Defending Homosexuality

[bbyrd009]

So I guess "homospiritual" has already been appropriated, thought I made it up lol, anyway I don't mean that like everyone else does

 

[bbyrd009]

You admit he needs to be loved, just like each of us. You know that Jesus told us to love him. Yet, you still say you will continue to refuse to love him?

I'll answer for him, since he will generally never address a post like that
"Yes, and if you aren't looking I might even shoot him"

 

[bbyrd009]

See I could say this is not true ...since I’d heard countless times what you say about Romans and the condemnation of homosexuals way before I’d ever heard of how deep His mercy goes.

A few thoughts. You seem to be saying (and maybe I’ve misunderstood) that an individual is homosexual because of their own rejection of God. That it is singular and pin-pointing one. But Romans seems to not be pointing at one individual but as a whole that they love the flesh and worship it so Much that God gives them over to their vile affections and lust of the flesh. Yes, homosexuality but seeing today that is by far all. Murder. Adultery. Greed. Addictions of all kinds of feeding on flesh. “I’ll fill my lust of the flesh and get more of it.” Worshipping it. Loving it. Like in the wilderness God saying you want the flesh then I’ll give it to you to eat until you are sick of it. And isn’t that the point of what is happening now...our dire need for God and a turning from what doesn’t ever satisfy? Consider how sexual perversions are traveled in. Same as any addiction it starts small and when that isn’t enough to satisfy any longer it goes to the next stimulation and when that is not enough onto the next stimulation and it continues until porn turns into living it out rather than watching it and pills turn into shooting up herione.

Came across this channel called “Vice” which is becoming more popular. Not only is homosexuality and dressing as the opposite sex celebrated but also drug addictions, adultery, nudity, porn anything crude and a bondage you could imagine. It is not one individual but the world. Don’t misunderstand Stranger I hate it as much as you and don’t endorse any of it.

Considering the topic of Homosexuality and someone continuing in it...I’ve had to ask the same of pedophiles. Does the same apply to them where they are welcome in to the body of Christ and even if they continue to prey on young children they are supported because it is an illness they can’t overcome? Could you sit next to them knowing the sexual attraction toward children still continues?

The only reason I responded to your post in the first place was not to support or endorse... let us just love all...but because I know how some sins God has walked me free from...yet in the flesh I still have vices of my own that I wouldn’t endorse or support or wish on anyone. My understanding is all sin is of the same weight to God. To say the things I hate that I do...are far less important or ugly than the topic makes an hypocrite which God speaks of probably more often than homosexual. To say adultery is accepted within the body of Christ and others are not makes an hypocrite. So I don’t know the answer. In constant need of His grace and mercy.

nice imo, there is often quite a big difference in "homosexual" and "hedonist" or "bed kitten" which is likely the best tranny anyway

 

[bbyrd009]

Did you see what Willie posted earlier on eternity, my brain is still hurting?

Ah, could you quote it? Ty

 

[Stranger]

See I could say this is not true ...since I’d heard countless times what you say about Romans and the condemnation of homosexuals way before I’d ever heard of how deep His mercy goes.

A few thoughts. You seem to be saying (and maybe I’ve misunderstood) that an individual is homosexual because of their own rejection of God. That it is singular and pin-pointing one. But Romans seems to not be pointing at one individual but as a whole that they love the flesh and worship it so Much that God gives them over to their vile affections and lust of the flesh. Yes, homosexuality but seeing today that is by far all. Murder. Adultery. Greed. Addictions of all kinds of feeding on flesh. “I’ll fill my lust of the flesh and get more of it.” Worshipping it. Loving it. Like in the wilderness God saying you want the flesh then I’ll give it to you to eat until you are sick of it. And isn’t that the point of what is happening now...our dire need for God and a turning from what doesn’t ever satisfy? Consider how sexual perversions are traveled in. Same as any addiction it starts small and when that isn’t enough to satisfy any longer it goes to the next stimulation and when that is not enough onto the next stimulation and it continues until porn turns into living it out rather than watching it and pills turn into shooting up herione.

Came across this channel called “Vice” which is becoming more popular. Not only is homosexuality and dressing as the opposite sex celebrated but also drug addictions, adultery, nudity, porn anything crude and a bondage you could imagine. It is not one individual but the world. Don’t misunderstand Stranger I hate it as much as you and don’t endorse any of it.

Considering the topic of Homosexuality and someone continuing in it...I’ve had to ask the same of pedophiles. Does the same apply to them where they are welcome in to the body of Christ and even if they continue to prey on young children they are supported because it is an illness they can’t overcome? Could you sit next to them knowing the sexual attraction toward children still continues?

The only reason I responded to your post in the first place was not to support or endorse... let us just love all...but because I know how some sins God has walked me free from...yet in the flesh I still have vices of my own that I wouldn’t endorse or support or wish on anyone. My understanding is all sin is of the same weight to God. To say the things I hate that I do...are far less important or ugly than the topic makes an hypocrite which God speaks of probably more often than homosexual. To say adultery is accepted within the body of Christ and others are not makes an hypocrite. So I don’t know the answer. In constant need of His grace and mercy.

No, I don't 'seem' to be saying anything. I am saying very clearly what I am saying. And what I am saying is what the Word of God is saying in the book of Romans.

You can ask about pedophiles, you can ask about murderers, you can ask about adulterers all you like. Your asking and pondering these things, doesn't do away with the book of Romans. You can rejoice in the mercy and love of God. That too, doesn't do away with the book of Romans. For some reason you think you can ignore the judgments of God due to the mercy of God.

