Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near

[The Light]

You are going by old info.

Luk_12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

That was spoken BEFORE THE CROSS. EVen Christ had no idea when he would return at that timeframe but he would know more later.

Don't you think info AFTER THE CROSS might be newer info?

Yes sir. I do think after the cross we have newer information. But you are in the wrong spot. Here is the new information.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

I know when the 7000 die in that EQ, that Christ is coming soon, "cometh quickly" as it says.

So you are going to look for an earthquake where 7 thousand are killed.

In the meantime, Christ has come for the dead in Christ, the barley harvest. Christ has returned for the Church, the wheat harvest. Christ has returned for the 144,000 first fruits.
Revelation 14
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

And Christ has returned for the fruit harvest.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

You seem to be missing quite a few comings of Christ before He returns to set up His kingdom.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes sir. I do think after the cross we have newer information. But you are in the wrong spot. Here is the new information.

Revelation 3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


So you are going to look for an earthquake where 7 thousand are killed.

In the meantime, Christ has come for the dead in Christ, the barley harvest. Christ has returned for the Church, the wheat harvest. Christ has returned for the 144,000 first fruits.
Revelation 14
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

And Christ has returned for the fruit harvest.
Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

You seem to be missing quite a few comings of Christ before He returns to set up His kingdom.

Interjecting into Revelation what it does not say is not advised = see Revelation 22:18-19

Please post the Prophecy(s) and/or Declaration by Jesus and/or Apostles of "three rapture harvests"

 

[ScottA]

Coincidence #2
From the time of Adam to the birth of Abraham would be the year 1948 AM. AM stands for Anno Mundi, which is Latin for "in the year of the world". So counting from the beginning to the birth of Abram is 1948 years.

Coincidentally, Counting from the calendar time AD, and counting 1948 years to the year 1948 AD would be the year Israel is born.

75 years after the birth of Abraham, He left for a new land. 75 Years from the birth of Israel does the Church leave or is it just another coincidence

Does the day and hour approach?

Nonetheless, each of these were only small enactments, which only point to that which is greater. In other words, all the world is smaller than the greater kingdom of heaven and God.

As such, look rather for a small enactment in the world fulfilling all that is written, but do not be deceived by thinking that these things are the main event.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Peter had a formal grammar education? Do you have proof of this?

Peter had far better knowledge of Greek than many experts today. He was involved in it. And I was referring to todays followers. but that is just a dodge on your part

 

[The Light]

Interjecting into Revelation what it does not say is not advised = see Revelation 22:18-19

LOL. All I did was post a scripture.

Please post the Prophecy(s) and/or Declaration by Jesus and/or Apostles of "three rapture harvests"

1 Thes 4
1 Cor 15

 

[David in NJ]

LOL. All I did was post a scripture.

1 Thes 4
1 Cor 15

i was not referring to the scripture but to implying upon the scripture what it does not say


1 Thess 4 is His Coming = Last Trump = 1 Cor ch15 = Last Trump = Revelation 10:1-7 Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3

 

[ewq1938]

So you are going to look for an earthquake where 7 thousand are killed.

Yes. It means Christ will be returning very soon, that day.

 

[The Light]

i was not referring to the scripture but to implying upon the scripture what it does not say


1 Thess 4 is His Coming = Last Trump = 1 Cor ch15 = Last Trump = Revelation 10:1-7 = Daniel 12:1-3

You seem to be confused.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

 

[The Light]

Yes. It means Christ will be returning very soon, that day.

Why would you wait until the end of wrath to look for him? Don't you think it would be wise to look for Him before the seals are opened?

 

[David in NJ]

You seem to be confused.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

1 Thess 4 is not Before the seals are opened = "do not add to scripture what it does not say" = Proverbs 30:5-6

The 6th Seal reveals His Second Coming = 1 Thess 1:10

Now watch as we accurately handle the word of Truth.

1 Cor 15:51-53
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last Trumpet
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound his trumpet(last), the mystery of God will be fulfilled,
just as He proclaimed to His servants the prophets.” = Daniel 12:1-3

“At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up.
There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time.
But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.

