Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near

[Ronald Nolette]

Every post is a person's opinion. Unless it is a verse from Scripture, and that still can be their opinion.

If you can change what God's Word states, you can change my opinion.

My position is that the Day of the Lord is the full 1,000 years, not a 24 hour period.

What do you call the 1,000 years the Lord Jesus Christ is ruling on the earth? How are you going to change God's Word, grammatically to prove your point?

The 1,000 year reign is called the millenial or 1,000 year kingdom.

Teh Day of the Lord is the 7 year period we call teh tribulation . It is also known by about 24 other names in Scripture.

You need to go deeper than English and understand that while day (hemera in Greek and yom in Hebrew) dopes primarily mean a 24 hour period, it also can mean a time frame and context defines it as well as harmony with the rest of the Scriptures without reinterpretation.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You are expecting the same result? Why would you think the result would be the same? One group of verses is telling you what is happening when John sees the trumpets blown and other verses are telling you what happens when John sees the vials poured out. There would be no point in repeating the same information again. The point that is made is that the trumpets and vials occur in the same timeframe. This is certainly not the only proof. To me this just confirms what the others verse say.

The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet. Jesus has returned, Armageddon is over. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Judgement happens and the story is over. What you see in the vials occurs in the same timeframe as the trumpets.

If by timeframe you mean they occur over X period of time and that each trumpet is not followed by its numerical identical vial then I agree.

But if you mean that teh trumpets and vials occur simultaneously and not concurrently in their own orders ( the 7 trumpets followed by the 7 vials, then Scripture and I disagree with you.

 

[Timtofly]

The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet. Jesus has returned, Armageddon is over. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Judgement happens and the story is over. What you see in the vials occurs in the same timeframe as the trumpets.

Do you not understand that the 7th Trumpet is not a single blast over in a few seconds?

"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound."

The 7th angel covers multiple days. Not a sound over in an instant. A sound that continues for days.

There is a 42 month period between when the 7th Trumpet starts and when it ends.

The vials are poured out after the 42 months in the 3.5 days the two witnesses lay dead.

So when the 2 witnesses are dead, we still hear the voice of the 7th Angel the same as in the 3.5 days before the 42 months happen.

The vials are not in the 42 months. They are after the 42 months.

"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

1260 days is 42 months.

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves."

3.5 days happen after the 42 months of Revelation 13.

"And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

This is the same earthquake mentioned here, at the end of the 7 vials.

"And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found."

This is where all the rest of humanity gather at Armageddon.

After the 42 months. After the 3.5 days the vials are poured out.

Armageddon is a one hour battle against the Lamb of God.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."

They fight with Satan for one hour at Armageddon.

Then the 7th Trumpet stops sounding.

The wrath of God is not over right before the 7th Trumpet starts to sound. The judgment is finished and then the 7th Trumpet stops sounding.

It is in the midst of the week of the 7th Trumpet, that Satan is given 42 months. Not in the middle of seven years. It is in the middle of 7 days. There are 3.5 days prior to these 42 months, and 3.5 days after these 42 months.

The 7th Trumpet is the confirmation of the Atonement Covenant. There is no 7 year treaty nor a 7 day treaty. The 7th Trumpet is the confirmation that now all the kingdoms of earth now belong to Christ.

If Satan is allowed 42 months, that confirmation is put on hold until after those 42 months. That is why the Lamb returns at Armageddon. Jesus as King is taking back control of earth after Satan's 42 months. Satan cannot kill the 2 witnesses until after the 42 months are over. That is when God's wrath is poured out in the 7 vials. God's wrath is not poured out during the 42 months, nor poured out before the 42 months even start. The 2 witnesses are the instruments of God's judgment during the 42 months.

"And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."

These vials are given after the 42 months, because all those gathered during the 42 months were already present and accounted for. None of them were on earth during the 7 vials. The 2 witnesses were not effected. They were already dead.

We know that the third woe is contained in the 7th Trumpet. We should know the third woe is Satan's 42 months. That means the third woe will last for 42 months, not that 42 months is a recommendation. This time will not be shortened. It is also not the GT.

