at the resurrection when Jesus returns.
Thanks. When do we leave Heaven to live in the new Earth, please?
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at the resurrection when Jesus returns.
There are NO Rewards in heaven but life everlasting!
Luke 18:28-30 reads:
28 Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee.
29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake,
30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
PROOF NO REWARDS
Luke 17:10
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
Revelation 22:12
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [the wages of sin is death] is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
My two cents worth.
To God Be The Glory
after the millenniumThanks. When do we leave Heaven to live in the new Earth, please?
Thanks. I didn’t mean to imply that Bob Barker is going to greet us when we arrive and hand out new cars, televisions, and fabulous vacations.
There are no other rewards in heaven except Eternal Life which is the ultimate and far greater gift/reward man will ever receive!
So then what did Jesus mean when he said that we should build our treasure in Heaven?
So then what did Jesus mean when he said that we should build our treasure in Heaven?
A rock of offence.8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
A rock of offence.
That's a hard one. Most people want to roll out the red carpet and do everything in their, I say THEIR power to save everyone.
To be a rock of offence. Defending the Truth. Willing to be critized and still stand your ground.
Unswerving in ones faith and beliefs regardless of the opposition.
A stone of stumbling.
We have this new religion called "Woke" culture.
We need to have people stumbling over this and set the course back on the right track.
Debate it, demand answers to their Critical Race Theory, Challenge them, Refute them.
Ye also as lively stones...
We are the rocks in David's sling.
The world is Goliath.
I know, I know.. live peaceably among all men.
I try to fall in that catagory everyday.
But there comes a time when we have to stand for what is right, and get on our knees and PRAY.
A stone of stumbling and a rock of offence.
Sometimes we are the weapons in God's tool chest.
As well as the healers.
I never really looked at that verse before.
When communism takes over America and the world,
the days for standing will be over.
And you will be made to kneel to China.
Upon this rock...
Was Peter a rock of offence and a stone of stumbling to the religious establishment of his day?
How about Paul and John.
Even the women Priscilla , Phoebe, Lydia, Drusilla, Bernice..
just an observation.
Hugs
It seems there are many believers that, for lack of a better way to put it? Take this verse too selfishly when it comes to protecting and defending anything, or anyone, other then their family.
Matthew 26:52
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
To the point where, and this is becoming more and more evident, that "Caesar" (aka the government), has, and hopefully, not irretrievably, pounded a wedge between church/God and state! To the point, mind ya, where they are now oppressing and bully upon, all "law abiding believers", laws that supersede God, and His law!
This didn't happen overnight!
The Church doesn't need revival!
It needs a rubber meeting the road blood and guts "grass root" CRUSADE!
And, I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way either!
Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and HE THAT HATH NO SWORD, let him sell his garment, and BUY ONE.
A "coward" dies a THOUSAND deaths! A noble man? BUT ONE!
Of course "YOU'RE" not at war with "THEM!"
"THEY'RE" at WAR with "YOU!"
"I'm at war with "THEM!"
Luke 12:
51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?
57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
Ziggy, why do you think it is that there is much talk about peace in Christianity yet they promote a violent God....even one who burns folk forever?And it has nothing to do with flesh and blood. This isn't a physical war, it's demonic.
We are in a battle over our souls. Our thinking, our feelings.
They use heavy persuasion tactics and lies to manipulate us.
They use fear.
We stand with TOUGH LOVE
They can only kill the body if you resist.
They can steal your soul if you don't.
And I'm not talking physical resistance.
Hold on to what you know is true.
Don't believe the crap their putting on your plate.
The color of your skin is irrelevant with God.
It's what's in your heart that matters.
We are not hateful, yet they will try to make us hate.
We are not violent, yet they promote violence.
We are peacekeepers, they provoke you to break your peace.
You don't need to carry a gun, you need to carry the Word of God
You don't need to hide, you need to STAND on the ROCK.
Fighting in this sense is not violence.