I do not ignore the mercy and love of God. But Scripture, (Romans), is clear that homosexuality is a judgement upon a people who have spurned that mercy and love of God and thrown it back in the Saviours face. But you will ignore God and say, you still must love the homosexual in all his sin and rejection of God.

And of course it looks good before man. I just love everybody. You hate God, but man do I love you. It is all about love. I don't care if God hates you...I love you. Oh yes, my love is going to cure you from everything etc. etc. etc. What a misdirected and perverted love.

The answer is believe what the Book says contrary to what you want to feel.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

You admit he needs to be loved, just like each of us. You know that Jesus told us to love him. Yet, you still say you will continue to refuse to love him?

The post wasn't to you and I was being sarcastic. If you need to be loved by the homosexual then go to him. I have no desire to allow the homosexual into any church I attend. And if that is not understood and agreed by the church, then I will not attend.

I view homosexuality as God does in (Rom. 1:26-27). Do you?

Stranger

 

[Willie T]

We are not talking about "homosexuality"; we are talking about individual homosexuals. Just as Jesus did not hate the sinners He associated with, but hated the sin they were caught in.

 

[Stranger]

We are not talking about "homosexuality"; we are talking about individual homosexuals. Just as Jesus did not hate the sinners He associated with, but hated the sin they were caught in.

And He never associated with homosexuals...did He?

Stranger

 

[Willie T]

And He never associated with homosexuals...did He?

Stranger

The Bible says He was tempted in EVERY way..... Who gave you the authority to say that meant only certain temptations?

 

[Stranger]

The Bible says He was tempted in EVERY way..... Who gave you the authority to say that meant only certain temptations?

In other words, Jesus Christ never associated with homosexuals.

Stranger

 

[Willie T]

In other words, Jesus Christ never associated with homosexuals.

Stranger

Sorry, I can't rewrite the Bible the way you seem to like to do.

 

[Stranger]

Sorry, I can't rewrite the Bible the way you seem to like to do.

I don't have to rewrite it. Jesus Christ never associated with homosexuals.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

The Bible says He was tempted in EVERY way..... Who gave you the authority to say that meant only certain temptations?

And this is a blasphemous statement. Jesus Christ was never tempted toward any homosexuality. Homosexuality is not a temptation. It is a judgement of God upon a people for their rejection of God. An impossibility with Christ.

Stranger

 

[Waiting on him]

I'll answer for him, since he will generally never address a post like that
"Yes, and if you aren't looking I might even shoot him"

Maybe call down fire

 

[Marymog]

I did tell you. See post # (147).

If one wants to be a homosexual and attend church, he can go to your church. Not mine. Give him a hug mary. He needs to be loved.

Stranger

You crack me up.....

Just the guy's? What about the girls? ;)

 

[Stranger]

You crack me up.....

Just the guy's? What about the girls? ;)

You invited them. It's you church, not mine.

Stranger

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I remember someone being turned into a pillar of salt by God for turning back looking back at what they loved about Sodom.

Nowadays we have another world that is bowing down to that like Sodom of old and it will be destroyed just the same and all within will go to Hell.
Anyone who supports Sodomites in any shape or form is not worthy of being a true Christian at all.
No wonder that he RCC and so many Protestant Churches have got such child molester problems and it's because they truly worship Moloch.

 

[Willie T]

I remember someone being turned into a pillar of salt by God for turning back looking back at what they loved about Sodom.

Nowadays we have another world that is bowing down to that like Sodom of old and it will be destroyed just the same and all within will go to Hell.
Anyone who supports Sodomites in any shape or form is not worthy of being a true Christian at all.
No wonder that he RCC and so many Protestant Churches have got such child molester problems and it's because they truly worship Moloch.

This is really stretching to make the Bible say what you want it to say. Lot's wife was not at all a homosexual.

 

[Waiting on him]

This is really stretching to make the Bible say what you want it to say. Lot's wife was not at all a homosexual.

Gods bringing down everything that exhaults it’s self above that cross, and casting it into the fire. When there’s no more wood there will be no more fire to kindle.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

This is really stretching to make the Bible say what you want it to say. Lot's wife was not at all a homosexual.

No one said she was at all but the fact is that she looked back, one must not look back on such depravity or you are like Lot.
God destroyed the Sinful godless people who took part in such.
All such society's fail when people idolise homosexuals and any such depravity, look at all the Churches they do not represent Jesus Christ any more and the proof is in the pudding the RCC is full of such deviates from the top down as are all the rest that promote such.
No Homosexual can enter the Kingdom of God as they can not exist within such as the Bible points out, not even the water Baptised are in the Kingdom of God, you must be Truly Born Again to be in the Kingdom of God. fact is that such people abide in Jesus Christ and understand the distinction.
Sure we do understand Sin but we do not wallow in it.
Show me where Jesus backed up any one in their Sin or promoted it.
Babylon - she has made all nations drunk of the wine of wrath of her fornication.
Rom 3:28 Reprobate mind.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the Law through faith ? God forbid ! yea we establish the Law. and Mat 5:17-18
Mat 5:19-20 to enter into Heaven you must ?
Mat 4:10 so who do you serve ?

You know that Christians are not serving the gods of Islam, we do not kill homosexuals or promote such filth at all and never have promoted such, until nowadays because Satan has entered into the Churches and the Churches have rejected Jesus Christ in fact.
All the Churches have been undermined nowadays and one can see it in their works.
Christians are to give the Sinner hope, but they have to pick it up or they are lost.
Jesus never did abide in the Sinner, but the Sinner can come and abide in Him through true repentance of such sin, but never willingly back up his Sin in anyway.