These 42 months is when God removes the covenant from the earth. It is when the Abomination of desolation is allowed to be normality. There will be no Holy Spirit, nor morality as we currently know it. It will really be the reign of sin and death. God will not need to send judgment at this time, as the judgment is allowing the third woe to happen. Satan is allowed to show the inhabitants what he really thinks of God's beautiful and perfect creation. You think it was bad before the Flood of Noah. The earth is not restored at the 6th Seal. It will be restored after Armageddon.

When people try to change the order of Revelation around, or say it is the same event, they cannot put Satan's 42 months prior to the 6th Seal. That cannot work and contradicts the point about the 7th Trumpet and the 3rd woe.

 

[Timtofly]

Daniel ch7 , Matthew ch24 , 2 Thess ch2 , 1 John ch2 and Revelation chapters 12, 13 , 14 all say/agree that the Saints are on earth during the rise of the Antichrist.

Daniel 7:20-22
The LORD Jesus Christ does not Return/Second Coming until AFTER the Antichrist is revealed and in power.
and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.
“I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came

Matthew ch24
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

2 Thess ch2
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

Revelation 12:11
They have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony.
And they did not love their lives
so as to shy away from death.

Revelation 13:7
Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.

Revelation 14:11-13
there is no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
Here is a call for the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
And I heard a voice from heaven telling me to write, “Blessed are the dead—those who die in the Lord from this moment on.”

There have been many antichrist since the day of Pentecost. The Second Coming is still future. Which antichrist are you currently referring to at work today?

Many redeemed have had to suffer under these antichrist. The Second Coming has not happened yet.

 

[Timtofly]

The trumpets are in the seals. The trumpets are the 7th seal. They are the wrath of God. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal when Jesus comes. Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins.



I am consistent. Trumpets happen in the 7th seal. Jesus comes at the 6th seal for the second harvest. Wrath then begins. At the end of wrath, Jesus comes again and sets up His kingdom.


This happens at the end of the trumpets. This is not the same as the 6th seal. The 6th seal is a harvest prior to the Marriage Supper. Jacob had two brides.

What you are posting occurs at the 7th trumpet.

Rev 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.


I know. I'm not sure what I said that made you think that I believed that.



Rev 13 happens in the seals. The wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet. Then we get another view of the seals in Rev 13 and 214

No. You have drawn a wrong conclusion.

Bingo

Rev 13 is not the third woe. Wrong conclusion. It's all over at the 7th trumpet. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of your Lord. That means Armageddon is over. Jesus has set up His kingdom on earth. It is the time of judgement. Rev 13 gives you another view of the seals.

Agreed

Agreed

Satan come to earth at the 6th seal. He does not come at the 7th trumpet.

The names of every human are in the Lamb's book of life. That is the book with the 7 Seals. Events are not "in the Seals". Events happen when a Seal is opened.

The Trumpets are not in the Seals. The Lamb's book of life is in the Seals. Each time a Seal is removed there is an event. The last Seal event is silence in heaven.

After the silence was over the Trumpets were given to the 7 angels. That was not a Seal event. That was an event after the silence was over.

 

[Timtofly]

The 1,000 year reign is called the millenial or 1,000 year kingdom.

Teh Day of the Lord is the 7 year period we call teh tribulation . It is also known by about 24 other names in Scripture.

You need to go deeper than English and understand that while day (hemera in Greek and yom in Hebrew) dopes primarily mean a 24 hour period, it also can mean a time frame and context defines it as well as harmony with the rest of the Scriptures without reinterpretation.

All mentions of the Day of the Lord are talking about 1,000 year time periods. That was Peter's point.

 

[The Light]

If by timeframe you mean they occur over X period of time and that each trumpet is not followed by its numerical identical vial then I agree.

But if you mean that teh trumpets and vials occur simultaneously and not concurrently in their own orders ( the 7 trumpets followed by the 7 vials, then Scripture and I disagree with you.

I guess we will have to disagree as when the 7th trumpet sounds the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. WRATH IS OVER.

 

[The Light]

Do you not understand that the 7th Trumpet is not a single blast over in a few seconds?

"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound."

I understand exactly what the Word says. When the 7th angel begins to sound the mystery of God should be finished.

Revelation 10
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

When the 7th angel sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. That mean Armageddon is over and Christ has returned and set up His kingdom.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

WRATH IS OVER.

The 7th angel covers multiple days. Not a sound over in an instant. A sound that continues for days.