It is standing strong and not being bullied into believing things that are false.
If we don't "FIGHT" , Fight for Faith, for Love, for Humanity..
then why are we here?
Matthew 25 (Parable of the Talents) clearly teaches that the rewards are not the same, and Paul teaches the Corinthians that "each man's work will be tested" 1 Corinthians 3:13 and that their rewards will be determined by the quality of their works and whether they withstand the "test of fire" at the judgment or not--beyond this, Romans 2:6-16 also says eternal life is repaid according to our deeds along with Galatians 6:6-10 which is in keeping with the same Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25:26.Or does their reward(s) vary based on how close they are to Jesus?
I'm going to take a guess that our reward varies upon first reaching Heaven but that, over time, we can all attain the same level of glory.
Let me make an analogy using the game Candy Land. In Candy Land, everyone starts at the beginning and, eventually, reaches the end of the trail and is declared the winner. Well, my guess is that, when we die, we go into Heaven and most start at or near the beginning. However, some Christians, who have exemplified what it means to walk in the footsteps of Christ, start further along the path of becoming one with God. The closer we get to God, the more we feel his love and glory, which is its own reward.
Any thoughts?
Matthew 25 (Parable of the Talents) clearly teaches that the rewards are not the same, and Paul teaches the Corinthians that "each man's work will be tested" 1 Corinthians 3:13 and that their rewards will be determined by the quality of their works and whether they withstand the "test of fire" at the judgment or not--beyond this, Romans 2:6-16 also says eternal life is repaid according to our deeds along with Galatians 6:6-10 which is in keeping with the same Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25:26.
I never said I understood how it worked out, I simply pointed to what Scripture said about whether rewards were the same.Thanks.
Essentially, some have it better than others in Heaven, right? In other words, some neighborhoods are better than others in Heaven.
Do you believe that average souls can eventually live in the same neighborhood as God?
I believe the error is in people's understandings and translations.Ziggy, why do you think it is that there is much talk about peace in Christianity yet they promote a violent God....even one who burns folk forever?
And it has nothing to do with flesh and blood. This isn't a physical war, it's demonic.
We are in a battle over our souls. Our thinking, our feelings.
They use heavy persuasion tactics and lies to manipulate us.
They use fear.
We stand with TOUGH LOVE
They can only kill the body if you resist.
They can steal your soul if you don't.
And I'm not talking physical resistance.
Hold on to what you know is true.
Don't believe the crap their putting on your plate.
The color of your skin is irrelevant with God.
It's what's in your heart that matters.
We are not hateful, yet they will try to make us hate.
We are not violent, yet they promote violence.
We are peacekeepers, they provoke you to break your peace.
You don't need to carry a gun, you need to carry the Word of God
You don't need to hide, you need to STAND on the ROCK.
Fighting in this sense is not violence.
It is standing strong and not being bullied into believing things that are false.
If we don't "FIGHT" , Fight for Faith, for Love, for Humanity..
then why are we here?
Rewards are given according to your works (good deeds). Obviously Mother Teresa and Billy Graham will get more than we do. Those who made their lives a living sacrifice, unselfish, loving others even more than themselves get more. My wife will get more than I. She is a giver, a servant. I am not as generous, don't love others AS I love myself - its difficult. Try loving your enemies, like a guy who just raped and murdered your daughter.Or does their reward(s) vary based on how close they are to Jesus?
I'm going to take a guess that our reward varies upon first reaching Heaven but that, over time, we can all attain the same level of glory.
Let me make an analogy using the game Candy Land. In Candy Land, everyone starts at the beginning and, eventually, reaches the end of the trail and is declared the winner. Well, my guess is that, when we die, we go into Heaven and most start at or near the beginning. However, some Christians, who have exemplified what it means to walk in the footsteps of Christ, start further along the path of becoming one with God. The closer we get to God, the more we feel his love and glory, which is its own reward.
Any thoughts?
Sorry, I sort of went off on a tangent.