But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end = Matt 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

 

[ewq1938]

Why would you wait until the end of wrath to look for him? Don't you think it would be wise to look for Him before the seals are opened?

Christ returns at the last trump, not any of the seals. Only a false christ will be showing up sooner. Stop looking for him.

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 

[David in NJ]

You seem to be confused.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

1 Thess 4:13-18 is the Gathering from one end of Heaven to the other

Follow the Clear Instruction from 1 Thessalonians

1:10 - and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath.

2:19 - Who is our hope, our joy, our crown of boasting, if it is not you yourselves in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?

3:13 - that He may establish your hearts in blamelessness and holiness before our God and Father
at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all His saints.

4:13-18
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, with the trumpet of God,
and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
After that,
we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.


SEE Post 290

 

[The Light]

Christ returns at the last trump, not any of the seals. Only a false christ will be showing up sooner. Stop looking for him.

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Don't you find it odd that when Paul wrote about the "last trump" John was years away from getting His revelation? Don't you find it odd that that the trump of God would be blown by an angel?

 

[The Light]

1 Thess 4:13-18 is the Gathering from one end of Heaven to the other

Follow the Clear Instruction from 1 Thessalonians

1:10 - and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath.

2:19 - Who is our hope, our joy, our crown of boasting, if it is not you yourselves in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming?

3:13 - that He may establish your hearts in blamelessness and holiness before our God and Father
at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all His saints.

4:13-18
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, with the trumpet of God,
and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
After that,
we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.


SEE Post 290

I already played the trump card.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

 

[ewq1938]

Don't you find it odd that when Paul wrote about the "last trump" John was years away from getting His revelation?

Obviously there is nothing odd about God showing prophecy to prophets. Did you know the OT prophesied about Jesus?? Is that odd to you?

Don't you find it odd that that the trump of God would be blown by an angel?

No. Angels are the ones who blow the trumps.

 

[The Light]

Obviously there is nothing odd about God showing prophecy to prophets. Did you know the OT prophesied about Jesus?? Is that odd to you?

Whoosh.................

No. Angels are the ones who blow the trumps.

Any other trump of God in scripture is the voice of God..........except the trump of God in 1 Thes 4? That's blown by an angel?

 

[David in NJ]

I already played the trump card.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

1 Thess 4 and 1 Cor 15 and Matt 24:29-31 and Dan 12:1-3 and Rev 10:7 are all the Same Event

There is only One Second Coming whereby HE DESCENDS with the Saints to Gather His Elect = HE is also coming with His angels as well.

When HE Descends from Heaven, HE is bringing with Him all the spirits of the Saints for the Resurrection.
All those Saints you see in Revelation are only the spirits of those who have died = 5th Seal

 

[ewq1938]

Whoosh.................

Any other trump of God in scripture is the voice of God..........except the trump of God in 1 Thes 4? That's blown by an angel?

All trumpets are blown by angels.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


Rev_10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


Where is this "voice of God" you speak of??

 

[David in NJ]

Where is your faith?
Golden Calf of pre-trib rapture or His Word?

"in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be fulfilled,
just as He proclaimed to His servants the prophets.”

You need to be looking at the OT Prophets to SEE what God has Proclaimed about His Second Coming.......

 

[David in NJ]

You seem to be confused.

1 Thes 4 The Lord Himself comes. The dead in Christ rise first. After that event the alive Church is caught up. = Trump of God = Voice of God = Days of Noah = Before the seals are opened

1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth. Those that rise from the dead and the alive are changed at the same time, in the twinkling of an eye = Last Trump = Daniel 12:1-3 = Revelation 14:14-19 = Matthew 24:29-31 = 6th seal = Days of Lot = Before the wrath of God begins.

Revelation 10 verse 7 only = Revelation 11:15 = 7th trumpet blown by an angel = 7th vial = The wrath of God is over.

You said: "1 Cor 15 He sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth"

1 Cor 15 Says: But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.

There are no resurrections or rapture until His Coming.........Hebrews 9:29
Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many.
To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.