There is a 42 month period between when the 7th Trumpet starts and when it ends.

The vials are poured out after the 42 months in the 3.5 days the two witnesses lay dead.

This is not correct and not even close. Not sure where you came up with this but it does not agree with scripture.

So when the 2 witnesses are dead, we still hear the voice of the 7th Angel the same as in the 3.5 days before the 42 months happen.

The vials are not in the 42 months. They are after the 42 months.

"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

1260 days is 42 months.

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves."

3.5 days happen after the 42 months of Revelation 13.

"And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

This is the same earthquake mentioned here, at the end of the 7 vials.

"And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found."

This is where all the rest of humanity gather at Armageddon.

After the 42 months. After the 3.5 days the vials are poured out.

Armageddon is a one hour battle against the Lamb of God.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."

All this is incorrect.

The wrath of God is not over right before the 7th Trumpet starts to sound. The judgment is finished and then the 7th Trumpet stops sounding.

It is in the midst of the week of the 7th Trumpet, that Satan is given 42 months. Not in the middle of seven years. It is in the middle of 7 days. There are 3.5 days prior to these 42 months, and 3.5 days after these 42 months.

The 7th Trumpet is the confirmation of the Atonement Covenant. There is no 7 year treaty nor a 7 day treaty. The 7th Trumpet is the confirmation that now all the kingdoms of earth now belong to Christ.

If Satan is allowed 42 months, that confirmation is put on hold until after those 42 months. That is why the Lamb returns at Armageddon. Jesus as King is taking back control of earth after Satan's 42 months. Satan cannot kill the 2 witnesses until after the 42 months are over. That is when God's wrath is poured out in the 7 vials. God's wrath is not poured out during the 42 months, nor poured out before the 42 months even start. The 2 witnesses are the instruments of God's judgment during the 42 months.

"And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."

These vials are given after the 42 months, because all those gathered during the 42 months were already present and accounted for. None of them were on earth during the 7 vials. The 2 witnesses were not effected. They were already dead.

We know that the third woe is contained in the 7th Trumpet. We should know the third woe is Satan's 42 months. That means the third woe will last for 42 months, not that 42 months is a recommendation. This time will not be shortened. It is also not the GT.

These 42 months is when God removes the covenant from the earth. It is when the Abomination of desolation is allowed to be normality. There will be no Holy Spirit, nor morality as we currently know it. It will really be the reign of sin and death. God will not need to send judgment at this time, as the judgment is allowing the third woe to happen. Satan is allowed to show the inhabitants what he really thinks of God's beautiful and perfect creation. You think it was bad before the Flood of Noah. The earth is not restored at the 6th Seal. It will be restored after Armageddon.

I have no idea how you would conclude this. The wrath of God lasts one year. That includes both the trumpets and vials which happen in the same timeframe.

One year means 360 days of wrath, which puts a lot of that 42 months in the seals.

When people try to change the order of Revelation around, or say it is the same event, they cannot put Satan's 42 months prior to the 6th Seal. That cannot work and contradicts the point about the 7th Trumpet and the 3rd woe.

I am changing nothing around. Revelation from Chapter 4 thru Chapter 11 reads straight thru (except for the sealing of the 144,000 in Chapter 7 which occurs earlier in the seals, which we can prove). Wrath is over and done in Chapter 11. Armageddon has happened and Jesus has set up His kingdom on earth.

Then we are back in the seals in Chapter 13. We see the 144,000 harvested from the earth as 1st fruits. We see the great tribulation (5th seal) Then we see the coming of Jesus for the harvest (6th seal). Then we get another view of the wrath of God in the vials. We see Armageddon and Jesus returns. So Revelation 13 thru Revelation 16 give you more information about the seals and Gods wrath that we see in Revelation 6 thru 11.

Nothing is being rearranged. We need to UNDERSTAND what is written.

Again. The wrath of God is one year. Most of those 42 months occur before the 6th seal. AND THE 6TH SEAL IS NOT THE 7TH TRUMPET LIKE SOME THINK. Jesu comes at the 6th seal for the second harvest. The tribulation is over and wrath begins.

 

[The Light]

The names of every human are in the Lamb's book of life. That is the book with the 7 Seals.

Do you have scripture to prove this or is it just a guess?

Events are not "in the Seals". Events happen when a Seal is opened.

ok.

