reign (Rev 1:6, KJV),
And your verse to prove that erroneous statement is what???
And your verse to prove that erroneous statement is what???
1- Can you explain this to me please?Luke 1:47 – Of course God is Mary’s Savior! She was freed from original sin in the womb (unlike us who are freed from sin outside of the womb), but needed a Savior as much as the rest of humanity.
1- Can you explain this to me please?
2- What verse in scripture says that Mary was freed from original sin in the womb?
3- In her mother's womb before Mary was born?
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). “For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:21).why does it need to be in scripture?
You did not explain how those verses explain how and when and how Mary became perpetually sinless or why she needed to be sinless by using scripture; not just the verses for me to look up for you!gen 3:15 prophecy of the savior
Enmity total war none of satans wicked works are found in Her immaculate purity
lk 1:28 full of grace
rev 12:1 clothed with the sun
Immaculate purity
These are the only two verses in the RSV that use the term "full of grace".lk 1:28 full of grace
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). “For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:21).
In Revelation 22:18-19, God gives us a warning, "For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
The Roman Catholic church "adds to scripture" through their "traditions" that contradict many, many verses in the Bible. Therefore, I challenge you to take time to study the Word of God. The Lord will show you wonderful things that will change your life.
These are the only two verses in the RSV that use the term "full of grace".
Luke 1:28
Wycliffe Bible
28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
Nor does "blessed art thou among women". The Cambridge Bible Notes says of this phrase, "These words are of dubious authenticity, being omitted by B and various versions. They may have been added from Luke 1:42".You might be interested that when you hover over the Bible verse in your post "full of grace" doesn't appear. ;^)
Idol worship of Mary is blasphemy!Gen 3:15
Lk 1:28
Rev 12:1
A good tree!
Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!
Idol worship of Mary is blasphemy!
Exo 20:4..."You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Deu 4:15-16.."Therefore take good heed to yourselves. Since you saw no form on the day that the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, (this is repeated in Deu 5:8)
(The woman is the church)
Gen 3:15... I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."(over 80 translations use this term- the Catholic bibles do not)
Lk 1:28... And he came to her and said, "Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!"
Rev 12:1...And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars;
A- The woman/the bride represents the Christian Church universal - not the RCC.
B- The twelve stars represent the 12 OT tribal elders as well as the 12 NT apostles. (12x12,000 = 144,000) A symbolic number of the fullness of Christian church.
A good tree! You should have quoted all three verses that reveal that the RCC bears the bad fruit because of its multitude of "traditions" that cannot be supported by scripture.
Mat 7:17...So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
Mat 7:18...A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
Mat 7:19...Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
It is those basket full of "traditions" of the RCC that cannot be TRUTHFULLY supported with scripture that have been rotting over the centuries and will only be thrown into the fire when the Lord comes at the end of this age.
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theefaith said: The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation!
Matthew 7:18...A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
theefaith said: Jesus is our salvation!
Matt 1:21..."she will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins."
theefaaith said: This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 2:30..."...for mine eyes have seen thy salvation...
(MS added v.33 And his father and his mother marveled at what was said about him; )
theefaith said: Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:30..."And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God."
(MS note: this does not indicate our salvation was found due to Mary!)
theefaith said: [Mary]consented to our salvation!
Lk 1:38 - And Mary said, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word."
(MS note: Mary was never asked by the angel to give consent to give birth to Jesus! Mary considered herself to be the servant/handmaid of the Lord only.
I agree but that doesn't mean that we should not continue to use scripture as Jesus did when He was tempted with scripture by Satan....However, you will never convince Catholics about anything using the Bible as proof, as their entire faith is based on many other things that are extraBiblical.
I agree but that doesn't mean that we should not continue to use scripture as Jesus did when He was tempted with scripture by Satan....
Mat 4:1-2...Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and afterward he was hungry.
3- And the tempter came and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread."
4- But he answered, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"5-6 Then the devil took him to the holy city, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down; for it is written, 'He will give his angels charge of you,' and 'On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'"
7- Jesus said to him, "Again it is written, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"8-9...Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; and he said to him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me."
10Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! for it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.'"11Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and ministered to him.
Satan knows scripture as well. He used it in the Garden with Eve as the weaker sex but Christ knew how to use scripture against him as His first temptation account in Matthew --- and that is how the RCC and many of the cults use scripture but in a distorted manner.