Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

[amigo de christo]

The GLORIOUS KING JESUS is COMING . Let all praise and thank the LORD .
Heed them not when they say HE , and MOSES and the prophet muhammed are all dancing under the temple in unity
for world peace . CAUSE THAT IS A LIE . Number one MOSES , NOR CHRIST would be dancing with a false religion PEROID .
Yeah , they made this claim a few years back . WHEN JESUS COMETH it shall be as the strike of lightning
VERY FAST and if you aint caught up with him , you better wail is all i can say . POINT TO JESUS while there still be time to do so .

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Matthew 24: 4-14.
Starting @ v.4. My understanding of Matthew 24 here is leading up to the tribulation of the saints.
We have been having wars, nations are against nations, persecution against believers has been happening as well. Ppl are betraying their loved ones and friends bc today love is all about oneself. Yet the gospel shall continue being preached and is, in all the world via internet. The end is soon!

15 - 20
The anti-christ is revealed for whom he is ,an imposter. Trouble for believers really gets fired up after this. We are told to not be concerned with material things, clothes, livestock, or finances.
Pregancy will be a hinderance as well as small children. Mothers in WW2 murdered their own children to save them from the horrors to be faced.

21-22
Then shall the devil,anti-christ and beast come into total sight, ENRAGED TO MADNESS bc ppl stood for Jesus, refusing the mark and worshipping satan.
This BAD has never ever been regardless how bad tribulations HAVE BEEN BEFORE!
Jesus said those days would be shortened for there would be none that would be rescued as saved.
V 13, tells us this
But he that shall ENDURE TO THE END,the same shall be saved.

29 IMO..........
Believers will go through the tribulation by the beast and anti-christ. Persecution will be worse than in the first century of Christ. They were beheaded and staked,fed to wild animals, torn asunder by horses, hung on crosses, set on fire, any kind of toture was used to make them renounce the Messiah as their King.

29-31 this in my opinion is the end of tribulations of the saints for now comes the wrath of God against unrighteousness, unbelief, evil and wicked mankind. All that refused salvation,and that stood with the AC and the beast............its time for a take- down by the King of Kings.

All the tribes OF THE EARTH, LIVING NATIONS ,KINDREDS, AND
PPLS, will mourn for their deception and their refusal of Christ. They will see Jesus COMING with power & great glory.
His angels will sound the trumpet and we will be gathered HOME-WARD BOUND.

The wrath of God was revealed to Jesus' beloved disciple John in Revelations, written on the Isle of Patmos after his exile.

 

[Davy]

Sorry brethren, but all this chaos and desolations for the coming "great tribulation" is NOT what is actually written in God's Word about that future time. Instead what is written about is, that it will be a time of world peace and prosperity, not all out war, chaos, and madness.

Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
KJV

Not many preachers finish what Jesus said above about the end. By that, Jesus showed that as long as we hear of wars and rumors of wars, the end is not yet. What "end"? The actual great tribulation time He later warns of. What's the opposite of a time of wars and rumors of wars? Easy. It's a time of peace. That... is kind of time the "end" is going to be about, a time of world peace.

Dan 8:23-25
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
KJV

That is about the coming pseudo-Christ that comes first, working the great signs and wonders Lord Jesus forewarned us about in His Olivet discourse. Notice that it is using peace and craft prosperity in his hand to deceive many for the end. The Revelation 13:4-8 Scripture reveals all the world will worship the "dragon", except Christ's elect (because we won't bow in worship to him).

Thus the "great tribulation" time is going to be a time of WORLD PEACE AND SAFETY, for the DECEIVED. And that will be the MAJORITY OF PEOPLES ON THE EARTH.

In 1 Thessalonians 5, we find Apostle Paul warning us about that "Peace and safety" time also. He showed that when 'they' say, "Peace and safety", then... shall "sudden destruction" come upon 'them'. Paul was pointing to the destruction of the 7th Vial on the final day of this world when Jesus comes, on the "day of the Lord". So just prior to that final day of this world, the majority of the world will be saying, "Peace and safety" because of the pseudo-Christ having offered to pay off all their debts and woes, and establish world peace upon the earth.

But... that false messiah will be looking for those of us faithful in Christ's Church, to try and destroy us, because we already know that pseudo-Christ that comes first will be an imposter.

Thus the great tribulation will have effect 2 ways:
1. as a time of great deception upon the deceived who will think God has actually returned, and takes care of all their problems, and that Christ's Kingdom has final come.
2. as a time of persecution upon Christ's saints that only listen to Him.

 

[Davy]

Where then, does all the chaos, desolations, all out nuclear war, etc., come from about the end?

Mostly from the Pre-tribulational Rapture theory crowd. Their spokesmen like the authors Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye with his Left-Behind series, have instilled fabrications about the end of this world into the deceived minds of many brethren. The Pre-trib Rapture doctors use 'fear' as a scare tactic to make you want to believe the false pre-trib rapture theory.

The idea of chaos, war, famines, pestilences, and earthquakes, is for the "beginning of sorrows" timing that Lord Jesus taught in Matthew 24. But that is not the "end" yet when those things happen, meaning not the "great tribulation" time. Those are just markers for the coming main deception during the tribulation, what Apostle Paul called the "strong delusion" in 2 Thessalonians 2 regarding the coming false-Messiah to Jerusalem to play God with the power to do miracles and deceive the whole world.

If the coming pseudo-Christ goes around doing random killings and chaos like the Pre-tribbers teach, then how is that false one going to deceive the world into believing he is Christ having returned? Instead, that false one is going to offer to pay off all your debt, and give you anything you want, as long as you bow in worship to him and take his mark. He is going to make the majority of the world happy!

That will make it easier to find those of us who are not deceived. And that is what the true believer and follower of Christ Jesus needs to be preparing for. When Jesus said even those of our own household will become our enemies, this is what He was pointing to, the great tribulation time when the majority of the world will bow in worship to the coming pseudo-Christ who comes first.