The Trumpets are not in the Seals.

The trumpets are the events that happen when the 7th seal is opened.

The Lamb's book of life is in the Seals.

Scriptural support?

Each time a Seal is removed there is an event. The last Seal event is silence in heaven.

After the silence was over the Trumpets were given to the 7 angels. That was not a Seal event. That was an event after the silence was over.

No. The last seal event is when the 7th seal is opened the trumpets are given to the angels after a short silence.

 

[David in NJ]

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

 

[The Light]

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

Yes. This happens at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven prior to the wrath of God. The very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. We see that here. It is the Lord sending His angels for the fruit harvest.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

We see the same harvest here.

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

But don't forget about the rapture of the Church that happens at the trump of God or voice of God. It will be like the days of Noah where Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. The Lord Himself comes.

1 Thes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. This happens at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven prior to the wrath of God. The very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. We see that here. It is the Lord sending His angels for the fruit harvest.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

We see the same harvest here.

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

But don't forget about the rapture of the Church that happens at the trump of God or voice of God. It will be like the days of Noah where Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. The Lord Himself comes.

1 Thes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

BEFORE you get to Rev 14:14 there is Rev 14:9-13

And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand, he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever. Day and night there is no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

Here is a call for the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

And I heard a voice from heaven telling me to write,
“Blessed are the dead—those who die in the Lord from this moment on.”

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. This happens at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven prior to the wrath of God. The very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. We see that here. It is the Lord sending His angels for the fruit harvest.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

We see the same harvest here.

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

But don't forget about the rapture of the Church that happens at the trump of God or voice of God. It will be like the days of Noah where Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. The Lord Himself comes.

1 Thes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

my bad - i forgot to say = Good Morning 'Light' and all who know and love the Lord Jesus Christ

 

[dev553344]

Hosea 6
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Coincidence #1
One day is as a thousand years with the Lord and a thousand years is as a day. If Jesus died in AD 30 and we added two thousand years to that, he could come in the year 2030. The pretribulation rapture will happen at least 7 years before the second advent. Could Jesus come in the year 2023? Is the day and the hour of His coming for His bride at hand?

I recently had a revelation that the Lord will return soon. So I don't know, but I think it might be true.

 

[David in NJ]

I recently had a revelation that the Lord will return soon. So I don't know, but I think it might be true.

Shortly after i was baptized in the Holy Spirit i perceived within my spirit that i would, possibly, be witnessing the LORD's Return.

 

[dev553344]

Shortly after i was baptized in the Holy Spirit i perceived within my spirit that i would, possibly, be witnessing the LORD's Return.

I've also sensed that for myself. That the Lord will return within my lifetime.

 

[Truth7t7]

Daniel 12
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29 is a parallel teaching of Daniel 12:2, you use the word "Many" as if it cancels the word "All" in John 5:28-29 below "Wrong"

Daniel & John below, same event in the future resurrection of all, (Many/All) same event, God's words aren't contradictory as you suggest

Daniel 12:2KJV
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

[David in NJ]

John 5:28-29 is a parallel teaching of Daniel 12:2, you use the word "Many" as if cancels the word "All" in John 5:28-29 below "Wrong"

Daniel & John below, same event in the future resurrection of all, (Many/All) same event, God's words aren't contradictory as you suggest

Daniel 12:2KJV
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

AMEN

 

[Truth7t7]

Shortly after i was baptized in the Holy Spirit i perceived within my spirit that i would, possibly, be witnessing the LORD's Return.

When a human man (The Man Of Sin/The Beast) proclaims to be Messiah God returned in Jerusalem, as a human man (The False Prophet) calls fire down from heaven in his sight, as the world takes a mark and image worship, the tribulation starts?

The second coming isn't far behind, scripture tells the Church on earth will see the "Season"

 

[Timtofly]

I guess we will have to disagree as when the 7th trumpet sounds the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. WRATH IS OVER.

And God's wrath is against the wicked and ungodly, so evidently if the wrath was over, there were no humans left in those kingdoms as all would be dead. Do you think all of humanity is dead at that point?

If not, you are not consistent. God's wrath is not over until all the wicked are physically dead. Like many pre-mill you cannot say God's wrath is over, if the wicked live on into the Millennium. God's wrath would still exist in the Millennium along with the wicked.