Wrangler
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Is conspiracy fact a collection of improbable choices?
There is no probability when certain duplicity is at play.
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Is conspiracy fact a collection of improbable choices?
There is nothing hidden that shall not be made known.It seems to me a learned experience. That becomes more common over time of having something happen then you change the way you do that thing.
Told a friend who believed that people should fully know right from wrong at least at the age of 25. However told him; it took me until was 30 years old to finally understand and it was also with the help of God being there to guide me in the right direction with his Son the Son of God - Master Jesus the Anointed One.
There is nothing learned if nothing is ever taught (or at least experienced), and there are some that listen to correct and some who do not. So it is very subjectable subject in my best estimation.
Common Sense
^ OP
IF there is known consequence for negative behavior, and the consequence is not carried out...
* Common Sense...negative behavioral consequences are irrelevant.
If government officials oppress the people, and then the government officials say they are the soulution to fix peoples oppression...
* Common Sense... government officials have munchausen by Proxy syndrome.
What is that? LOL
(Oh look another new thing to learn )
I know it by another name... it's three words... something, something, reaction?
Name that word..
LOL
ouchCommon Sense
^ OP
IF there is known consequence for negative behavior, and the consequence is not carried out...
* Common Sense...negative behavioral consequences are irrelevant.
If government officials oppress the people, and then the government officials say they are the soulution to fix peoples oppression...
* Common Sense... government officials have munchausen by Proxy syndrome.
I watch the divide daily.. wheat and tares.~ Ziggy ~
We observed and suffer the effects...
God is steadly observing, and His anger increasing.
It ends when God has had enough and the people choose to come to Him or sink in an evil cesspool of their own choosing.
Glory to God,
Taken
Jesus came to cause division.
When I read the book of Proverbs, it seems to me that the whole structure is based on common sense.
Is common sense and wisdom the same? Some people have it and some don't.
And the fact that some don't, and it's a fact, I've talked with people that haven't got an ounce of common sense..
When I read Proverbs Chapter 1 regarding wisdom crying in the streets for someone to listen..
I see this as "common sense" . That God gives us this tool to help direct us.
Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Pro 1:21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
Pro 1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Pro 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Pro 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Pro 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
Pro 1:32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
Pro 1:33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
Hos 14:9 Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.
Pro 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
Pro 2:7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
Pro 2:8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.
Pro 2:9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.
Pro 2:10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
Pro 2:11 Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
Pro 2:12 To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
Pro 2:13 Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
Common sense definition is - sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/common sense
I think the problem with people not having common sense is two-fold.
1. They don't know the Lord.
2. They can't perceive simple perception of a situation or facts.
The way the information is being projected to people, whether fact or propaganda, has confused many, so that they have no basic foundation of sound and prudent judgement on which to stand.
Which brings this verse into mind:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
just thinking..
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I feel like, when you have found her (wisdom) , then everything falls into place, like common sense.This statement from above is wrong - "When I read the book of Proverbs, it seems to me that the whole structure is based on common sense.
Proverbs is based on hearing the Lord, not leaning on our "Common Sense" / our logic!!
That is explain and seen in pretty much every verse quoted above!
Pro 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
Your understanding and knowledge does not "crieth" or "uttereth her voice in the streets"!!! I am not even a "her". Yet a her are those under authority, and the Holy Spirit (while actually not a her or a him because the is The Angel/Spirit of the Lord) is in the streets (Omni-present) and if we seek to listen for the Holy Spirit we can hear from the Lord via His Holy Spirit. Thus "Wisdom" is a name for the Holy Spirit, and God's Wisdom (Holy Spirit) is not like our wisdom (common sense)!
So while I agree with the following 2 points from above:
1. They don't know the Lord.
2. They can't perceive simple perception of a situation or facts.
That is certainly not "common sense" since though many are called few are chosen. More people are sadly trying to go though the big gate (Religion) instead of actually seeking the voice of the Lord (Wisdom), even though the Lord is just standing there knocking.
Sadly, it is just not common for people to turn to the Lord and listen to Him via His Holy Spirit. People tend to lean on their own understanding. That is what common sense is!
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.
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Profoundly at odds with the evil attempt to eliminate discernment via “Equality.”
I feel like, when you have found her (wisdom) , then everything falls into place, like common sense.
So I hear what your saying as to leaning on one's own understanding without wisdom.
I see it as, how can you not know something once you are given wisdom?
Apparently not everyone is endowed with wisdom, or common sense for that matter.
Some are totally void of anything remotely close to reason.
I'm just looking at the 40,000 foot view over the world. Some people.. kind of reminds me when the Lord is explaining to Jonah why he gave Nineveh a chance to repent.. they didn't know their left hand from their right.
Which is also interesting because Nineveh was a city built by Asshur, which was the son of Nimrod, which was the son of Cush, which was the son of Ham, which was the son of Noah.
How is it that Nineveh had sinned seeing they were not Israel, they were Gentiles.
And yet God told them to repent. Repent of what? They didn't have the law, or did they?
Jon 3:1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
Jon 3:2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
Jon 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
Jon 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
Jon 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
I wish Jonah went into a bit more detail as to what the Lord told Jonah to preach throughout a city 3 days journey.
All it says that Jonah said is, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
I wish someone stand on the stairs of the Capital and say that...
I have a feeling it wouldn't have the same effect.
People been preaching a long time to repent..
God is patient..
Amen
Thank You
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You’ve given stuff to think about Karl. Silent internal pride sabotages wisdom.Maybe I am coming across a bit hard on this, but too often I see where Christians make an assumption that because they are Christians that now whatever they do must be from the Holy Spirit! The fact is that we need to actually seek Him and listen to what He speaks to us!
For example above we read "I feel like, when you have found her (wisdom) , then everything falls into place, like common sense." - That seems to imply that once a person finds the Lord and His Holy Spirit (Wisdom) that now everything they do now just falls into place - whether they are actually seek their Lord and listening to Him of not!
Yet look at the verses quoted - is that how the writer of the Scriptures thought?
Jon 3:1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
In the above verse we read that the Lord came to Jonah and Jonah hear from the Lord!! That is not just things falling into place, that is instructions from the Lord being heard by Jonah!!
In fact in the book of Jonah we read about a man (Jonah) who indeed knew the Lord and could hear from Him, but Jonah with his "common sense" thought he could just take a ship the opposite way to get away from God so as to not listen to the wisdom of God. Jonah's "Common Sense" didn't work too well for him did it? Jonah get tossed out of a ship, has to be picked up by a large fish (which doesn't sound like much fun to me) and had to go back to God's wisdom instead of his own "common sense"/understanding!
We need to actually listen to the Lord (Wisdom) and do what He says!!
In fact Jonah, even when he does do what the Lord asks, and amazingly the whole city repents, by his understanding thinks this a not such a great thing and sits under a plant and pouts. Not a lot of sense in that - so knowing the Lord does not necessarily mean a person is going to make great and wise decisions!! It certainly does not me that "things just falling into place" The Lord might make sure what He needs to happen, but unless being thrown over board so that you fall into the mouth of a fish is what you mean by "falling into place", I don't think you have it right.
What I see from knowing the Lord is that things work out best if I seek the Lord and do what He askes. But even then things to go as I think they should - even if best. Just like Jonah didn't think things should have worked out like they should have even if it was right that the city repented.
You’ve given stuff to think about Karl. Silent internal pride sabotages wisdom.