Complete In Spirit

[bbyrd009]

It seems to have made you bitter rather than better.

oh c'mon, i seem bitter to you? imo bitter comes with diff fruit, but i am not here to tell you what seems, so all i can say is my apologies if you tasted some bitter, Helen

 

[bbyrd009]

I used to be proud of my well-tuned BS meter, for the first half of my life......

When i turned forty, i realized with great shock and distress that my BS meter was just a clever, snarky manner of living without faith......

Now for the dismantling....

that's what we're here for, after all right. if i am in error i would rather know now

 

[bbyrd009]

I guess this is what I mean.

 

[Helen]

ha the prob is that is not the point at all; the perspective trap is, and i'm not sure how i might point it out any better. You are indicating that you are not in the position of Observer in the way you interpret the v? Something like that. It's not a big deal, ok, but honest it is not at all that i do not believe etc etc., it is that it is God telling us this, as you say, and we tend to hear what we want.

"...even the elect, if that were possible," alright. I'm strictly trying to cause a perspective shift, away from a one-dimensional perspective there

Okay, got it....good to get your clarification. I can see that now , when say it like that. .